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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 12/In-Season Tournament Game 2: Orlando Magic (6-5) at Chicago Bulls (4-8) - 8pm 

Post#561 » by MasterGMer » Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:51 am

JD930 wrote:First time poster here, been reading the boards for years now. Love that we got the win, a W is always good. But man, why does the same thing continue to happen in second half’s, it’s like we forget to play. We know that we need shooters and spacing to maximize Franz and Paolo, but can we please get coach a good offensive assistant or something. Don’t get me wrong, I love what Mosley has done with these young men and the energy they bring but damn, sometimes you wish for a little more. Also, he should have let JI in, moment he came out that lead went bye bye. Anyways, I enjoy all your guys opinions and insight through the years, glad to be on here now.


You always knew Chicago was going to make a run. They have enough fire power. So the run by them is expected. What we have to learn is to make open shots down the road plus stop TOOOOOOOOOs. That is the pure recipe for Failure! We have done it again and again.

I don't know what was on guys' mind down the stretch. But we can not make the same mistakes again and again. Luckily Vuc's 3 didn't go in. Otherwise, we probably lose tonight
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 12/In-Season Tournament Game 2: Orlando Magic (6-5) at Chicago Bulls (4-8) - 8pm 

Post#562 » by thelead » Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:51 am

Knightro wrote:So...

Fultz, Harris, Okeke, 2024 Orlando 1st Lotto Protected, 2025 Denver 1st for LaVine?

Sign McClung with the open roster spot.

Are you good with locking up ~1/3 of your cap space for the next 4 years? That's a tough pill to swallow
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 12/In-Season Tournament Game 2: Orlando Magic (6-5) at Chicago Bulls (4-8) - 8pm 

Post#564 » by Rainwater » Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:53 am

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MasterGMer wrote:Are you guys ready for Fultz to be back? :)


From a pure ball handling perspective, yes.

But he only exacerbates a lot of other problems.


Yeah, his ball handling would help but he is such a poor shooter. The early part of the game when the magic were building their 20 point lead and the later part of the game when they lost the lead shows how important the three point shot is. Fultz would not help in that situation.
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Post#565 » by MasterGMer » Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:53 am

btw McClung went for 44 points tonight with a W
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Post#566 » by eyriq » Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:53 am

basketballRob wrote:We need to hold Indiana under 100 and get Franz 18 shots. Easy

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Post#567 » by mattyBoi » Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:53 am

Knightro wrote:So...

Fultz, Harris, Okeke, 2024 Orlando 1st Lotto Protected, 2025 Denver 1st for LaVine?

Sign McClung with the open roster spot.


Easy yes.
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Post#568 » by djguevara114 » Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:54 am

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djguevara114 wrote:Listening to Mosley is going to make me hurl….

“Im so proud of these guys, they found themselves in the same position as last game and they were positive…”

Chew their ass out, this isn’t rec league basketball—you’re being our coached and your team isn’t prepared…


Dictator coaches are very 1970s and you do know the big leads they built can be attributed to the coach too, right? You think he just tells them to eat **** for the next 24 mins?


I did a poor job explaining my point, I apologize…

He’s being out coached, out schemed, and doesn’t know how to make in game adjustments or play effective line-ups… If he put them in a position to win, he would have a little more bite…

I love their first half, but how many games in a row will you continue to get our coached… Adjustments are part of the game, he can’t adjust….
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Post#569 » by basketballRob » Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:54 am

Just bring in AB to knee Haliburton in the balls, and we'll be fine.

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Post#570 » by Rainwater » Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:55 am

SOUL wrote:Some games Paolo looks fluid and quick, other games he looks like he labors just to get around a guy and throws up clunkers. The crazy thing is that even during his rookie year, you'd think he's having a bad game and he'd still have like 20 points or a lot of rebs and assists. The raw talent is there.


Completely agree.
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Post#571 » by VFX » Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:56 am

SOUL wrote:Some games Paolo looks fluid and quick, other games he looks like he labors just to get around a guy and throws up clunkers. The crazy thing is that even during his rookie year, you'd think he's having a bad game and he'd still have like 20 points or a lot of rebs and assists. The raw talent is there.


You can see flashes of talent.

There are just times where you see everyone on the floor defer to him and he makes questionable decisions driving to the basket. I get that he’s able to create offense downhill but sometimes, like the second to last play, hes just forcing it unnecessarily.

These are situations where you’d wish he wasn’t the one making these split second decisions and you had a guy to run an offense for him. Hopefully it’s solved. Luckily Franz pulled this one out for us.
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Post#572 » by mattyBoi » Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:56 am

We're in a great position to unload guys like Fultz, Harris, WCJ for a star. If an opportunity presents itself we have to take it.
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Post#573 » by Rainwater » Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:56 am

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eyriq wrote:They are playing great defense and carrying the offense on a 7-5 team


I agree but we really need their consistency to be great. Paolo has played some great games but also has had his share of poor games as well. Same thing with Franz. Even within this game Paolo played well in the first half but was horrible in the second half. He was turning the ball over like crazy. I am not worried they are young and will get better but they need to be more consistently.

I was really hyped about Paolo's Point forward skills but games like this makes me wonder if might be better off off the ball with a playmaking guard. At times he really did struggle one on one.


He can’t create for himself with the ball in his hands and he’s horrible in the post… Perfect franchise player!


This is a ridiculous statement.
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Post#574 » by eyriq » Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:57 am

We won bench points 50-8...
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Post#575 » by GameOver25 » Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:57 am

SOUL wrote:Some games Paolo looks fluid and quick, other games he looks like he labors just to get around a guy and throws up clunkers. The crazy thing is that even during his rookie year, you'd think he's having a bad game and he'd still have like 20 points or a lot of rebs and assists. The raw talent is there.


I'm not worried about Paolo. We're just cookie crumbs eating RealGM posters. He's the one out there still young trying to figure it all out. I'm still got my stock.
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Post#576 » by eyriq » Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:57 am

MagicMatic wrote:
SOUL wrote:Some games Paolo looks fluid and quick, other games he looks like he labors just to get around a guy and throws up clunkers. The crazy thing is that even during his rookie year, you'd think he's having a bad game and he'd still have like 20 points or a lot of rebs and assists. The raw talent is there.


You can see flashes of talent.

There are just times where you see everyone on the floor defer to him and he makes questionable decisions driving to the basket. I get that he’s able to create offense downhill but sometimes, like the second to last play, hes just forcing it unnecessarily.

These are situations where you’d wish he wasn’t the one making these split second decisions and you had a guy to run an offense for him. Hopefully it’s solved. Luckily Franz pulled this one out for us.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 12/In-Season Tournament Game 2: Orlando Magic (6-5) at Chicago Bulls (4-8) - 8pm 

Post#577 » by KillMonger » Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:58 am

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Post#578 » by JD930 » Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:58 am

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JD930 wrote:First time poster here, been reading the boards for years now. Love that we got the win, a W is always good. But man, why does the same thing continue to happen in second half’s, it’s like we forget to play. We know that we need shooters and spacing to maximize Franz and Paolo, but can we please get coach a good offensive assistant or something. Don’t get me wrong, I love what Mosley has done with these young men and the energy they bring but damn, sometimes you wish for a little more. Also, he should have let JI in, moment he came out that lead went bye bye. Anyways, I enjoy all your guys opinions and insight through the years, glad to be on here now.


You always knew Chicago was going to make a run. They have enough fire power. So the run by them is expected. What we have to learn is to make open shots down the road plus stop TOOOOOOOOOs. That is the pure recipe for Failure! We have done it again and again.

I don't know what was on guys' mind down the stretch. But we can not make the same mistakes again and again. Luckily Vuc's 3 didn't go in. Otherwise, we probably lose tonight


Very true, their run was gonna come, but we can’t rely just on defense, timely buckets and less turnovers are a must.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 12/In-Season Tournament Game 2: Orlando Magic (6-5) at Chicago Bulls (4-8) - 8pm 

Post#579 » by SOUL » Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:58 am

djguevara114 wrote:I love their first half, but how many games in a row will you continue to get our coached… Adjustments are part of the game, he can’t adjust….


Yeah, but at what point is holding 20 point leads on the road with 3 starters out sustainable, with a young team might I add?

Like at the end, it sucked, but when LaVine was throwing up flamethrower contested shots and we're missing wide open ones and missing free throws, it's hard for me to get mad at the coach there.

End up game stuff can be cleaned up of course, don't like the Paolo drive - but he gave Paolo the freedom last game and he came through for us. The personnel is far from perfect and he has all of them playing defense.
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Re: 2023-2024 Regular Season Game 12/In-Season Tournament Game 2: Orlando Magic (6-5) at Chicago Bulls (4-8) - 8pm 

Post#580 » by KillMonger » Sat Nov 18, 2023 3:59 am

Rainwater wrote:
djguevara114 wrote:
Rainwater wrote:
I agree but we really need their consistency to be great. Paolo has played some great games but also has had his share of poor games as well. Same thing with Franz. Even within this game Paolo played well in the first half but was horrible in the second half. He was turning the ball over like crazy. I am not worried they are young and will get better but they need to be more consistently.

I was really hyped about Paolo's Point forward skills but games like this makes me wonder if might be better off off the ball with a playmaking guard. At times he really did struggle one on one.


He can’t create for himself with the ball in his hands and he’s horrible in the post… Perfect franchise player!


This is a ridiculous statement.

dude just ignore....it's a broken record with this dude
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