Beating the Raps Is Always In Season! Tournament Victory Cigar vs TOR 11/17

[Fencer reregistered]

Cs would've won 60 games if they didn't lose games that they shouldn't have.

Perfect example is Grant at the FT line with no time left and the score was tied.
All Grant had to do was make one and the Cs would've won.
But he missed both!

There were lots of games the Cs lost last season because of incompetence.

So Boston hasn't lost any close games so far this year?

Celtics are 4-2 in games featuring clutch time this year, last year they were 24-13. Just to put some numbers on it and bring perspective.

Early days but that's 66% win rate compared to 60% last season

Your arithmetic is off.

24-16 would be 60%.
24-12 would be an identical ratio to 4-2.
24-13 is very close to 24-12.

[Fierce1]

Also, we can't just say they would've lost X game last season after every single close game lol. That team won 70% of their games.

Cs would've won 60 games if they didn't lose games that they shouldn't have.

Perfect example is Grant at the FT line with no time left and the score was tied.
All Grant had to do was make one and the Cs would've won.
But he missed both!

There were lots of games the Cs lost last season because of incompetence.

So Boston hasn't lost any close games so far this year?

I'm not referring to close games, I'm referring to games that they should not have lost.

One example is that Cleveland game where all Grant had to do was make 1 FT and the Celts would have won.

[Fierce1]

Another example is the Celtics lost the season series to Orlando last season.

Celts lost 2 straight to Orlando, both in Boston.

No way Celts should have lost to a lottery team twice at home.

[BrianFitz]

Cs would've won 60 games if they didn't lose games that they shouldn't have.

Perfect example is Grant at the FT line with no time left and the score was tied.
All Grant had to do was make one and the Cs would've won.
But he missed both!

There were lots of games the Cs lost last season because of incompetence.

So Boston hasn't lost any close games so far this year?

I'm not referring to close games, I'm referring to games that they should not have lost.

One example is that Cleveland game where all Grant had to do was make 1 FT and the Celts would have won.

Games "should have not lost" is random and could be compared to any game you want it to be. I think they SHOULD have won against both Philly and Minnesota this year.

[Fierce1]

So Boston hasn't lost any close games so far this year?

I'm not referring to close games, I'm referring to games that they should not have lost.

One example is that Cleveland game where all Grant had to do was make 1 FT and the Celts would have won.

Games "should have not lost" is random and could be compared to any game you want it to be. I think they SHOULD have won against both Philly and Minnesota this year.

Losing to a lottery team like Orlando, on back to back games in Boston, is another example.

Remember last season how Celtic fans here kept saying the Celtics should not play to the level of their competition?

There are at least 5 games the Celtics should not have lost last season.

So far the Cs have taken care of business against bad teams this season.

[steefP2]

So Boston hasn't lost any close games so far this year?

Celtics are 4-2 in games featuring clutch time this year, last year they were 24-13. Just to put some numbers on it and bring perspective.

Early days but that's 66% win rate compared to 60% last season

Your arithmetic is off.

24-16 would be 60%.
24-12 would be an identical ratio to 4-2.
24-13 is very close to 24-12.

Right 24-13 is close to 64%

[ParticleMan]

yeah but it feels a lot more sustainable this year. last year we won close games when tatum dribbled the air out and then made an incredible shot or set up a teammate. everyone knew what was coming. but when the competition ramps up, that is not a recipe for success, as we saw against the heat.

this year, particularly with holiday, we are continuing to run our offense and exploit mismatches all over the floor even in crunchtime. everyone is involved, which makes us a lot harder to guard.

also i kinda discount the philly loss as "close". we were thoroughly beat until a late flurry of 3's. so i'd say we're 4-1, with only anthony edwards' brilliance preventing us from 5-0.

[VeryMuchWoke]

yeah but it feels a lot more sustainable this year. last year we won close games when tatum dribbled the air out and then made an incredible shot or set up a teammate. everyone knew what was coming. but when the competition ramps up, that is not a recipe for success, as we saw against the heat.

this year, particularly with holiday, we are continuing to run our offense and exploit mismatches all over the floor even in crunchtime. everyone is involved, which makes us a lot harder to guard.

also i kinda discount the philly loss as "close". we were thoroughly beat until a late flurry of 3's. so i'd say we're 4-1, with only anthony edwards' brilliance preventing us from 5-0.

It's too early to extrapolate too much, but aesthetically the offense looks much better this year in crunch time. Much more ball movement, much less iso-ball. I would bet the offensive rating in crunch time is better as well.

Furthermore, I think last year's 24-13 sample is inflated due to playing down to opponents and having crunch time against lesser opponents. This year that's mostly not the case.

Edit: I just checked and this year our clutch offensive rating is 125. Last year's was 110.

[bisme37]

Raps game thread is all about how their coach made Derrick White hit the game winning 3 by leaving him open and made Barnes miss the final shot by icing him. As if the players had nothing to do with it.

I think we may have done this to Joe last season lol.