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Re: Jett Howard assigned to G-League 

Post#61 » by Bensational » Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:44 am

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basketballRob wrote:I doubt that'll happen. He contributes too much with his defense. You make it sound like we're getting run out of the gym by playing him, which isn't true

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Somebody's going to get kicked from the rotation when Fultz comes back. And another when WCJ gets healthy. The harder one to guess might be between Mo and Goga (WCJ)...both have been really good.
Yeah, that's going to be interesting. I fear Black and Goga will drop back to DNP-CDs


There must be some kind of conversation happening between Fultz and management if they’re watching their young guys and know they’ll have to move some guys to free up minutes.

I wouldn’t be shocked if they moved him before the deadline to a team of his choice.

Goga going back to the deep bench would be such a waste of a good player. I genuinely think he’s been better than WCJ in his brief time as a starter.
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Re: Jett Howard assigned to G-League 

Post#62 » by pepe1991 » Tue Nov 21, 2023 6:40 am

yoyojw17 wrote:People just out here overreacting on the few minutes that a rookie is getting. Even if this seasonwas poor.... doesn't mean he still can't become more valuable than the other players that people are complaining that they wished they had just cuz they are doing well better at the moment.

Osceola will give him a place tosharpen his tools.


People in general love to overreact for stuff that happeneds in basketball on small sample.

NBA is such a league where making any strong conclusions without 20-30 even 40 games is pointless, because you play different teams who are at different points of their own buildup (or teardown) and you play on the road, at home, back to back, against back to back teams etc.

Jett Howard played 23 min of pro basketball in his life. He took 10 shots. What's there to even talk about?

It's too early to talk about Anthony Black (214 min, 45 shots) let alone Jett. Just to point out how silly this is, AB sits at 29% for 3. If he makes next 3 threes, he will "become 40% three point shooter"- but if he misses, he will become 25% three point shooter.

Those samples are so damn prone to massive changes that they are junk data for now.


We can argue and talk to oblivion about stuff we know about him from draft, for argument's sake, i thought he was overdrafted and 80% draft mocks didn't have him as lottery pick. But that doesn't matter now.

I also think we had no reason to actually keep a pick, yet here we are.

About G league. I'm not sure nba player can learn much from it. It's just mindless run & gun without cohesive structure. Basically bunch of players playing for themselfs in hope they can make actual nba roster.
But it's still better for him , at age of 20, to play some competitive game, than to sit at the end of a bench. However, you probably shouldn't keep him there forever, because that will probably hinder his trade value ( well, not playing will do the same, but if he struggles in G league as well, than you pretty much tanked his value as asset).
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Re: Jett Howard assigned to G-League 

Post#63 » by ogmagicfan » Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:17 am

I personally was more of a fan of Keyonte or Lively, but I can see the appeal with Jett, particularly if he builds on his ball handling which was better than all the "shooters" in that range outside of Keyonte

We just have to wait & see. Hopefully he can work his way into the rotation next season
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Re: Jett Howard assigned to G-League 

Post#64 » by Optimus_Steel » Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:49 pm

Jett showed in preseason he is going to be fine. The ones overreacting to garbage time minutes, the Magic were playing like a team that knew it was over, they were just trying to end it quickly and get it over with while Indy was trying to make up for a humiliating performance, I’m not putting too much stock into it. This assignment should be good for Jett.
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Re: Jett Howard assigned to G-League 

Post#65 » by TheChaser » Tue Nov 21, 2023 3:24 pm

Can’t wait to see what he does down there. I think he’s good. Just needs confidence booster. Hopefully him and Mac can kill it down there. Mac has looked beastly.
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Re: Jett Howard assigned to G-League 

Post#66 » by p0peye » Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:10 pm

pepe1991 wrote:I would argue there was never reason to keep that pick. This would happen to any other player drafted by us.


We shouldn't have been in a position to still lack starting PG on the roster. A lot of vets changed teams this offseason while our FO was sitting on their hands.
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Re: Jett Howard assigned to G-League 

Post#67 » by SloNick Russia » Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:31 pm

Howard is 21 and will turn 22 in spring, he is also 190 pounds, not likely to be a defensive force.
There is no way he would pass Harris in the rotation.
JJJ plays solid for the Heat but he is 22 and not exactly a great shooter.
Players are drafted to play 8 years for a team, 4 on rookie deal + extension. Its just not smart to label somebody a bust after 1 season.
Hope Jett gets it going for him and becomes a solid player for us at some point.

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Re: Jett Howard assigned to G-League 

Post#68 » by Knightro » Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:32 pm

davey_wavy wrote:Jett at 11 was us (Magic FO/Ownership) giving back to Michigan. Shouldnt have been the pick, everyone knows it, no one will admit it, and will constantly defend it (can't shoot because he gets no run).

Lively II
Keyonte
Hawkins
Even Gradey & Jaquez Jr

All these guys were better picks at 11. You draft the BPA. Jett CLEARLY wasn't that and you know it. Cant use a lottery pick on "needs". That's what late firsts & 2nd rounders are for.

I wish him luck in Osceola.


I promise you Michigan had nothing to do with it.

The Magic felt he was the BPA who also happened to fill a long-term need for shooting.

Call their evaluation wrong if you want, but that's all it was. Nothing more sinister than that.
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Re: Jett Howard assigned to G-League 

Post#69 » by eyriq » Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:44 pm

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davey_wavy wrote:Jett at 11 was us (Magic FO/Ownership) giving back to Michigan. Shouldnt have been the pick, everyone knows it, no one will admit it, and will constantly defend it (can't shoot because he gets no run).

Lively II
Keyonte
Hawkins
Even Gradey & Jaquez Jr

All these guys were better picks at 11. You draft the BPA. Jett CLEARLY wasn't that and you know it. Cant use a lottery pick on "needs". That's what late firsts & 2nd rounders are for.

I wish him luck in Osceola.


I promise you Michigan had nothing to do with it.

The Magic felt he was the BPA who also happened to fill a long-term need for shooting.

Call their evaluation wrong if you want, but that's all it was. Nothing more sinister than that.
The odds of BPA being a wolverine as frequently as it is for us has to be close to zero. There almost has to be some Michigan bias baked in.
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Re: Jett Howard assigned to G-League 

Post#70 » by pepe1991 » Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:58 pm

If you have list of prospects aveliable in front of you, and you come to conclusion that Jett Howard is best prospect... I have some questions :lol:
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Re: Jett Howard assigned to G-League 

Post#71 » by basketballRob » Tue Nov 21, 2023 6:16 pm

SloNick Russia wrote:Howard is 21 and will turn 22 in spring, he is also 190 pounds, not likely to be a defensive force.
There is no way he would pass Harris in the rotation.
JJJ plays solid for the Heat but he is 22 and not exactly a great shooter.
Players are drafted to play 8 years for a team, 4 on rookie deal + extension. Its just not smart to label somebody a bust after 1 season.
Hope Jett gets it going for him and becomes a solid player for us at some point.

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He just turned 20 on September 14th. I think you're looking at his brother's profile. Jett definitely weighs more than 190.

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Re: Jett Howard assigned to G-League 

Post#72 » by SloNick Russia » Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:04 pm

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SloNick Russia wrote:Howard is 21 and will turn 22 in spring, he is also 190 pounds, not likely to be a defensive force.
There is no way he would pass Harris in the rotation.
JJJ plays solid for the Heat but he is 22 and not exactly a great shooter.
Players are drafted to play 8 years for a team, 4 on rookie deal + extension. Its just not smart to label somebody a bust after 1 season.
Hope Jett gets it going for him and becomes a solid player for us at some point.

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He just turned 20 on September 14th. I think you're looking at his brother's profile. Jett definitely weighs more than 190.

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Yes, sorry, it was about Hawkins, he is 21 / 190

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Re: Jett Howard assigned to G-League 

Post#73 » by RichCollab » Wed Nov 22, 2023 6:53 pm

Jett is a year and half younger, 1-2 inches taller, and weighs 25 more pounds than Jordan Hawkins.

If Jett pan out, he continues that length and physical basketball we play.
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Re: Jett Howard assigned to G-League 

Post#74 » by yoyojw17 » Wed Nov 22, 2023 7:39 pm

RichCollab wrote:Jett is a year and half younger, 1-2 inches taller, and weighs 25 more pounds than Jordan Hawkins.

If Jett pan out, he continues that length and physical basketball we play.

yeah... i was about to say the same. lol

but on that note. Hope he plays tonight against Rio Grande!
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Post#75 » by jezzerinho » Wed Nov 22, 2023 8:36 pm

pepe1991 wrote:If you have list of prospects aveliable in front of you, and you come to conclusion that Jett Howard is best prospect... I have some questions :lol:


I have to agree and said it since before the draft. There are several players I'd have taken before him, Bufkin top of the list. Also would have looked at George, Lively, Hawkins and Colby Jones.
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Re: Jett Howard assigned to G-League 

Post#76 » by Fortune Teller » Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:35 pm

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davey_wavy wrote:Jett at 11 was us (Magic FO/Ownership) giving back to Michigan. Shouldnt have been the pick, everyone knows it, no one will admit it, and will constantly defend it (can't shoot because he gets no run).

Lively II
Keyonte
Hawkins
Even Gradey & Jaquez Jr

All these guys were better picks at 11. You draft the BPA. Jett CLEARLY wasn't that and you know it. Cant use a lottery pick on "needs". That's what late firsts & 2nd rounders are for.

I wish him luck in Osceola.


I promise you Michigan had nothing to do with it.

The Magic felt he was the BPA who also happened to fill a long-term need for shooting.

Call their evaluation wrong if you want, but that's all it was. Nothing more sinister than that.

I don’t think you can “promise” anything with this ownership group. If they really thought Jett was the best player available and he’s already in the G-League after missing every three he took, then hopefully they will admit how bad they are at this.

With the needs that this team has, it didn’t make any sense to keep both picks instead of adding a veteran. So now he’s chucking in Osceola. Poor use of a valuable lottery pick.
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Re: Jett Howard assigned to G-League 

Post#77 » by Knightro » Wed Nov 22, 2023 10:41 pm

Fortune Teller wrote:I don’t think you can “promise” anything with this ownership group. If they really thought Jett was the best player available and he’s already in the G-League after missing every three he took, then hopefully they will admit how bad they are at this.

With the needs that this team has, it didn’t make any sense to keep both picks instead of adding a veteran. So now he’s chucking in Osceola. Poor use of a valuable lottery pick.


He's 20 years old and he's under contract for the next 5 years minimum if the Magic want him to be.

The odds of all of the current players in front of him being here in two years is remarkably slim.

His time will come eventually and hopefully he's ready to take advantage of it when it does.
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Re: Jett Howard assigned to G-League 

Post#78 » by yoyojw17 » Wed Nov 22, 2023 11:17 pm

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Fortune Teller wrote:I don’t think you can “promise” anything with this ownership group. If they really thought Jett was the best player available and he’s already in the G-League after missing every three he took, then hopefully they will admit how bad they are at this.

With the needs that this team has, it didn’t make any sense to keep both picks instead of adding a veteran. So now he’s chucking in Osceola. Poor use of a valuable lottery pick.


He's 20 years old and he's under contract for the next 5 years minimum if the Magic want him to be.

The odds of all of the current players in front of him being here in two years is remarkably slim.

His time will come eventually and hopefully he's ready to take advantage of it when it does.

Yup.

And the use of the G-league is more of a rehab and training ground type of thing these days and not just a "demotion". Getting him minutes in meaningful play might be what they want him to see since if there isn't a blowout he won't see much of the court. let him go build confidence in a place where he knows his opportunity and not just randomly getting called up from the end of the bench.
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Re: Jett Howard assigned to G-League 

Post#79 » by RookieStar » Thu Nov 23, 2023 12:08 am

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Fortune Teller wrote:I don’t think you can “promise” anything with this ownership group. If they really thought Jett was the best player available and he’s already in the G-League after missing every three he took, then hopefully they will admit how bad they are at this.

With the needs that this team has, it didn’t make any sense to keep both picks instead of adding a veteran. So now he’s chucking in Osceola. Poor use of a valuable lottery pick.


He's 20 years old and he's under contract for the next 5 years minimum if the Magic want him to be.

The odds of all of the current players in front of him being here in two years is remarkably slim.

His time will come eventually and hopefully he's ready to take advantage of it when it does.

Yup.

And the use of the G-league is more of a rehab and training ground type of thing these days and not just a "demotion". Getting him minutes in meaningful play might be what they want him to see since if there isn't a blowout he won't see much of the court. let him go build confidence in a place where he knows his opportunity and not just randomly getting called up from the end of the bench.


Agreed. Remember we sent JI to play there as well before making him part of the regular team.
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Re: Jett Howard assigned to G-League 

Post#80 » by nymets1 » Thu Nov 23, 2023 1:56 am

Has anyone on here tried an Osceola Magic home game? I already been to the 1st 2 home games as I bought season ticket before the home opener. i guess the next Osceola Magic home game, I'll see Jett Howard play for Osceola Magic? You should go check out Mac Mcclung, he's going to make an NBA roster soon, Maybe Brandon Williams.
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