Safe to say, Chet "Hologram" Holgrem > Paolo Banchero

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Re: Safe to say, Chet "Hologram" Holgrem > Paolo Banchero 

Post#161 » by ThunderBolt » Sun Nov 19, 2023 1:18 pm

FrightCoward wrote:Don’t know why it always has to be a “who is better” scenario where we tear down one young player to build up the one who is on our team. Both can be good. Lol.

Welcome to the general board. Even if Chet ends up being better, Orlando is in a great spot. I don't view the Chet vs Wemby/Paolo comparissons as worth my time. I always wish the best for other small market teams.
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Post#162 » by jasonxxx102 » Sun Nov 19, 2023 1:18 pm

It’s a serious pet peeve of mine when people can’t spell players names correctly… anyways I think the OP is correct.

Holmgren does virtually everything better than Paolo, besides having an NBA body I guess
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Post#163 » by Lalouie » Sun Nov 19, 2023 1:26 pm

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Post#164 » by FrightCoward » Sun Nov 19, 2023 1:45 pm

jasonxxx102 wrote:It’s a serious pet peeve of mine when people can’t spell players names correctly… anyways I think the OP is correct.

Holmgren does virtually everything better than Paolo, besides having an NBA body I guess


I mean, I don’t think he is as good a passer or someone you can throw the ball to and ask to get a bucket on his own as the #1 option, so I think Paolo is definitely better in the regard, but Chet also does things better than Paolo. Each have their own strengths and weaknesses.
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Re: Safe to say, Chet "Hologram" Holgrem > Paolo Banchero 

Post#165 » by Dadouv47 » Sun Nov 19, 2023 2:02 pm

I had Chet #1 in the 2022 draft and was so happy we got him but so far they are both great and it's impossible to know who will have the best career. I think Chet has a higher ceiling but the bust potential is also still there (one big injury away to be in big trouble) while Banchero is doing great for more than one season.
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Post#166 » by slick_watts » Sun Nov 19, 2023 2:02 pm

had the thunder been forced to make a choice between paolo and chet i wonder who they would have taken. i think chet, still, but maybe only because sam presti wanted to avoid the 'seattle ties'. i really liked paolo and thought his average outcome was probably better than chet, but chet had the higher ceiling albeit with more risk. i'm glad the thunder took chet.
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Post#167 » by SpreeS » Sun Nov 19, 2023 2:12 pm

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Post#168 » by SeattleJazzFan » Sun Nov 19, 2023 2:24 pm

TheNewEra wrote:Wouldn’t be all that shocking if Chet has the better career.


it would be shocking if he doesn't have a better career. paolo has a chance to be a really good player. chet is special. dude is just different. this really isn't a fair comparison. Chet is Bird to Wemby's Magic. Paolo is Dominique or Adrian Dantley or whoever else we want him to be. Chet is simply on a different level.

they just aren't in the same stratosphere at this point. pick your advanced stat or your counting stat, Chet blows him out of the water. even ppg - paolo is supposed to the superior scorer, but he's getting 18 ppg and Chet 17 ppg - that's the one thing Paolo was supposed to have on Chet. doesn't even have that. Chet just does it A LOT more efficiently and does everything else on the court better than Paolo.
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Post#169 » by jasonxxx102 » Sun Nov 19, 2023 2:45 pm

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jasonxxx102 wrote:It’s a serious pet peeve of mine when people can’t spell players names correctly… anyways I think the OP is correct.

Holmgren does virtually everything better than Paolo, besides having an NBA body I guess


I mean, I don’t think he is as good a passer or someone you can throw the ball to and ask to get a bucket on his own as the #1 option, so I think Paolo is definitely better in the regard, but Chet also does things better than Paolo. Each have their own strengths and weaknesses.


Chet can absolutely go get a bucket on his own. His handle is at least as good as Paolo if not better.

I don’t really see either guy as a #1 type shot creator
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Post#170 » by hippesthippo » Sun Nov 19, 2023 2:58 pm

I'm still going Paolo. You can build your team around Paolo.

Chet is good, but you don't build your team around Chet.
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Post#171 » by 3ddman23 » Sun Nov 19, 2023 3:23 pm

Chet was perfect for okc and Paolo was perfect for orlando. Chet plugs right in with sga and can just play off of him and not have to focus on generating offense. While Paolo has all eyes on him every single game every single night. Paolo getting doubled or triple teamed almost every time he gets the ball ( becasue the magic don't habe great shooting around him). I would love to see how chet would have handled the load that Paolo has with the magic right now. Something tells me the magic would still be the worst team in the league in that instance....
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Post#172 » by JXL » Sun Nov 19, 2023 3:29 pm

I think both are in the perfect situations. Chet gets to play alongside a star talent like SGA with complimentary role players, and all his role is to defend the rim, pick-n-pop, and guard wings/bigs. Once he can put on some muscle and about 10lbs, he's gonna be dangerous.

For Banchero, he's a good defender already, but once his shooting is polished, he's gonna be a superstar (don't quote me on that).
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Post#173 » by GSWFan1994 » Sun Nov 19, 2023 3:49 pm

I watched all 3 games Chet played against the Warriors and I liked a lot what I saw.

Chet eventually is gonna be an All-Star, no doubt about that. He's very poised, defends quite well, his shot is way better than what I expected to be too.
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Post#174 » by DC_Melo » Sun Nov 19, 2023 3:51 pm

hippesthippo wrote:I'm still going Paolo. You can build your team around Paolo.

Chet is good, but you don't build your team around Chet.


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Post#175 » by The Real Dalic » Sun Nov 19, 2023 4:22 pm

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TheNewEra wrote:Wouldn’t be all that shocking if Chet has the better career.


it would be shocking if he doesn't have a better career. paolo has a chance to be a really good player. chet is special. dude is just different. this really isn't a fair comparison. Chet is Bird to Wemby's Magic. Paolo is Dominique or Adrian Dantley or whoever else we want him to be. Chet is simply on a different level.

they just aren't in the same stratosphere at this point. pick your advanced stat or your counting stat, Chet blows him out of the water. even ppg - paolo is supposed to the superior scorer, but he's getting 18 ppg and Chet 17 ppg - that's the one thing Paolo was supposed to have on Chet. doesn't even have that. Chet just does it A LOT more efficiently and does everything else on the court better than Paolo.

Chet doesn't face triple teams the entire game. Chet is also a worse playmaker than Paolo. Chet is a great player as well, but he's flanked by an MVP level player, an elite playmaker, and more consistent shooters and shooting.

Paolo is the number 1 guy on a team that really only has two players who can be classified as shooters. And they're both bench players in Gary Harris and Joe Ingles.
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Post#176 » by FrightCoward » Sun Nov 19, 2023 4:25 pm

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TheNewEra wrote:Wouldn’t be all that shocking if Chet has the better career.


it would be shocking if he doesn't have a better career. paolo has a chance to be a really good player. chet is special. dude is just different. this really isn't a fair comparison. Chet is Bird to Wemby's Magic. Paolo is Dominique or Adrian Dantley or whoever else we want him to be. Chet is simply on a different level.

they just aren't in the same stratosphere at this point. pick your advanced stat or your counting stat, Chet blows him out of the water. even ppg - paolo is supposed to the superior scorer, but he's getting 18 ppg and Chet 17 ppg - that's the one thing Paolo was supposed to have on Chet. doesn't even have that. Chet just does it A LOT more efficiently and does everything else on the court better than Paolo.

Chet doesn't face triple teams the entire game. Chet is also a worse playmaker than Paolo. Chet is a great player as well, but he's flanked by an MVP level player, an elite playmaker, and more consistent shooters and shooting.

Paolo is the number 1 guy on a team that really only has two players who can be classified as shooters. And they're both bench players in Gary Harris and Joe Ingles.


For sure. Neither Wagner nor Banchero have much room to operate because everyone just collapses on them when they get the ball due to Orlando’s lack of shooting. Spacing is a real problem for that team.
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Post#177 » by Prez » Sun Nov 19, 2023 4:27 pm

Chet’s firmly in the “he’s gonna be amazing as long as he stays healthy” category for me. Same category that Wemby is in, Zion was, etc. Unbelievable talents but due to their physical profile there’s just a bit higher injury risk.

But if he stays healthy he’s just way too skilled everywhere (jumper, handles, passing, etc), way too smart/instinctive on both ends, and way too competitive/driven to not become a great player. Just needs to slowly/steadily add a few pounds of muscle every year and get up to the ~235 range in his mid 20s.
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Post#178 » by ogmagicfan » Sun Nov 19, 2023 4:48 pm

Prez wrote:Chet’s firmly in the “he’s gonna be amazing as long as he stays healthy” category for me. Same category that Wemby is in, Zion was, etc. Unbelievable talents but due to their physical profile there’s just a bit higher injury risk.

But if he stays healthy he’s just way too skilled everywhere (jumper, handles, passing, etc), way too smart/instinctive on both ends, and way too competitive/driven to not become a great player. Just needs to slowly/steadily add a few pounds of muscle every year and get up to the ~235 range in his mid 20s.


Hopefully he does stay healthy. I dont see a scenario where he can reach 235 lbs with his narrow frame though. I feel like adding that much weight even over time would affect him negatively athletically and if anything would put him at more of an injury risk, specifically with the foot problems he's had

He'll just have to work on his face up game, because his back down/post up game won't be that effective, specifically in the playoffs unless he starts with deep positioning in the paint and can go with a baby hook
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Post#179 » by MrBigShot » Sun Nov 19, 2023 5:01 pm

Chet is all star caliber already.

17/8/3/2 on 55/44/90, plays both ends. 2nd best player on a top 4 seed team. The kid gets 30 mins a game and takes less than 11 shots a game doing this.
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Post#180 » by BlazersBroncos » Sun Nov 19, 2023 5:02 pm

I dont think we have seen a guy as frail looking yet tough as Chet since early KG. Kid is a DOG.

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