Wembanyama. I'm concerned

[The Real Dalic]

He's averaging 19/9 and 3 blocks as a 19 year old rookie and people are calling him Andrea Bargnani and Bol Bol. That's hilarious. He has ROTY on lockdown with Chet Holmgren a distant second.

How? Chet is averaging only 2PPG less on far far far better efficiency (55% vs 43%FG; 44% vs 28% 3PFG). They play the same amount of minutes. Wemby has slightly more blocks (2.6 vs 2.2). I think right now Holmgreen is better than Wemby and should be ahead as ROY. Now this might still change although I don t think it will due to my previous efficiency concerns about Wemby.

Even if it were to stay this way, Wemby will likely win it due to the hype. Wemby is obviously a great player at only 19. But if this holds out the rest of the season Chet should win it. He just probably won't.

[dirkules_41]

I guess the majority of the efficiency will come from playing with actual team mates eventually that know where to find him and get him high % looks around the basket instead of having him go create in ISO in his first 20 games against NBA level talent.

[Kineto]

Victor's 3-point percentage doesn't really worry me, I was expecting him to shoot around 30% (or for Pop to ban him from 3-point shooting this year).

On the other hand, having seen all his games last season with the Mets 92, I find that some of the shots he's supposed to be taking aren't really going in, which goes some way to explaining his current shooting inefficiency. Victor plays like a 4, facing the basket, and generally has a pretty good mid-range game, but for the past few games, the 3-4 metter shots he was regularly taking last year aren't going in at all.

Probably a problem adapting to the NBA rhythm, but don't take him for a Rudy Gobert++, who's only good for dunk and alley-oop.

[Yoshun]

Just for reference, look at some of the names mentioned in this thread. Here are the numbers for LeBron and Durant in their first season.

LeBron: 42/29/75 with a 48.8 TS
Durant: 43/29/87 with a 51.9% TS

He's a rookie, relax.

[Lakers In 5]

This thread right here is what the other side of the immense hype around Wembanyama is, or better yet, what is the result of said immense hype. A lot of people got lost in what is realistic and were deeming him all sorts of stuff before he had played even a second in a regular season game. First Team All-NBA, an MVP case and even 'goat potential'... Fail to meet that expectation for just a moment and the naysayers will come out the woodworks.

The most realistic outcome is he'll have games this season where he looks invincible, he'll have games where he looks horrid, something I've been saying from the beginning. Want to know why? Because he is a rookie, and these things happen. It's best to not put too much emphasis on either, and give him some time to figure it out. Unfortunately, most people just wish to talk in extremes.

[Wargreymon]

He's averaging 19/9 and 3 blocks as a 19 year old rookie and people are calling him Andrea Bargnani and Bol Bol. That's hilarious. He has ROTY on lockdown with Chet Holmgren a distant second.

How? Chet is averaging only 2PPG less on far far far better efficiency (55% vs 43%FG; 44% vs 28% 3PFG). They play the same amount of minutes. Wemby has slightly more blocks (2.6 vs 2.2). I think right now Holmgreen is better than Wemby and should be ahead as ROY. Now this might still change although I don t think it will due to my previous efficiency concerns about Wemby.

Chet is playing next to SGA who commands the lionshare of the attention and sets him up for easier more efficient shots. Wemby is being defended as the defacto number 1 option and has...Jeremy Sochan feeding him the ball. Night and day difference.

[ajones9219]

I got flamed on the board like 5 games into the year for saying Wemby isn't going to be this instant All-Star taking the Spurs toothed playoffs in year one.

Rookies typically aren't winning players right off the bat. No shade to the kid

[C0bR]

He's averaging 19/9 and 3 blocks as a 19 year old rookie and people are calling him Andrea Bargnani and Bol Bol. That's hilarious. He has ROTY on lockdown with Chet Holmgren a distant second.

How? Chet is averaging only 2PPG less on far far far better efficiency (55% vs 43%FG; 44% vs 28% 3PFG). They play the same amount of minutes. Wemby has slightly more blocks (2.6 vs 2.2). I think right now Holmgreen is better than Wemby and should be ahead as ROY. Now this might still change although I don t think it will due to my previous efficiency concerns about Wemby.

Chet is playing next to SGA who commands the lionshare of the attention and sets him up for easier more efficient shots. Wemby is being defended as the defacto number 1 option and has...Jeremy Sochan feeding him the ball. Night and day difference.

Yep, just today SGA made Chet not miss a single shot while Sochan broke into Wemby's house at midnight and made him take and brick ten soft midrange Js.

[FarBeyondDriven]

I believe the Spurs are playing Wembanyama away from the basket (on both ends) intentionally so as to keep him healthy until he has the time to put on natural weight and then some which will help him withstand some of the banging that happens down low. This is bad for his efficiency and likely bad for the team short-term but it might be best for him long-term.

[Raps in 4]

He's a bust. Spurs should trade him.

[monopoman]

He's a bust. Spurs should trade him.

Yep, Wemby fire sale incoming here if anyone gives up a 1st round pick and a decent starter they get him.

[WestGOAT]

He's a bust. Spurs should trade him.

Yep, Wemby fire sale incoming here if anyone gives up a 1st round pick and a decent starter they get him.

Yup better trade him while he still has value, don't make the same mistake like GSW did with Wiseman

[Roy T]

He's averaging 19/9 and 3 blocks as a 19 year old rookie and people are calling him Andrea Bargnani and Bol Bol. That's hilarious. He has ROTY on lockdown with Chet Holmgren a distant second.

I said Manute Bol. Thats a huge difference.

Stat wise he comes close to a fusion of Bargnani and Bol and we have seen plenty of players peaking in their rookie season.

Let's talk again in three years.

[timO]

Time to name him wembrickyama

[Sixers in 4]

He's averaging 19/9 and 3 blocks as a 19 year old rookie and people are calling him Andrea Bargnani and Bol Bol. That's hilarious. He has ROTY on lockdown with Chet Holmgren a distant second.

How? Chet is averaging only 2PPG less on far far far better efficiency (55% vs 43%FG; 44% vs 28% 3PFG). They play the same amount of minutes. Wemby has slightly more blocks (2.6 vs 2.2). I think right now Holmgreen is better than Wemby and should be ahead as ROY. Now this might still change although I don t think it will due to my previous efficiency concerns about Wemby.

Chet is playing next to SGA who commands the lionshare of the attention and sets him up for easier more efficient shots. Wemby is being defended as the defacto number 1 option and has...Jeremy Sochan feeding him the ball. Night and day difference.

Chet is easily ROTY right now. That could change but voters aren't morons who are going to overlook every meaningful metric in favor of meaningless hype.

As far as Chet vs Victor you can see from their shot breakdowns that just setting aside everything else even on open to wide open looks Chet has been much more efficient and Wemby has struggled.

https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1641705/shots-dash

[JN61]

Yep he can't shoot. Maybe one day but for now he should refocus on doing mostly baskets from inside.

[JN61]

He's averaging 19/9 and 3 blocks as a 19 year old rookie and people are calling him Andrea Bargnani and Bol Bol. That's hilarious. He has ROTY on lockdown with Chet Holmgren a distant second.

How? Chet is averaging only 2PPG less on far far far better efficiency (55% vs 43%FG; 44% vs 28% 3PFG). They play the same amount of minutes. Wemby has slightly more blocks (2.6 vs 2.2). I think right now Holmgreen is better than Wemby and should be ahead as ROY. Now this might still change although I don t think it will due to my previous efficiency concerns about Wemby.

Chet is playing next to SGA who commands the lionshare of the attention and sets him up for easier more efficient shots. Wemby is being defended as the defacto number 1 option and has...Jeremy Sochan feeding him the ball. Night and day difference.

Also if Chet wasn't playing next to sga he would have way bigger role on offense and would probably have like 30% bigger role to score. Meaning he would probably be averaging something like 22-23 ppg currently... With most likely still way higher efficiency than wemby... Chet is elite shooter... Just look at those numbers. He can crash 10% on each category and still lead..

[Homer38]

He's averaging 19/9 and 3 blocks as a 19 year old rookie and people are calling him Andrea Bargnani and Bol Bol. That's hilarious. He has ROTY on lockdown with Chet Holmgren a distant second.

I said Manute Bol. Thats a huge difference.

Stat wise he comes close to a fusion of Bargnani and Bol and we have seen plenty of players peaking in their rookie season.

Let's talk again in three years.

defense matter....

[Homer38]

Yep he can't shoot. Maybe one day but for now he should refocus on doing mostly baskets from inside.

KD could not shoot in his rookie season too

[Gordon]

He was 30% 3pt shooter for 3 years running in Europe and people and somehow now surprised that he is stuggling.

His body is not made for playing 3-4 games a week. And it will rear its ugly end very quickly.