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Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6

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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1901 » by Scase » Sat Nov 18, 2023 6:44 am

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microjacklin wrote:I just can't accept he let Mcdaniels to handle and shot the last possesion at 1st Q,
If he really want to be all-star, he need to take that possesion...

The problem is that Scottie gives his teammates way too much credit. The obvious correct play was for McDaniels to kick it back out to a wide open Scottie.

Driving from the 3 into Horford and Tatum was going to accomplish the exact same thing, except it would've been McDaniels open, who couldn't hit a 3 if his life depended on it. As much as Scottie needs to be more aggressive, this one aint on him.


It's on masai. you have all these misfits who are likely playing out their last NBA contract, it's obvious they are going to force shots up to prove themselves. It's not as if they forgot scottie is the franchise player. They all have their agenda. One more reason #BETONYOURSELF is cancer and an antithesis to team concept.

Oh yeah, I know all this is at Masais feet, but on court I still think Scottie needs to realize the people he is playing with are morons, and he just needs to stop trying to get these glorified g leaguers open looks and just do it himself.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1902 » by Los_29 » Sat Nov 18, 2023 11:55 am

Chandan wrote:
Scase wrote:
microjacklin wrote:I just can't accept he let Mcdaniels to handle and shot the last possesion at 1st Q,
If he really want to be all-star, he need to take that possesion...

The problem is that Scottie gives his teammates way too much credit. The obvious correct play was for McDaniels to kick it back out to a wide open Scottie.

Driving from the 3 into Horford and Tatum was going to accomplish the exact same thing, except it would've been McDaniels open, who couldn't hit a 3 if his life depended on it. As much as Scottie needs to be more aggressive, this one aint on him.


It's on masai. you have all these misfits who are likely playing out their last NBA contract, it's obvious they are going to force shots up to prove themselves. It's not as if they forgot scottie is the franchise player. They all have their agenda. One more reason #BETONYOURSELF is cancer and an antithesis to team concept.


Houston: 6-3
Us: 5-7
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1903 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Sat Nov 18, 2023 12:49 pm

FVV is averaging like 8 assists and 1.7 turnovers a game in 36 minutes. Very positive plus minus so far, Los.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1904 » by DatHomieYouHaTe » Sat Nov 18, 2023 1:44 pm

Los_29 wrote:
Chandan wrote:
Scase wrote:The problem is that Scottie gives his teammates way too much credit. The obvious correct play was for McDaniels to kick it back out to a wide open Scottie.

Driving from the 3 into Horford and Tatum was going to accomplish the exact same thing, except it would've been McDaniels open, who couldn't hit a 3 if his life depended on it. As much as Scottie needs to be more aggressive, this one aint on him.


It's on masai. you have all these misfits who are likely playing out their last NBA contract, it's obvious they are going to force shots up to prove themselves. It's not as if they forgot scottie is the franchise player. They all have their agenda. One more reason #BETONYOURSELF is cancer and an antithesis to team concept.


Houston: 6-3
Us: 5-7


We need Scottie to get on the BET ON YOURSELF program is the issue.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1905 » by Los_29 » Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:35 pm

DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
Chandan wrote:
It's on masai. you have all these misfits who are likely playing out their last NBA contract, it's obvious they are going to force shots up to prove themselves. It's not as if they forgot scottie is the franchise player. They all have their agenda. One more reason #BETONYOURSELF is cancer and an antithesis to team concept.


Houston: 6-3
Us: 5-7


We need Scottie to get on the BET ON YOURSELF program is the issue.


He will be on it next year when he’s gunning for that max.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1906 » by Yeezus_ » Sat Nov 18, 2023 4:38 pm

Los_29 wrote:
DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
Houston: 6-3
Us: 5-7


We need Scottie to get on the BET ON YOURSELF program is the issue.


He will be on it next year when he’s gunning for that max.
Hes def getting the rookie max regardless of how much better he gets from here on out just based on potetial.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1907 » by Syd-TK3 » Sun Nov 19, 2023 4:31 am

Read on Twitter

No idea what TPA is but good company
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1908 » by Scase » Sun Nov 19, 2023 6:44 am

Syd-TK3 wrote:
Read on Twitter

No idea what TPA is but good company

TPA explained in much greater detail.

As such, the formula for TPA is rather simple. It’s broken down into two parts—offensive points added (OPA) and defensive points saved (DPS)—and each is calculated in the same vein.

Add OPA and DPS together, and you have TPA. A score of zero indicates a player was perfectly average (by no means a bad thing for rookies or lifelong end-of-bench players), while anything positive means they were better than an average-level replacement.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1909 » by Brinbe » Sun Nov 19, 2023 6:07 pm

Read on Twitter


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pretty good company for scottie
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1910 » by TorontoBarneys » Sun Nov 19, 2023 6:14 pm

Emerging superstar. I think he'll be one by year 5 assuming no more boneheaded moves that sidetrack his development by the FO.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1911 » by Syd-TK3 » Sun Nov 19, 2023 6:28 pm

Scase wrote:
Syd-TK3 wrote:
Read on Twitter

No idea what TPA is but good company

TPA explained in much greater detail.

As such, the formula for TPA is rather simple. It’s broken down into two parts—offensive points added (OPA) and defensive points saved (DPS)—and each is calculated in the same vein.

Add OPA and DPS together, and you have TPA. A score of zero indicates a player was perfectly average (by no means a bad thing for rookies or lifelong end-of-bench players), while anything positive means they were better than an average-level replacement.

Makes sense and definitely matches the eye test
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1912 » by alienchild » Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:47 pm

Syd-TK3 wrote:
Scase wrote:
Syd-TK3 wrote:
Read on Twitter

No idea what TPA is but good company

TPA explained in much greater detail.

As such, the formula for TPA is rather simple. It’s broken down into two parts—offensive points added (OPA) and defensive points saved (DPS)—and each is calculated in the same vein.

Add OPA and DPS together, and you have TPA. A score of zero indicates a player was perfectly average (by no means a bad thing for rookies or lifelong end-of-bench players), while anything positive means they were better than an average-level replacement.

Makes sense and definitely matches the eye test


Or try this advanced stats measurement from this season. :)

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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1913 » by Vampirate » Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:02 am

Process this.

We drafted a shooter in the recent draft, named Gradey Dick to pair with Scottie Barnes.

We potentially landed one out of nowhere in Scottie Barnes.

Season be weird yo.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1914 » by MiamiSPX » Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:26 am

The 3 looks legit.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1915 » by WuTang_CMB » Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:37 am

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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1916 » by Vampirate » Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:53 am

WuTang_OG wrote:

I honestly don't think it's Barnes driving that's going to be his biggest strengths.

He just doesn't have the first step for it.

It's his combination of strength and shooting (ironically) that's what's going to make him an All Star, and I don't just mean from three point range.

Handle - Good, not All Star Level
Driving - Ok, not All Star Level
Passing - Very Good - Not All Star level (the Hali/LaMelo range)
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1917 » by tdotrep2 » Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:00 am

WuTang_OG wrote:

This kind of scares me
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1918 » by DemHeavyHands » Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:02 am

tdotrep2 wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:

This kind of scares me

It sounds like a whole bunch of bs tbh :lol: :lol:

If you got a guy who’s elite at a lot of stuff, you give him the ball more and increase his usage :lol:
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1919 » by HumbleRen » Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:03 am

Vampirate wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:

I honestly don't think it's Barnes driving that's going to be his biggest strengths.

He just doesn't have the first step for it.

It's his combination of strength and shooting (ironically) that's what's going to make him an All Star, and I don't just mean from three point range.

Handle - Good, not All Star Level
Driving - Ok, not All Star Level
Passing - Very Good - Not All Star level (the Hali/LaMelo range)


Yeah, im confused that he said driving. Maybe he means transition ?

Even Siakam on a down year is still driving more than Scottie.
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Re: Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6 

Post#1920 » by pingpongrac » Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:04 am

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Scottie is an absolute force when he drives and putting him in position to be the screener then either roll, take the open midrange shot, step back for the three or make the next pass is ideal because he reads the floor so well and he has the ability to do so many things. Lineups with Scottie as the small ball 5 have more often than not been very effective in large part because of his decision making and versatility.

This is why I think Darko is going to be a good coach for us with more time. He's generally saying all of the right things, but he just hasn't come up with a plan for how to execute it all yet and he/the team is still learning on the fly. He does crap like playing the bench together (or Scottie + 4 reserves) and sticking with a rigid substitution pattern (which always takes Scottie out very early in Q1/Q3 regardless of how he's playing or matchups on the floor), but he's doing more good than bad for the future of the franchise and it's clear he has goals in mind. I just don't agree with some of them (like starting Schroder and giving him the green light lol).
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