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Post#301 » by sunsbg » Sun Nov 19, 2023 10:42 pm

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sunsbg wrote:Monty is not exactly proving to be a great coach either with soon to be 2-12 record after a blow out loss. Anyone knows what's going on with that Duren guy who was putting big stats to start the season. Box-score says 'DNP-Coach decision'. Is he injured or already in the dog house ? :lol:

Duren (ankle) has been ruled out for Sunday's game against the Raptors.

Duren is in line to miss a fourth straight game.


Thanks. Posted it only because of the joke. Seriously though, sad to see ex-Suns suffer. Monty with a bad roster. Ayton being asked to set N screens on a possession for the Suns and 0 on the Blazers resulting in that transition state in the video. Mikal and Cam wearing those clown Nets unis.
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Re: Ayton: Post Suns Haters 

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Post#304 » by WeekapaugGroove » Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:10 pm

sunsbg wrote:Monty is not exactly proving to be a great coach either with soon to be 2-12 record after a blow out loss. Anyone knows what's going on with that Duren guy who was putting big stats to start the season. Box-score says 'DNP-Coach decision'. Is he injured or already in the dog house ?
Will be interesting to see what Detroit does the next 9-12 months. I think Monty is a good coach and culture setter BUT his style doesn't work with all players. Detroit needs to figure out the core young dudes who are bought in and then trade the others away and add a couple Monty vets.

Thompson looks like a keeper, Duren has a ton of upside. They really need Cade to take a leap from good to great. Ivey looks like he's in Monty's doghouse and probably someone they should trade.

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Re: Ayton: Post Suns Haters 

Post#305 » by bigfoot » Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:24 pm

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sunsbg wrote:Monty is not exactly proving to be a great coach either with soon to be 2-12 record after a blow out loss. Anyone knows what's going on with that Duren guy who was putting big stats to start the season. Box-score says 'DNP-Coach decision'. Is he injured or already in the dog house ?
Will be interesting to see what Detroit does the next 9-12 months. I think Monty is a good coach and culture setter BUT his style doesn't work with all players. Detroit needs to figure out the core young dudes who are bought in and then trade the others away and add a couple Monty vets.

Thompson looks like a keeper, Duren has a ton of upside. They really need Cade to take a leap from good to great. Ivey looks like he's in Monty's doghouse and probably someone they should trade.

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Post#306 » by WeekapaugGroove » Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:38 pm

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sunsbg wrote:Monty is not exactly proving to be a great coach either with soon to be 2-12 record after a blow out loss. Anyone knows what's going on with that Duren guy who was putting big stats to start the season. Box-score says 'DNP-Coach decision'. Is he injured or already in the dog house ?
Will be interesting to see what Detroit does the next 9-12 months. I think Monty is a good coach and culture setter BUT his style doesn't work with all players. Detroit needs to figure out the core young dudes who are bought in and then trade the others away and add a couple Monty vets.

Thompson looks like a keeper, Duren has a ton of upside. They really need Cade to take a leap from good to great. Ivey looks like he's in Monty's doghouse and probably someone they should trade.

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Ha yeah definitely straying from the topic but really at this point is there anything left to be said about DA?

We should all just let him live his best middie king life up in Portland.

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Post#307 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:52 pm

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WeekapaugGroove wrote:
sunsbg wrote:Monty is not exactly proving to be a great coach either with soon to be 2-12 record after a blow out loss. Anyone knows what's going on with that Duren guy who was putting big stats to start the season. Box-score says 'DNP-Coach decision'. Is he injured or already in the dog house ?
Will be interesting to see what Detroit does the next 9-12 months. I think Monty is a good coach and culture setter BUT his style doesn't work with all players. Detroit needs to figure out the core young dudes who are bought in and then trade the others away and add a couple Monty vets.

Thompson looks like a keeper, Duren has a ton of upside. They really need Cade to take a leap from good to great. Ivey looks like he's in Monty's doghouse and probably someone they should trade.

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Cade has always given me John Wall vibes. No shot, injury prone, jack-of-all-trades master-of-none. But TBH at this point I'd take the under on whether he ever makes an ASG.

Never liked Ivey. I liked Killian, but boy was I wrong about him. I liked Bagley, who looks like he could carve out a Montrezl Harrell-like role in the league. I also liked James Wiseman for about a week, but it seems like he'll be out of the league pretty soon. I think Duren is NBA starter material, though I like Mark Williams more.

Seems to me the only real keeper on that roster is Ausar Thompson, who's doing a decent Shawn Marion impression, albeit with worse shooting. They're in a similar position to the WIzards, whose only keeper is their rookie Coulibaly - at the bottom of their rebuilding cycle. Only team in a worse position is the Bulls, because they have a full tear-down ahead of them.... and probably the Blazers, since they first have to jettison this awful Scott/Simons/Shaedon/Ayton core.

.... Tangent time! If we're going this far, might as well look at the rest. There are plenty of teams in danger of having their recent rebuilds go down in flames: Hawks, Hornets, Grizz, Pelicans. There are veteran squads that are vulnerable to long-term downtrends when their aging vets collapse: Clippers, Warriors, Lakers and Suns. And other teams who are trapped in the middle between competing and rebuilding: Nets, Raptors, Jazz; arguably the Knicks, Kings, Pacers and Heat as well.

The only teams that appear set for the long-term are the Thunder and Spurs, and possibly also the Rockets and Magic. Arguably, the Celtics as well - though I'd think money becomes an issue at some point.

The NBA is funny, though. A year ago Memphis looked primed to contend for the foreseeable future, the Pels seemed ready to take flight, the Wolves looked DOA. 76ers seemed to be in a bad spot before the season started and Maxey took off. All sorts of things can cause a team's fortune to change in the NBA!
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Post#308 » by enigmatics » Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:54 pm

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WeekapaugGroove wrote:
sunsbg wrote:Monty is not exactly proving to be a great coach either with soon to be 2-12 record after a blow out loss. Anyone knows what's going on with that Duren guy who was putting big stats to start the season. Box-score says 'DNP-Coach decision'. Is he injured or already in the dog house ?
Will be interesting to see what Detroit does the next 9-12 months. I think Monty is a good coach and culture setter BUT his style doesn't work with all players. Detroit needs to figure out the core young dudes who are bought in and then trade the others away and add a couple Monty vets.

Thompson looks like a keeper, Duren has a ton of upside. They really need Cade to take a leap from good to great. Ivey looks like he's in Monty's doghouse and probably someone they should trade.

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LOL.

He's a TRASH head coach - nice man but anyone who capes up for him still is looney. Their ownership is definitely sweating bullets right now.
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Post#309 » by enigmatics » Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:00 pm

The funniest thing ever is catching up with the RipCity reddit and watching people ask why DA isn't getting the ball in the post. Like what player are they watching?
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Post#310 » by handsome salary » Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:41 pm

enigmatics wrote:The funniest thing ever is catching up with the RipCity reddit and watching people ask why DA isn't getting the ball in the post. Like what player are watching?

Year six and yet seeing a player with a rookie skill and mind set. Still mediocre at dribbling, passing, getting deep position, moves around the basket, 3 point shooting. Unbelievable. And every year more and more highly motivated big men come into the league pushing him further down the list.

Watching Nurkic grab a rebound, dribble it up the floor and start the offense really makes you notice how meh of a basketball player he is even with all that natural "talent". Hasn't learned much playing with cream of the crop like CP3, Book and KD.

Wonder what the boos are going to be like tomorrow night.
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Post#311 » by enigmatics » Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:55 pm

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enigmatics wrote:The funniest thing ever is catching up with the RipCity reddit and watching people ask why DA isn't getting the ball in the post. Like what player are watching?

Year six and yet seeing a player with a rookie skill and mind set. Still mediocre at dribbling, passing, getting deep position, moves around the basket, 3 point shooting. Unbelievable. And every year more and more highly motivated big men come into the league pushing him further down the list.

Watching Nurkic grab a rebound, dribble it up the floor and start the offense really makes you notice how meh of a basketball player he is even with all that natural "talent". Hasn't learned much playing with cream of the crop like CP3, Book and KD.

Wonder what the boos are going to be like tomorrow night.


I'll be curious to see. Again, the man literally sand bagged a championship window - so if they did boo him it would be deserved.

I still think he's going to be almost out of the league by the time his next contract comes up. He's that age old tale of a guy coasting on physical talent who simply doesn't care and doesn't have an inner circle to hold him accountable.

Btw, while Nurk can be awkward looking at times the dude largely plays with grit and cares about the fundamentals of basketball. It's a breath of fresh air at that position. Still a lot of games left, but if this continues the Suns turned that lazy sack of sh- Ayton into three quality/contributing players that as a sum are inarguably outperforming DA.
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Post#312 » by handsome salary » Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:38 pm

enigmatics wrote:I still think he's going to be almost out of the league by the time his next contract comes up. He's that age old tale of a guy coasting on physical talent who simply doesn't care and doesn't have an inner circle to hold him accountable.


I think it's guaranteed he's getting another contract. Even the bad teams need 2-3 center bodies on their roster. On a really good team he'll come off the bench.

Plus a guy who jogs up the court, plays below the rim and avoids physical contact is probably not going to be an injury risk type player. Since he plays like he's 35 now there will be no drop off to his game.
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Post#313 » by SlovenianDragon » Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:03 pm

enigmatics wrote:The funniest thing ever is catching up with the RipCity reddit and watching people ask why DA isn't getting the ball in the post. Like what player are watching?


I think what's most interesting is all the supposed suns fans that supposedly watched Ayton on the Suns for years who willfully ignore his flaws or thought his flaws would just magically disappear on a new team...

Ayton is on a trash team and he is a big piece of that garbage.
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Post#314 » by spanishninja » Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:31 pm

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enigmatics wrote:The funniest thing ever is catching up with the RipCity reddit and watching people ask why DA isn't getting the ball in the post. Like what player are watching?


I think what's most interesting is all the supposed suns fans that supposedly watched Ayton on the Suns for years who willfully ignore his flaws or thought his flaws would just magically disappear on a new team...

Ayton is on a trash team and he is a big piece of that garbage.


what's even more hilarious is that we ALL knew the Blazers would be garbage but somehow people thought Ayton would suddenly go ham with 25/12 just because "there is noone else to put up numbers", and now that we've seen him be ****, they're like "how can he put up numbers when nobody give him the ball".
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Post#315 » by Calvin Klein » Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:05 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:Ha yeah definitely straying from the topic but really at this point is there anything left to be said about DA?

We should all just let him live his best middie king life up in Portland.

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Post#316 » by Calvin Klein » Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:11 pm

Reading the Blazers board....and I'd rather not comment there, but man, it's like watching us from the outside. It's all the same comments "feed Ayton", "he needs to be motivated", "blame the coach", etc etc. I hope they realize quickly what they have. Glad it's not us anymore.
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Post#317 » by sunsbum » Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:12 pm

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SlovenianDragon wrote:
enigmatics wrote:The funniest thing ever is catching up with the RipCity reddit and watching people ask why DA isn't getting the ball in the post. Like what player are watching?


I think what's most interesting is all the supposed suns fans that supposedly watched Ayton on the Suns for years who willfully ignore his flaws or thought his flaws would just magically disappear on a new team...

Ayton is on a trash team and he is a big piece of that garbage.


what's even more hilarious is that we ALL knew the Blazers would be garbage but somehow people thought Ayton would suddenly go ham with 25/12 just because "there is noone else to put up numbers", and now that we've seen him be ****, they're like "how can he put up numbers when nobody give him the ball".

Even I thought he would put up 21/11/1.5 and I'm the leader of this clan.
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Post#318 » by sunsbum » Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:14 pm

I think most of us can agree, especially with Naz earning his way into the rotation JJ won this trade by a large margin.
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Post#319 » by WeekapaugGroove » Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:40 pm

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WeekapaugGroove wrote:Ha yeah definitely straying from the topic but really at this point is there anything left to be said about DA?

We should all just let him live his best middie king life up in Portland.

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Ha yeah that will be interesting. I expect Ayton to play well, this should actually motivate him for a night.


I expect he'll get boo'd but I've always thought no reaction at all is a sneaky slap in the face. The 'I don't even think of you' Don Draper reaction to a returning player.

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Post#320 » by Jdiddy701 » Mon Nov 20, 2023 10:56 pm

sunsbum wrote:I think most of us can agree, especially with Naz earning his way into the rotation JJ won this trade by a large margin.

I don’t think the Blazers had anything to lose trading for DA though. I wouldn’t label the trade as who won the deal, I think both teams got what they wanted. Portland also got Camara, so that’s a plus for them.


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