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Post#21 » by GYBE » Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:05 am

One thing Cubs fans should brace themselves for is the possibility Selig does not allow us to spend that type of money with an uncertain ownership situation.

I agree A-Rod dramatically raises the value of the franchise and the Tribune would love to have him before they sell, but remember that Selig vetoed the Jones trade because we were taking on more salary. Buster Olney mentioned this was a real likely possibility in his blog.

It would suck, really, really suck. But I wouldn't put it past Selig to screw the Cubs under the guise of MLB protecting the future owners.

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Post#22 » by Posey H8er » Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:33 am

^ That would be my major concern too. Cubs fans would be really pissed if that were the case, and also with him possibly getting in the way of Cuban's interest in buying the Cubs. On that note, I doubt Cuban will win that offer unfortunately.

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Post#23 » by IbreakNeckZ101 » Tue Oct 30, 2007 1:58 am

2poor wrote:I love how he acts like he's the one cutting the checks.

You do realize that there is no salary cap right? And that the Cubs are one of the most profitable organizations? Right? Enjoy the perks of being the fan of a team with deep pockets.

Your reasoning sucks too and I've called you on it before, but whenever presented with stats and other factors you just blow them off. How about you do some research maybe? Does Jeter suck too now because his postseason was worse than A-Rod's? Do you realize that A-Rod put up sick postseason numbers in Seattle? Under none other than Lou Piniella? Does this do anything for you?



Your making yourself look like hypocrite calling me out like this. All did was state my opinion about the whole A-rod situation. If you don't like my reasoning why read it??? I could post all the stats and what not, but apparently i didn't have time to do it.
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Post#24 » by SportsWorld » Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:40 am

Is money really an issue? The Chicago White Sox had a bigger payroll than us in 2007 with a $109,290,167 payroll while we only had a $99,936,999. In fact, the Seattle Mariners had a bigger payroll than us last year.

I don't just want a World Series for myself, I want a World Series for all those long-suffering Cub fans that are in their 70's and 80's now. My grandfather has been a Cub fan since the 1930's and he is in his mid 70's now and I want a Cub World Series for him before he passes. Also, I want a World Series for Ron Santo who is the #1 Cub fan. I have at least 60 more years to witness a World Series.
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Post#25 » by Rodanlee » Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:54 am

GYBE wrote:Calm down. It's just his opinion and I don't think break is being obnoxious. I know you guys have argued a lot, but there's no need to insult him after every post.

There is some validity to the train of thought that we shouldn't go after A-Rod. First off, though there's no salary cap, every team does have a budget. Companies don't randomly add $30+ million long-term contracts if the budget doesn't allow it. And I while I don't think our lineup is good enough to guarentee the playoffs, it is good enough to keep us compeititive for them for a long time without him.

Having said that, I still think we need to be in on the bidding. Adding A-Rod absolutely would guarentee us the division for the next few years. By then, Milwaukee's young guns will be out of arbitration and it's unlikely they'll be able to keep them all and honestly, the rest of the divisions long-term prospects are pretty dim. Adding A-Rod could start us on a dynasty of sorts in terms of the NL Central. And I still believe that the playoffs are largely luck and we should plan to make them, not build a team exclusively for playoff victories. Moves for the playoffs are deadline deals to get a couple last pieces.

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couldn't agree w/ you more.... and ibreakneckz.... if you had the chance to get the greatest player of this generation and possibly when he's done the GOAT, why wouldn't u take it?
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Post#26 » by Rodanlee » Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:57 am

SportsWorld wrote:Is money really an issue? The Chicago White Sox had a bigger payroll than us in 2007 with a $109,290,167 payroll while we only had a $99,936,999. In fact, the Seattle Mariners had a bigger payroll than us last year.

I don't just want a World Series for myself, I want a World Series for all those long-suffering Cub fans that are in their 70's and 80's now. My grandfather has been a Cub fan since the 1930's and he is in his mid 70's now and I want a Cub World Series for him before he passes. Also, I want a World Series for Ron Santo who is the #1 Cub fan. I have at least 60 more years to witness a World Series.


I personally hope that they go out and get AROD and put him at SS, and w/ the salary, all of the contracts/salaries are backloaded so that hendry could do a little more w/ the 2007 team.... its gonna steadily increase in the next few years... but then again, by getting arod, like 2poor said, it will greatly increase revenues in other areas due to the HR chase, possible WS appearance and victory :pray: , etc...
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Post#27 » by SportsWorld » Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:02 am

Besides Boston, I really don't see any other MLB team forking out big bucks to snag A-Rod. In fact, Boston might not even bid on A-Rod since they have Mike Lowell. A-Rod wants to win a World Series so I don't see him going to San Francisco. The Angels have said in the past they don't want him. The Dodgers might be a possibility for A-Rod since they are about to hire Torre. I don't see the White Sox going after A-Rod since they don't really like to spend a lot of money on one player. I truthfully think the reason A-Rod opted out was to come to the Cubs and play under Lou Piniella.
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Post#28 » by Angry Jimmy » Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:04 am

2poor wrote:We could be talking about Jesus Christ and you'd still find a reason to complain about him coming to Chicago.

We get it. You complain. Whee.


Ahh, Jesus, I like him very much... but he no help with curve ball.
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Post#29 » by GYBE » Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:46 pm

One team that would shell out the big bucks is the Giants. They're unloading Barry's contract and a few other vets, their owner will spend anything to win and they see themselves as a contendor with A-Rod because of their pitching. They also might like A-Rod passing Bonds in a Giants uniform for a "true" HR champ without the controversy.

He'd have absolutely no protection in that lineup though, at least as the current roster stands. He'd have like, Ray Durham and Bengie Molina hitting 3rd/5th. Why would you ever pitch to him?

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Post#30 » by VinnyTheMick » Tue Oct 30, 2007 3:53 pm

SportsWorld wrote: The Dodgers might be a possibility for A-Rod since they are about to hire Torre.


Arod isn't a big Torre fan.
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Post#31 » by straightguji » Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:00 am

SportsWorld wrote:Besides Boston, I really don't see any other MLB team forking out big bucks to snag A-Rod. In fact, Boston might not even bid on A-Rod since they have Mike Lowell. A-Rod wants to win a World Series so I don't see him going to San Francisco. The Angels have said in the past they don't want him. The Dodgers might be a possibility for A-Rod since they are about to hire Torre. I don't see the White Sox going after A-Rod since they don't really like to spend a lot of money on one player. I truthfully think the reason A-Rod opted out was to come to the Cubs and play under Lou Piniella.


A-Rod has beef with Torre. So I don't think the Dodgers are a frontrunner for his services anymore.
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Post#32 » by SportsWorld » Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:01 am

GYBE wrote:One team that would shell out the big bucks is the Giants. They're unloading Barry's contract and a few other vets, their owner will spend anything to win and they see themselves as a contendor with A-Rod because of their pitching. They also might like A-Rod passing Bonds in a Giants uniform for a "true" HR champ without the controversy.

He'd have absolutely no protection in that lineup though, at least as the current roster stands. He'd have like, Ray Durham and Bengie Molina hitting 3rd/5th. Why would you ever pitch to him?

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I don't see A-Rod going to San Francisco because he wants to win. I can see him going to the Mets, Angels, Cubs, or Red Sox.
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Post#33 » by straightguji » Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:06 am

Supposedly David Wright said he'd move to 2B for A-Rod if he were to come to the Mets.
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Post#34 » by The Sheik » Wed Oct 31, 2007 4:02 am

straightguji wrote:Supposedly David Wright said he'd move to 2B for A-Rod if he were to come to the Mets.


He refuted that in the paper today. Said nobody talked to him about it and that he never said that.
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Post#35 » by hermes » Fri Nov 2, 2007 10:16 pm

how do you think arod would handle the move to short if he came here, or would he demand to play third


and wouldn't arod want to play for lou again
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Post#36 » by SportsWorld » Fri Nov 2, 2007 11:21 pm

hermes wrote:how do you think arod would handle the move to short if he came here, or would he demand to play third


and wouldn't arod want to play for lou again

Yes A-Rod said last season he would like to play for Lou
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Post#37 » by VinnyTheMick » Sat Nov 3, 2007 4:22 pm

Content with third baseman Aramis Ramirez -- and not in the mood for setting more offseason spending records -- the Cubs don't expect to be a player in the A-Rod sweepstakes.

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Post#38 » by Howling Mad » Sat Nov 3, 2007 6:30 pm

I could see A-Rod waiting until the sale of the Cubs is official, then its a whole different ballgame.
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Post#39 » by Ruben Douglas » Wed Nov 14, 2007 10:32 pm

There is a rumor floating around that ARod has agreed to terms with the Yankees. I have no link, just a rumor I heard on the XM radio. Don't quote me but I thought I might as well post it.

If it's true, sucks for the Yankees. And why would ARod have even bothered to opt out, that's $21 million extra the Yanks add to the payroll. Maybe the owner down in Texas paid him off.
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Post#40 » by Howling Mad » Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:01 am

Ok so RealGM baseball has the A-Rod story over Barry Bonds being indicted. Kinda wierd. I'd think Barry news is bigger than A-Rod news. go figure.

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