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Post#661 » by M2J » Wed Nov 15, 2023 6:49 pm

76ciology wrote:Trade for Lavine depends on how much is our FO’s belief on Maxey. That’s how’d I look at it.

You dont get to be called “The Franchise” if you are going to be the third option. Imagine Kyle Kuzma being called “The Franchise” in that 2020 Lakers squad.



I would not consider The Franchise a 3rd option in that scenario. Zach would clearly be. Maxey is the primary ball handler. Whether he's racking up assists or points. He's the guy.

People say this or they about a trade for Lavine or Pascal, but you have to project out. Oubre may not even be here next year. Waiting until free agency really reduces your options. Trading for a guy allows you to use Tobias bird rights, or Melton's to maintain depth. You can't get KOs rights regardless. So the idea that you have enough offense is a false considering you have a 3-4 option at a minimum deal. Better to take advantage of this season when you have him at that price or at all.
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Post#662 » by Black Mage » Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:51 pm

One thing to keep in mind is how money added to the payroll this year isn't penalized/limited as much as it would be next year. I read an article where Morey brought this up, but I can't find it now. Anyone know how it plays out?
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Post#663 » by Negrodamus » Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:17 pm

I know it'll be a non-starter for many here, and for good reason, but I wonder if Collin Sexton is on the table? Seems they have slowly been moving towards giving Keyonte George the minutes, which makes sense. Collin as a second unit guy gives us scoring and another ball handler on the roster. The problems with Sexton is he's 6'1, not a pure distributing PG, has 3 years left on his deal.

A trade for him and Kyle Anderson (also fell out of the rotation a bit) and call it a day would at least give us depth and two viable ball handlers to be on the court at any time.
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Post#664 » by phillynative » Thu Nov 16, 2023 6:01 pm

Negrodamus wrote:I know it'll be a non-starter for many here, and for good reason, but I wonder if Collin Sexton is on the table? Seems they have slowly been moving towards giving Keyonte George the minutes, which makes sense. Collin as a second unit guy gives us scoring and another ball handler on the roster. The problems with Sexton is he's 6'1, not a pure distributing PG, has 3 years left on his deal.

A trade for him and Kyle Anderson (also fell out of the rotation a bit) and call it a day would at least give us depth and two viable ball handlers to be on the court at any time.


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Post#666 » by M2J » Fri Nov 17, 2023 5:08 am

With Bridges off to slow offensive, low defensive start. Morey needs to play the back channel game and throw all the draft capital at him.
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Post#667 » by 76ciology » Fri Nov 17, 2023 5:09 am

If Morey didnt cut Isaiah Joe, we probably beat Celts in the playoffs last year
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Post#668 » by Embiid P » Fri Nov 17, 2023 5:32 am

76ciology wrote:If Morey didnt cut Isaiah Joe, we probably beat Celts in the playoffs last year


Would he have beaten them by using his telekinetic powers to strip the ball from them while sitting on the bench? Because that's about all he could have done under Rivers.
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Post#669 » by Negrodamus » Fri Nov 17, 2023 12:23 pm

phillynative wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:I know it'll be a non-starter for many here, and for good reason, but I wonder if Collin Sexton is on the table? Seems they have slowly been moving towards giving Keyonte George the minutes, which makes sense. Collin as a second unit guy gives us scoring and another ball handler on the roster. The problems with Sexton is he's 6'1, not a pure distributing PG, has 3 years left on his deal.

A trade for him and Kyle Anderson (also fell out of the rotation a bit) and call it a day would at least give us depth and two viable ball handlers to be on the court at any time.


Collin Sexton :noway:
Kyle Anderson :nod:


I definitely get it, but the options are pretty limited. I think talent pool in the league is pretty rough right now, so there are very few efficient scoring guards available at any time.
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Post#670 » by Negrodamus » Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:15 pm

Without looking, I’m guessing Isaiah Joe had his periodic big game last night given there’s posts here about him and multiple threads about him on Reddit.
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Post#671 » by Negrodamus » Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:25 pm

While I have some already disgusted with mentioning Collin Sexton's name, Marcus Morris + worst 1st we have for DLO is an option. Lakers are trying to get LaVine and likely need draft capital to make it happen.
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Post#672 » by mjkvol » Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:30 pm

76ciology wrote:If Glenn didn't force Morey to cut Isaiah Joe by not letting him see the floor and settle in, we probably beat Celts in the playoffs last year


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Post#673 » by mjkvol » Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:33 pm

Negrodamus wrote:While I have some already disgusted with mentioning Collin Sexton's name, Marcus Morris + worst 1st we have for DLO is an option. Lakers are trying to get LaVine and likely need draft capital to make it happen.


Man, you really are going for this forum's Bottom Of The Barrel group here.
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Post#674 » by Negrodamus » Fri Nov 17, 2023 1:40 pm

mjkvol wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:While I have some already disgusted with mentioning Collin Sexton's name, Marcus Morris + worst 1st we have for DLO is an option. Lakers are trying to get LaVine and likely need draft capital to make it happen.


Man, you really are going for this forum's Bottom Of The Barrel group here.


I unironically think DLO is a great fit here. He's currently playing the best offensive of his life (low turnover rate, solid shooting numbers, playing off ball more but still maintaining high assist numbers). He's not a great defensive player but not every player is going to be a 2-way stud. I'd rather pay a lower price to have 2 years of DLO on a role player contract than pay LaVine an all star salary for 4 years.
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Post#675 » by mjkvol » Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:09 pm

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mjkvol wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:While I have some already disgusted with mentioning Collin Sexton's name, Marcus Morris + worst 1st we have for DLO is an option. Lakers are trying to get LaVine and likely need draft capital to make it happen.


Man, you really are going for this forum's Bottom Of The Barrel group here.


I unironically think DLO is a great fit here. He's currently playing the best offensive of his life (low turnover rate, solid shooting numbers, playing off ball more but still maintaining high assist numbers). He's not a great defensive player but not every player is going to be a 2-way stud. I'd rather pay a lower price to have 2 years of DLO on a role player contract than pay LaVine an all star salary for 4 years.


Well, at least you succeeded in finding the comparison where I would greatly prefer DLO. And you make good points about his fit here if he is willing to be that "3rd-4th option" type role player, and he is certainly a guy you can ask to create his own shot in a big spot. Question - what are you giving up to get him?
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#676 » by Arsenal » Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:26 pm

That's the thing. I'm not giving up a 1st for a 1-way player like D'Lo who will get marginalized in high-leverage situations against teams like the Celtics, the teams we need to beat to win the title.

The Celtics got Derrick White for a 1st round pick. They got Malcolm Brogdon for a 1st round pick.

Those are the type of guys we need to target, someone who can complement our starters and not get played off the floor against top teams.
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Post#677 » by Zumramania » Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:37 pm

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76ciology wrote:If Morey didnt cut Isaiah Joe, we probably beat Celts in the playoffs last year


Would he have beaten them by using his telekinetic powers to strip the ball from them while sitting on the bench? Because that's about all he could have done under Rivers.


The decision to cut him was made by Morey and his staff, they could have kept him until this season. It was such a stupid decision, made by people who were paid handsomely to make such decisions. His bench scoring would be very useful right now, we desperately need volume 3 point shooters. And I remember some posters saying he was good only against bad teams and so on, well it doesn't seem like that.
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Post#678 » by seventy6ers » Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:51 pm

The first thing is to figure out the OG Anunoby situation. No picks should be traded for marginal players and unneeded contracts. If the OG thing bleeds into the offseason, then so be it, wait it out. He really seems to be the kind of player that would gel with Maxey and Embiid. I think we need to remain in a hold pattern for now.
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Post#679 » by Negrodamus » Fri Nov 17, 2023 2:54 pm

Arsenal wrote:That's the thing. I'm not giving up a 1st for a 1-way player like D'Lo who will get marginalized in high-leverage situations against teams like the Celtics, the teams we need to beat to win the title.

The Celtics got Derrick White for a 1st round pick. They got Malcolm Brogdon for a 1st round pick.

Those are the type of guys we need to target, someone who can complement our starters and not get played off the floor against top teams.


I mean, we already gave up a 1st for essentially a one way player in Melton. Yea, he has a history of being a 3&D, but he's not really a ballhandler nor is he a legitimate, consistent threat as a creator of offense.

I get what you're saying, but who are those guy on the market right now? I guess Brogdon is currently available, but he's an injury risk and already 31 years old.

Finally, what is it that we need? We have solid defensive players (Melton, Cov, Springer, Tobias, Embiid, Reed), we have our two stars (Maxey, Embiid), we have scorers (Tobi, Maxey, Embiid, Oubre), but we're lacking ballhandling creators. Maxey is doing a very good job of that, but he can't play the entire game. DLO is low key a top distributor in the league imo. He also fills a gap that we're struggling with, 3pt shooting.

I also think it's encouraging that DLO isn't trying to become a superstar anymore and has come to terms with being Derrick White: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Rwt3rAdELrM
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Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#680 » by Sixerscan » Fri Nov 17, 2023 3:08 pm

Black Mage wrote:One thing to keep in mind is how money added to the payroll this year isn't penalized/limited as much as it would be next year. I read an article where Morey brought this up, but I can't find it now. Anyone know how it plays out?


Not sure exactly what you mean but teams above the second apron won’t be able to combine salaries in trades next year. Like the Clippers wouldn’t have been able to do the Harden trade next year.

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