Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6

[sbsat]

There’s a universe where we traded Kyle for Maxey in 2020, Siakam for Haliburton in 2022

Scottie-Maxey-Haliburton and 5 chips

thats an alternative universe not based on anything remotely reality based. Let.ot go

[ForeverTFC]

Raw numbers look really nice. His TS is still average/below average and his 3p% probably has a bit more of a dip to it. Next step is to get his FTA up to Pascal comps at around 6.5-7 a game and up his FG% a bit in the mid-range. Fingers crossed.

[sbsat]

Raw numbers look really nice. His TS is still average/below average and his 3p% probably has a bit more of a dip to it. Next step is to get his FTA up to Pascal comps at around 6.5-7 a game and up his FG% a bit in the mid-range. Fingers crossed.

The refa give the man zero respect. None. Hopefully that changes

[Scase]

Raw numbers look really nice. His TS is still average/below average and his 3p% probably has a bit more of a dip to it. Next step is to get his FTA up to Pascal comps at around 6.5-7 a game and up his FG% a bit in the mid-range. Fingers crossed.

IMO his defensive numbers make up for the average to below average TS%, ideally I'd like to see him higher obviously, but it's less that his shooting is terrible, and more his lack of FTA.

[DG88]

Raw numbers look really nice. His TS is still average/below average and his 3p% probably has a bit more of a dip to it. Next step is to get his FTA up to Pascal comps at around 6.5-7 a game and up his FG% a bit in the mid-range. Fingers crossed.

IMO his defensive numbers make up for the average to below average TS%, ideally I'd like to see him higher obviously, but it's less that his shooting is terrible, and more his lack of FTA.

Because it's still early in the season his numbers are going to fluctuate whenever he has a good or bad game. By game 20 they should normalize some and it will be a pretty good representation of his actual numbers for the season.

[sidsid]

Raw numbers look really nice. His TS is still average/below average and his 3p% probably has a bit more of a dip to it. Next step is to get his FTA up to Pascal comps at around 6.5-7 a game and up his FG% a bit in the mid-range. Fingers crossed.

IMO his defensive numbers make up for the average to below average TS%, ideally I'd like to see him higher obviously, but it's less that his shooting is terrible, and more his lack of FTA.

This is also downstream from the spacing issue. You could see it with the Barnes/Jak PNR spam. Opponents don't have to make a tough choice, they pack the paint and shade off of Jak. It leads to some nice assists (or none at all if it's a quick swing from Jak) but hurting your other counting stats.

Again, the lemons/lemonade here is that we're seeing a lot more mid-range/dump shot practice for Barnes (and Siakam). An unintended feature of bad rotations in a development year.

[ArthurVandelay]

Giannis really worked well with a tall wing who can shoot. (Middleton)
Same thing with Simmons who had Tobias Harris.

wonder who this guy will be for the raptors, should we get a washed klay thompson lol

His name is Mr. Big Big Energy Gradey Dick. But 1 shooter isn't enough.

[DatHomieYouHaTe]

Raw numbers look really nice. His TS is still average/below average and his 3p% probably has a bit more of a dip to it. Next step is to get his FTA up to Pascal comps at around 6.5-7 a game and up his FG% a bit in the mid-range. Fingers crossed.

IMO his defensive numbers make up for the average to below average TS%, ideally I'd like to see him higher obviously, but it's less that his shooting is terrible, and more his lack of FTA.

All he has to do is flop/act more to get to the line more plus more aggression .. not a big deal. anyone can do that flopping stuff just watch Harden and Embiid tape to sell your stuff to the refs

[Scase]

Scottie played like booty cheeks tonight, what I've noticed the most about this offence that makes zero sense. We run so many screens with Siakam to get him a mismatch, yet we never do with Barnes.

[HumbleRen]

Scottie played like booty cheeks tonight, what I've noticed the most about this offence that makes zero sense. We run so many screens with Siakam to get him a mismatch, yet we never do with Barnes.

It’s partially his fault. He insists on being a perimeter player with the bench line ups but he does not have the burst to beat his man facing up so he creates almost 0 advantages.

He should park his ass on the high block and play a hub offence. Be the roll man with Flynn operating PNR’s. Play like a scoring big, not a passive jumbo point guard with the bench line ups.

[Scase]

Scottie played like booty cheeks tonight, what I've noticed the most about this offence that makes zero sense. We run so many screens with Siakam to get him a mismatch, yet we never do with Barnes.

It’s partially his fault. He insists on being a perimeter player with the bench line ups but he does not have the burst to beat his man facing up so he creates almost 0 advantages.

He should park his ass on the high block and play a hub offence. Be the roll man with Flynn operating PNR’s. Play like a scoring big, not a passive jumbo point guard with the bench line ups.

He's not the one that determines the offensive system, thats Darko. I agree he needs to be more aggressive and take over, but there's only so much control a player has.

[HumbleRen]

Scottie played like booty cheeks tonight, what I've noticed the most about this offence that makes zero sense. We run so many screens with Siakam to get him a mismatch, yet we never do with Barnes.

It’s partially his fault. He insists on being a perimeter player with the bench line ups but he does not have the burst to beat his man facing up so he creates almost 0 advantages.

He should park his ass on the high block and play a hub offence. Be the roll man with Flynn operating PNR’s. Play like a scoring big, not a passive jumbo point guard with the bench line ups.

He's not the one that determines the offensive system, thats Darko. I agree he needs to be more aggressive and take over, but there's only so much control a player has.

I watched him for 6 possessions in a row park in the corners like he was Matisse Thybulle.

That’s a Scottie thing, not Darko. I’m with you on the bigger picture though, Darko’s rotations are dog ****.

[Raps in 4]

Have we had a game this year where Scottie and Pascal both play well? It's almost as if when you have two players who play the same position and style, they can't coexist.

[HumbleRen]

Have we had a game this year where Scottie and Pascal both play well? It's almost as if when you have two players who play the same position and style, they can't coexist.

Only when they both shot like 90% from the 3 against the Bucks.

Other than that, no, not really. At least offensively.

[HiJiNX]

He gotta play like a first option every game. And that’s on him.

[microjacklin]

He gotta play like a first option every game. And that’s on him.

I just can't accept he let Mcdaniels to handle and shot the last possesion at 1st Q,
If he really want to be all-star, he need to take that possesion...

[DatHomieYouHaTe]

He gotta play like a first option every game. And that’s on him.

Ya, he needs to jack up more shots and get comfortable doing so. Look at Tatum he had a junk game he was bricking it up large. If Scottie put up 22 shots like Tatum we probably win Instead we got the G league players taking those shots that Masai has Acquired. Somebody got to let him know even the good players have off nights.

[Scase]

He gotta play like a first option every game. And that’s on him.

I just can't accept he let Mcdaniels to handle and shot the last possesion at 1st Q,
If he really want to be all-star, he need to take that possesion...

The problem is that Scottie gives his teammates way too much credit. The obvious correct play was for McDaniels to kick it back out to a wide open Scottie.

Driving from the 3 into Horford and Tatum was going to accomplish the exact same thing, except it would've been McDaniels open, who couldn't hit a 3 if his life depended on it. As much as Scottie needs to be more aggressive, this one aint on him.

[HumbleRen]

He gotta play like a first option every game. And that’s on him.

I just can't accept he let Mcdaniels to handle and shot the last possesion at 1st Q,
If he really want to be all-star, he need to take that possesion...

I rather die with Scottie driving into traffic and attempting to finish then see Scottie set Boucher and Precious up for contested mid range shots.

[Chandan]

He gotta play like a first option every game. And that’s on him.

I just can't accept he let Mcdaniels to handle and shot the last possesion at 1st Q,
If he really want to be all-star, he need to take that possesion...

The problem is that Scottie gives his teammates way too much credit. The obvious correct play was for McDaniels to kick it back out to a wide open Scottie.

Driving from the 3 into Horford and Tatum was going to accomplish the exact same thing, except it would've been McDaniels open, who couldn't hit a 3 if his life depended on it. As much as Scottie needs to be more aggressive, this one aint on him.

It's on masai. you have all these misfits who are likely playing out their last NBA contract, it's obvious they are going to force shots up to prove themselves. It's not as if they forgot scottie is the franchise player. They all have their agenda. One more reason #BETONYOURSELF is cancer and an antithesis to team concept.