Wembanyama. I'm concerned

[GrandTheftRondo]

I don’t get what there is to be concerned about?

The Spurs seem content with allowing him to shoot a lot of jumpers despite not being good at it so he can grow there.

Will he ever become a KD level shooter? Most likely not. Was anyone ever claiming he was going to be? If so, they clearly hadn’t watched him pre NBA.

His ridiculous potential comes from his absurd size and wingspan.

Once he figures things out a little he won’t even need to be some amazing shooter. You can get him deep post catches, or catches on the run and nobody can block him.

He definitely is more raw than we probably expected but guess what? He’s 19!!!

Just wait til he figures out how to use his physical gifts properly.

[CobraCommander]

The concern with Wemby should be OKCs roster has a Comp for wemby in Chet PLUS SGA, Giddey, Dort and Joe and they gonna grow up together...and while they waiting on Wemby to mature and become an all time great - OKC has 2-4 all nba players maturing on the same team. Chet and SGA are great..but Giddey might be better than both of them-

[firedavidkahn]

The concern with Wemby should be OKCs roster has a Comp for wemby in Chet PLUS SGA, Giddey, Dort and Joe and they gonna grow up together...and while they waiting on Wemby to mature and become an all time great - OKC has 2-4 all nba players maturing on the same team. Chet and SGA are great..but Giddey might be better than both of them-

I think Giddey is actually a lot closer to his peak stats then many might want to believe. SGA and Chet are going to dominate and Jalen will also leapfrog Giddey.

Not saying that Giddey is near his peak at all... But his statistical peak isn't that much higher (while he is on OKC) now that he is the 4th banana on that team.

[GrandTheftRondo]

The concern with Wemby should be OKCs roster has a Comp for wemby in Chet PLUS SGA, Giddey, Dort and Joe and they gonna grow up together...and while they waiting on Wemby to mature and become an all time great - OKC has 2-4 all nba players maturing on the same team. Chet and SGA are great..but Giddey might be better than both of them-

Won’t matter eventually because they won’t be able to keep them all with how the CBA works

[CobraCommander]

The concern with Wemby should be OKCs roster has a Comp for wemby in Chet PLUS SGA, Giddey, Dort and Joe and they gonna grow up together...and while they waiting on Wemby to mature and become an all time great - OKC has 2-4 all nba players maturing on the same team. Chet and SGA are great..but Giddey might be better than both of them-

I think Giddey is actually a lot closer to his peak stats then many might want to believe. SGA and Chet are going to dominate and Jalen will also leapfrog Giddey.

Not saying that Giddey is near his peak at all... But his statistical peak isn't that much higher (while he is on OKC) now that he is the 4th banana on that team.

No matter how you say it...if they keep that core We should be concerned about Wemby....OKC seems have a bunch of guys that seem to be good players that will be great with even better attitudes about the game.

Giddey gets the call for the 3 to tie the game ! then SGA closes out the GSW in OT

And no one has a attitude about it at all- The previous iterations of the OKC young super team had a bunch of A-****S and this team doesn’t appear to have a single primadonna

[CobraCommander]

The concern with Wemby should be OKCs roster has a Comp for wemby in Chet PLUS SGA, Giddey, Dort and Joe and they gonna grow up together...and while they waiting on Wemby to mature and become an all time great - OKC has 2-4 all nba players maturing on the same team. Chet and SGA are great..but Giddey might be better than both of them-

Won’t matter eventually because they won’t be able to keep them all with how the CBA works

Why not....if Clippers can have the squad they have they can have OKC keep its stars...see GSW

[MAQ]

The concern with Wemby should be OKCs roster has a Comp for wemby in Chet PLUS SGA, Giddey, Dort and Joe and they gonna grow up together...and while they waiting on Wemby to mature and become an all time great - OKC has 2-4 all nba players maturing on the same team. Chet and SGA are great..but Giddey might be better than both of them-

I think Giddey is actually a lot closer to his peak stats then many might want to believe. SGA and Chet are going to dominate and Jalen will also leapfrog Giddey.

Not saying that Giddey is near his peak at all... But his statistical peak isn't that much higher (while he is on OKC) now that he is the 4th banana on that team.

No matter how you say it...if they keep that core We should be concerned about Wemby....OKC seems have a bunch of guys that seem to be good players that will be great with even better attitudes about the game.

Giddey gets the call for the 3 to tie the game ! then SGA closes out the GSW in OT

And no one has a attitude about it at all- The previous iterations of the OKC young super team had a bunch of A-****S and this team doesn’t appear to have a single primadonna

No one is a primadonna until they are.

What I mean by that is go back to that OKC team that lost in the finals...the big 3 and Serge...did they, at that time, have that reputation? Even an inkling of that reputation? James Harden was coming off the bench for that team despite being an MVP level talent. Yet, we're to believe he was too much of a primadonna to make the situation work?

No need to teardown the old guys to prop up the new ones. All 3 of those guys were model citizens when in OKC together. **** got funky after OKC wouldn't given Harden 2-3 million more per year on a contract extension offer.

[CobraCommander]

I think Giddey is actually a lot closer to his peak stats then many might want to believe. SGA and Chet are going to dominate and Jalen will also leapfrog Giddey.

Not saying that Giddey is near his peak at all... But his statistical peak isn't that much higher (while he is on OKC) now that he is the 4th banana on that team.

No matter how you say it...if they keep that core We should be concerned about Wemby....OKC seems have a bunch of guys that seem to be good players that will be great with even better attitudes about the game.

Giddey gets the call for the 3 to tie the game ! then SGA closes out the GSW in OT

And no one has a attitude about it at all- The previous iterations of the OKC young super team had a bunch of A-****S and this team doesn’t appear to have a single primadonna

No one is a primadonna until they are.

What I mean by that is go back to that OKC team that lost in the finals...the big 3 and Serge...did they, at that time, have that reputation? Even an inkling of that reputation? James Harden was coming off the bench for that team despite being an MVP level talent. Yet, we're to believe he was too much of a primadonna to make the situation work?

No need to teardown the old guys to prop up the new ones. All 3 of those guys were model citizens when in OKC together. **** got funky after OKC wouldn't given Harden 2-3 million more per year on a contract extension offer.

Disagree completely -

Everyone said - even back when Russ was young that he shot at a low % and shoots too many bad or contested shots when he is sitting next to KD- who is a 7 foot guy that shoots like Klay _. People complained then that either Russ is out of control and uncoachable or a prima Donna...hmmmm proved to be true

Harden played his role - but harden was partying too- especially on the road...people knew it...but he was young and they thought he would grow out of it....hmmm

KD seemed humble but real about the fact that he just wanted to “hoop” his way....but he went from being media darling to jerk overnight. It was like something happened...and it was obvious that he was not good with them letting harden walk for money and them letting Russ play uncoached...and without play by play accountability. KD was done with that


Juxtaposition this OKC team...did SGA or Chet seem pissed that G got the last shot...? Anything to tell you these guys games don’t mesh well and that all of them are working together?

I would say Russ’s stubbornness and desire to play stat rich low% losing basketball and The owner not spending on keeping harden plus KDs reluctance to be a leader and by default letting Russ lead led to their down fall.

I’m not tearing them down...they did that themselves

[Airmiess]

Fans dont understand that things are bound to change once scouting reports are made. Guys will get away with things for some time and then adjustments are made, its only natural. Also no young player is fully prepared for NBA speed … dont believe all that crap about “hes been a pro since 10 years old blah blah blah”

Ask Luka, Rubio, Jokic etc… NBA level conditioning will factor at some point.

Now Wemby has to find his counter moves and get to his spots on the floor quicker.

[The Laker Kid]

Dude, he's 19. He has tons of time to develop.

[tamaraw08]

KD could not shoot in his rookie season too

Durant could shoot in college. The physicality of NBA was too much for him initially. Wemby has never shown to be a shooter.

Wemby isn't Durant, but Durant isn't 7'5. They're different players. Wemby will be really good, but in a different way than Durant is really good. He'll need some time though.

My question is, is he more like Ralph Sampson with longer range or...... Jonathan Bender?
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[Moahst]

For about 2 years now the not so secret hot goss on Wemby is that he's got a lot of work to do on the offensive end. In this thread I think a lot of people are reconciling the hype with the reality that he's got some work to do. Defensively, he is as advertised. And it doesn't help that the Spurs have zero real vets or distributors on the team. But maybe that will lead to the Spurs drafting a stud that really elevates their rebuild.

[MoneyMo]

Just for reference, look at some of the names mentioned in this thread. Here are the numbers for LeBron and Durant in their first season.

LeBron: 42/29/75 with a 48.8 TS
Durant: 43/29/87 with a 51.9% TS

He's a rookie, relax.

Lebron and Durant's numbers were in a much different NBA. Lebron's in particular was FAR different. Just check the leading scorers from 2004. Everyone stunk with efficiency due to hand checking and the newly implemented zone defense. Hand checking was abolished after that year.

Lebron and KD as rookies in todays nba would light it up.

[Miami_Lux]

Just for reference, look at some of the names mentioned in this thread. Here are the numbers for LeBron and Durant in their first season.

LeBron: 42/29/75 with a 48.8 TS
Durant: 43/29/87 with a 51.9% TS

He's a rookie, relax.

Lebron and Durant's numbers were in a much different NBA. Lebron's in particular was FAR different. Just check the leading scorers from 2004. Everyone stunk with efficiency due to hand checking and the newly implemented zone defense. Hand checking was abolished after that year.

Lebron and KD as rookies in todays nba would light it up.

Good point. With the way the league has bent the rules to favor offensive players scoring 18-20 PPG on very low efficiency in today s NBA is no longer equivalent to the same 15 to 20 years ago

[Yoshun]

Just for reference, look at some of the names mentioned in this thread. Here are the numbers for LeBron and Durant in their first season.

LeBron: 42/29/75 with a 48.8 TS
Durant: 43/29/87 with a 51.9% TS

He's a rookie, relax.

Lebron and Durant's numbers were in a much different NBA. Lebron's in particular was FAR different. Just check the leading scorers from 2004. Everyone stunk with efficiency due to hand checking and the newly implemented zone defense. Hand checking was abolished after that year.

Lebron and KD as rookies in todays nba would light it up.

There's some truth there. The league average TS was much lower then and didn't start picking up until fairly recently. Wembanyama is further below the league average TS than LeBron and Durant were. However, keep in mind we are only 14 or 15 games into Wemby's career and those LeBron/Durant numbers are a whole season. It's likely Wemby will improve as the season goes on.

It's also important to note, one of the biggest criticisms of LeBron early in his career was that he wasn't a good shooter. It stuck with him well into the early part of his career ( when he was very effective anyway) until he turned it around later in his career. He struggled with his shot early on.

Durant was drafted in the 2007 draft, hand checking was already illegal by that time (made so prior the the start of the 04-05 season). Though the league average TS was still lower because teams still weren't shooting 3s like they do now.

There's no denying it's easier to score now, so let's look at a couple of newer guys off the top of my head:

Giannis: 41/35/68 with a 51.8 TS
Doncic:43/33/71 with a 54.5 TS( not awful, but not good)

Let's see where Wemby is after he gets a season under his belt. There's no denying his shot has to improve to have a productive career, but he's about 15 games in at this point.

[zimpy27]

The concern with Wemby should be OKCs roster has a Comp for wemby in Chet PLUS SGA, Giddey, Dort and Joe and they gonna grow up together...and while they waiting on Wemby to mature and become an all time great - OKC has 2-4 all nba players maturing on the same team. Chet and SGA are great..but Giddey might be better than both of them-

I think Giddey is actually a lot closer to his peak stats then many might want to believe. SGA and Chet are going to dominate and Jalen will also leapfrog Giddey.

Not saying that Giddey is near his peak at all... But his statistical peak isn't that much higher (while he is on OKC) now that he is the 4th banana on that team.

Giddey is not even 14 months older than Wemby.

How can either be near their peak?

[TheGeneral99]

I mean he's averaging 19ppg, 9rpg, 2.5apg and 2.6bpg as a rookie on subpar splits but as long as he's healthy he will continue to improve and get stronger.

[firedavidkahn]

The concern with Wemby should be OKCs roster has a Comp for wemby in Chet PLUS SGA, Giddey, Dort and Joe and they gonna grow up together...and while they waiting on Wemby to mature and become an all time great - OKC has 2-4 all nba players maturing on the same team. Chet and SGA are great..but Giddey might be better than both of them-

I think Giddey is actually a lot closer to his peak stats then many might want to believe. SGA and Chet are going to dominate and Jalen will also leapfrog Giddey.

Not saying that Giddey is near his peak at all... But his statistical peak isn't that much higher (while he is on OKC) now that he is the 4th banana on that team.

Giddey is not even 14 months older than Wemby.

How can either be near their peak?

I literally said Giddey isn't near his peak...

Due to him being 4th banana there won't be much opportunity to put up higher stats. He will continue to get better as a player but that might not be reflected in his stats due to being 4th banana

[zimpy27]

I think we should appreciate Wemby as a DPOY talent.

With a stronger playmaker leader I could see Wemby having a reduced offensive role (20ppg) and putting up 60%+ TS between lobs and occasional open 3s.

[SNPA]

I think we should appreciate Wemby as a DPOY talent.

With a stronger playmaker leader I could see Wemby having a reduced offensive role (20ppg) and putting up 60%+ TS between lobs and occasional open 3s.

DPOY candidate every year, starting now.

25-28ppg scorer on decent efficiency starting when they get a real PG and and clean up his shot diet.

Basically (of course barring injury) a walking MVP for 12-14 years.