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Re: Celtic Rebounding thru 10 Games 

Post#21 » by ConstableGeneva » Wed Nov 15, 2023 2:45 pm

BTW, Celtics had known rebounders Enes Freedom in 2020 and Tristan Thompson in 2021. Not too thrilled for a reunion.
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Re: Celtic Rebounding thru 10 Games 

Post#22 » by ConstableGeneva » Wed Nov 15, 2023 3:37 pm

Rebounders I wouldn't mind having: Jokic, Bam, Giannis, Embiid, Davis, Looney
Rebounders I would... let's just not please: Dwight, Whiteside, Boogie, Enes, Vucevic, it's a long list.
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Re: Celtic Rebounding thru 10 Games 

Post#23 » by Fierce1 » Wed Nov 15, 2023 3:43 pm

As long as the Celts outrebound their opponents more often than not, who cares who gets the rebounds.

What's important is the Cs don't give opposing teams 2nd chances by not getting defensive rebounds.

If the Cs can limit opposing teams to one and done for the majority of the game, it's going to be a Celtic win on most nights.
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Re: Celtic Rebounding thru 10 Games 

Post#24 » by threrf23 » Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:23 pm

Fierce1 wrote:As long as the Celts outrebound their opponents more often than not, who cares who gets the rebounds.


Maybe not a big deal, but ideally, you want to be able to rebound well without having to alter your game plan to do so.
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Re: Celtic Rebounding thru 10 Games 

Post#25 » by Fierce1 » Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:29 pm

threrf23 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:As long as the Celts outrebound their opponents more often than not, who cares who gets the rebounds.


Maybe not a big deal, but ideally, you want to be able to rebound well without having to alter your game plan to do so.

I think it's part of their scheme.

The constant switching sometimes puts the bigs out of position for a rebound.

Enes Kanter always got lots of rebounds because he refuses to leave the paint.

The Celtic scheme needs their bigs to guard all the way to the 3pt line.
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Re: Celtic Rebounding thru 10 Games 

Post#26 » by shackles10 » Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:39 pm

threrf23 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:As long as the Celts outrebound their opponents more often than not, who cares who gets the rebounds.


Maybe not a big deal, but ideally, you want to be able to rebound well without having to alter your game plan to do so.


True, but the flip side being you don't want to have to alter your game plan just to fit a "rebounder" into it either. The list of guys known as "rebounders" usually don't or can't switch and don't or can't guard on the perimeter.
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Re: Celtic Rebounding thru 10 Games 

Post#27 » by Fierce1 » Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:53 pm

shackles10 wrote:
threrf23 wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:As long as the Celts outrebound their opponents more often than not, who cares who gets the rebounds.


Maybe not a big deal, but ideally, you want to be able to rebound well without having to alter your game plan to do so.


True, but the flip side being you don't want to have to alter your game plan just to fit a "rebounder" into it either. The list of guys known as "rebounders" usually don't or can't switch and don't or can't guard on the perimeter.

That's true.

Enes Kanter is the perfect example.
The guy gets lots of rebounds, but his team gets killed because he won't guard on the perimeter.
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Re: Celtic Rebounding thru 10 Games 

Post#28 » by shackles10 » Wed Nov 15, 2023 4:55 pm

Fierce1 wrote:
shackles10 wrote:
threrf23 wrote:
Maybe not a big deal, but ideally, you want to be able to rebound well without having to alter your game plan to do so.


True, but the flip side being you don't want to have to alter your game plan just to fit a "rebounder" into it either. The list of guys known as "rebounders" usually don't or can't switch and don't or can't guard on the perimeter.

That's true.

Enes Kanter is the perfect example.
The guy gets lots of rebounds, but his team gets killed because he won't guard on the perimeter.


If we could roster 20 guys and the last 5-7 guys were willing to play for free then sure have a rebounder for matchups when you need it, but I like having versatile guys like we do that are highly skilled and willing to be something for this team they maybe haven't been on other teams. Jrue and Zinger perfect examples of that. When we need boards they get them, but they also can do so much more that a specialist can't.
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Re: Celtic Rebounding thru 10 Games 

Post#29 » by Jammer » Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:33 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:Having a dominant individual rebounder doesn't guarantee having a great rebounding team.

Top 5 individual rebounders (per REB%, min 5 games, min 30 mpg) and their team's rebounding rank:
1. Jokic - 12th
2. Ayton - 18th
3. Gobert - 13th
4. Sabonis - 17th
5. Embiid - 3rd

Against the Cs, we're going to pull those guys away from the paint anyway. Celtics are 4th as a team with Tatum currently 15th (Porzingis 40th) on the list above.

And whichever name we can come up with who's a "dominant rebounder" (Drummond? Boogie? Dwight? Whiteside?) has to be good at the other things too so they can see the floor. Otherwise, it would be plugging a small hole to create a bigger one.


I was not worried about Philadelphia when Harden was there.

Since they Exchanged Harden for Batum and Covington, with Maxey and Harris in contract seasons, and Embiid still one of the 2 Best Players in the NBA (the other being Jokic), they are now more dangerous defensively and on the boards. Plus, Batum at 36.5% Career from 3 stretches the floor for Embiid and Maxey to operate. And Covington, despite his shooting troubles this season, is still a career (10 Year) 36.1% 3 Point Shooter so he will also stretch the floor and make it easier for Embiid and Maxey to operate.
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Re: Celtic Rebounding thru 10 Games 

Post#30 » by Fencer reregistered » Wed Nov 15, 2023 11:07 pm

KillahGhostface wrote:An alternative perspective:

The Celtics have actually been a really good defensive rebounding team for awhile now, and because the team is so big, offensive rebounding will be decent too.


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Re: Celtic Rebounding thru 10 Games 

Post#31 » by sam_I_am » Thu Nov 16, 2023 10:36 pm

Boston is the top rebounding team in the NBA.
"I think the criticism's stupid," Stevens said. "So I don't care. I'm with Jaylen (Brown) on that. Those two had achieved more than most 25 and 26 year olds ever had. I'd rather be in the mix and have my guts ripped out than suck."

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