Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread

[ozwizard8]

In every trade scenario the Lakers podcasters talk about Rui Hachimura in the trade even though he keeps shooting lights out for the Lakers.
Rui Hachimura (25) 6'8"/230# ,15.7 million ... Jackson Hayes (23) 7'/220# , 2.1 million for Tim Hardaway Jr (31) 6'5"/205# , 17.9 million

Lakers lack scoring punch and Darvin Ham loves 3 guard lineups. With Vando coming back and Taurean Prince already starting you have 2 other forwards competing for minutes with Rui.
Rui who is shooting better than Grant Williams from 2pts /3pts and scoring more playing 9 minutes less in one of the slowest pace lineups is 2" taller.
C) Lively 7'1"
PF) Rui 6'8"
SF) DJJ 6'6"
PG) Kyrie 6'2"
PG) Luka 6'7"
Exum 6'5", Green 6'5", GWms 6'6", Hayes 7' ,Hardy 6'2" as the bench

G William is over DJJ anytime and twice on Sundays.

[Bob8]

If Mavs coaching could look at defensive stats, it would be obvious that DJJ and Exum should play as much as possible every game and that Powell should be buried deep on the bench. Play small ball or whatever just not play Powell and make a trade for another big as soon as possible. Powell minutes are killing Mavs. He has 125 defrtg. Far the best defensive team is Luka/Exum/DJJ/Grant/Lively.

[41Dirk41]

Beibau and others smart guys tell me all summer that Powell is a good backup C.

I hope you are all happy now. You deserved those 2 games. Well done.

[Bob8]

Beibau and others smart guys tell me all summer that Powell is a good backup C.

I hope you are all happy now. You deserved those 2 games. Well done.

It's not just for that 2 games, his Defrtg 125.2 is for all games played. And the difference between him and others is huge. Him, Josh and Hardy are the only ones with net negative rating. Josh and Hardy are probably collateral damage for playing too many minutes with Powell.

[Mavrelous]

If Mavs coaching could look at defensive stats, it would be obvious that DJJ and Exum should play as much as possible every game and that Powell should be buried deep on the bench. Play small ball or whatever just not play Powell and make a trade for another big as soon as possible. Powell minutes are killing Mavs. He has 125 defrtg. Far the best defensive team is Luka/Exum/DJJ/Grant/Lively.

Absolutely, with Powell, it's last year's defense, and there is no DFS from 2 years ago to help everyone, it works here and there, especially against small lineups, but whenever you face some size, or bruiser like Sabonis it's over.
With that said, yesterday, it was also bad with Lively, they kept up offensively until their legs gave away, defensively, too many offensive rebound after great defensive possessions, and to many last second drop offs.
I disagree on Hardy, he's a problem defensively, and isn't good offensively this year, Josh Green played well yesterday, but he's not a game changer defensively like DJJ.
I hope Maxi comes back healthy and willing to shoot, would help tremendously to have big forward.

[41Dirk41]

Lively is a 19yo rookie, he can't stop all star vet like Sabonis. Neither rookies Howard or Shaq probably could.

This the reason that we need another C, not the former worst starting C in the league and now the worst backup C.
Capela is our guy, i hope everybody finally understand.

[Maverick41]

Capela is our guy, i hope everybody finally understand.

Yes but how? Green ain't getting it done right now for sure. We actually need THJ. Hardy doesn't make sense since they set have 2 star guards + Bogi and Bufkin. Omax? They got Jalen Johnson, Hunter, Bey, and Griffin. So a FRP? I wouldn't send a FRP for a center that is clearly getting worse. I want Capela too but I'm not sure how unless we somehow get involved in the Siakam 3 way.

[41Dirk41]

Capela is our guy, i hope everybody finally understand.

Yes but how? Green ain't getting it done right now for sure. We actually need THJ. Hardy doesn't make sense since they set have 2 star guards + Bogi and Bufkin. Omax? They got Jalen Johnson, Hunter, Bey, and Griffin. So a FRP? I wouldn't send a FRP for a center that is clearly getting worse. I want Capela too but I'm not sure how unless we somehow get involved in the Siakam 3 way.

I'm not the well paid GM of Dallas Mavericks (otherwise Powell and Kleber certainly wouldn't have been re-signed ), he has to find a way.

Capela is a 29yo not a 40yo. He has at least 3/4 years of good basketball.
A FRP for him could be good, we don't have room for another rookie to develop. Mostly on the #20 draft range.

I don't know Capela injury update, if he is totally healthy i'm ok with him.
Luka plays like prime Harden and i remember how good was Capela with him.

[Bob8]

If Mavs coaching could look at defensive stats, it would be obvious that DJJ and Exum should play as much as possible every game and that Powell should be buried deep on the bench. Play small ball or whatever just not play Powell and make a trade for another big as soon as possible. Powell minutes are killing Mavs. He has 125 defrtg. Far the best defensive team is Luka/Exum/DJJ/Grant/Lively.

Absolutely, with Powell, it's last year's defense, and there is no DFS from 2 years ago to help everyone, it works here and there, especially against small lineups, but whenever you face some size, or bruiser like Sabonis it's over.
With that said, yesterday, it was also bad with Lively, they kept up offensively until their legs gave away, defensively, too many offensive rebound after great defensive possessions, and to many last second drop offs.
I disagree on Hardy, he's a problem defensively, and isn't good offensively this year, Josh Green played well yesterday, but he's not a game changer defensively like DJJ.
I hope Maxi comes back healthy and willing to shoot, would help tremendously to have big forward.

It wasn't good with Lively, he's just not strong enough, but Powell's defrtg yesterday was 157. And against Bucks 149. Far the worst in both occasions. Btw. Green had - 61 net rtg against Bucks.

[Maverick41]

Avidja + Gafford for Green + Holmes + 27 top 5 protected FRP.

We get much bigger, better defensively and both guys are young and also ready to compete. WAS gets their FRP they covet + try out Green.

[Bob8]

Avidja + Gafford for Green + Holmes + 27 top 5 protected FRP.

We get much bigger, better defensively and both guys are young and also ready to compete. WAS gets their FRP they covet + try out Green.

We could have Ayton without FRP, just another **** by our FO.

[Maverick41]

Avidja + Gafford for Green + Holmes + 27 top 5 protected FRP.

We get much bigger, better defensively and both guys are young and also ready to compete. WAS gets their FRP they covet + try out Green.

We could have Ayton without FRP, just another **** by our FO.

I'm not so sure on that anymore. Ayton is putting up career lows, showing zero heart and getting 35 mil per year. On the other hand THJ is probably one of the frontrunner for 6moy right now.

Who knows maybe we would have been better off with Ayton but his play in POR is not exactly making me feel bad about not having him.

[daoneandonly]

I'd be fine with Robin Lopez at this point, he's big and can rebound

Bob mentioned Green having one of the worst defensive ratings, the simple eye tests proves it too. The guy allows anyone he's "guarding" to blow past him. But soon enough our +/- expert who called him elite will chime in about why he's so great.

[Bob8]

I'd be fine with Robin Lopez at this point, he's big and can rebound

Bob mentioned Green having one of the worst defensive ratings, the simple eye tests proves it too. The guy allows anyone he's "guarding" to blow past him. But soon enough our +/- expert who called him elite will chime in about why he's so great.

All lineups with Powell have disastrous defensive ratings. Difficult to be totally accurate here about whose guilt is it. But it's true, eye test says that he's not particularly good, especially if we say that D is his strength. Still, problem is Powell not Josh. Powell should be benched immediately and FO should find someone, who's at least playable, because Powell isn't.

[Archx]

I'd be fine with Robin Lopez at this point, he's big and can rebound

Bob mentioned Green having one of the worst defensive ratings, the simple eye tests proves it too. The guy allows anyone he's "guarding" to blow past him. But soon enough our +/- expert who called him elite will chime in about why he's so great.

Since you're throwing subtle jabs at people all the time, this time you're targeting me, i'll just go all out on you this time. Mods apparently don't care, neither will i.

Fix your eye test aswell because it's apparently broken. You're clueless about anything and you need a reality check. How players are projected before the season and how players actually play during the season are 2 different things. We're not GM's and we're not scouts so we don't have inside knowledge, we can only assess players based on what we saw and stats we're reading. Unfortunately we know you don't have a clue about data and we know you don't know what you see during the game.

You thought Bullock had great last season and Green was a problem.

The fact that you think a rookie scale contract Josh Green is the main problem for Mavs (So far) says it all about you.

He was actually one of the better players last night and yet Mavs still comfortably lost. So another proof how your overall basketball knowledge is fundamentally broken. It's actually laughable at this point how horrible your takes are.

[Bob8]

We have to be honest here, Josh is not the reason for Mavs struggles but we have to admit that 2 players on minimum contracts outplayed him. He's for sure pretty big disappointment.

I could see that development positive, if FO finds a way to trade him for someone bigger, because DJJ and Exum cover his position pretty well and Mavs are desperately thin with bigs.

[41Dirk41]

We have to be honest here, Josh is not the reason for Mavs struggles but we have to admit that 2 players on minimum contracts outplayed him. He's for sure pretty big disappointment.

I could see that development positive, if FO finds a way to trade him for someone bigger, because DJJ and Exum cover his position pretty well and Mavs are desperately thin with bigs.

With Luka and Kyrie the best fit is a big body wing who can defend, rebound and make 3s... Everything else is a plus but those 3 skills are a must.

And of course another C, unless Holmes proves he can play 20/25 quality minutes, because Kleber is always injuried and Powell is a soft pussy.

[tleikheen]

I think the Wiz would part with Kuzma before Avidja ,not because of play but timeline . Right now they have Jones and Poole as their guards. A pkg of Hardy6'3" and Green 6'5" (at next yrs salary) plus Kleber for Kuzma 6'9" would completely change the Mavs on the court. Plugging him in place of DJJ who can pair up with Exum who will get much more minutes with Hardy and Green gone.

[Realtalk420]

I think the Wiz would part with Kuzma before Avidja ,not because of play but timeline . Right now they have Jones and Poole as their guards. A pkg of Hardy6'3" and Green 6'5" (at next yrs salary) plus Kleber for Kuzma 6'9" would completely change the Mavs on the court. Plugging him in place of DJJ who can pair up with Exum who will get much more minutes with Hardy and Green gone.

Yeah and you just think Washington accepts that? We would need to include a 1st. And then we would give them pretty much every asset we have to “upgrade” to him. And sure he would be a fit on offense, but we don’t need that, we need defense which he doens’t provide except for maybe rebounding.

[Realtalk420]

But realistically who are we targeting for the PF spot - big defender? A backup C is also a need but I think it is easier and cheaper to ugrade that, whereas big defenders who can shoot 3s are not really growing on trees.