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Post#1701 » by HaroldinGMinor » Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:24 pm

MikeIsGood wrote:Unclear on if Virginia is pulling a Virginia (they are quite prone to do so, as we know), or if this is actually a good performance. I haven't seen enough to tell either way.


Regardless of what UVA does on offense they always have a great D and UW made them look silly.
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Post#1702 » by MikeIsGood » Tue Nov 21, 2023 2:29 pm

Good to hear, guys. It was a legitimate question - I only caught about 10 minutes of the game :)
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Post#1703 » by RogerMurdock » Tue Nov 21, 2023 3:00 pm

Virginia has almost no inside game and Wisconsin figured that out. On defense, that means opponents get tons of offensive rebounds (Virginia is still able to limit paint points sometimes because they are good at blocking shots). On offense, that means defenders can plaster the shooters. Virginia had similar problems against Florida, but their perimeter defense wasn't as good, so Virginia's shooters could still get open looks.

You could see it last night - Virginia just kept passing around the outside, tried to dribble kick out, dribble kick out, but since there was no paint threat, Wisconsin didn't care about penetration and just stuck to the shooters. And on defense, the Virginia bigs weren't good at recovering after hedging, which I chalk up to lack of experience, so Wisconsin was getting a lot of easy cuts to the basket. Oh, and Groves isn't a real "big" - he's a stretch four who has no chance defensively down low.

It's going to be a problem all season, but it's not surprising, as all three of their bigs who were going to be in the rotation transferred and Bennett had to cobble something together through the portal. The freshman Buchanan is going to be good and he had a nice coming out party against Florida, but it's clear he has a ways to go.

Virginia has a good team and a few guys who are elite at what they do, but the lack of any real inside presence will severely limit this team's upside.
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Post#1704 » by Kerb Hohl » Tue Nov 21, 2023 3:05 pm

RogerMurdock wrote:Virginia has almost no inside game and Wisconsin figured that out. On defense, that means opponents get tons of offensive rebounds (Virginia is still able to limit paint points sometimes because they are good at blocking shots). On offense, that means defenders can plaster the shooters. Virginia had similar problems against Florida, but their perimeter defense wasn't as good, so Virginia's shooters could still get open looks.

You could see it last night - Virginia just kept passing around the outside, tried to dribble kick out, dribble kick out, but since there was no paint threat, Wisconsin didn't care about penetration and just stuck to the shooters. And on defense, the Virginia bigs weren't good at recovering after hedging, which I chalk up to lack of experience, so Wisconsin was getting a lot of easy cuts to the basket. Oh, and Groves isn't a real "big" - he's a stretch four who has no chance defensively down low.

It's going to be a problem all season, but it's not surprising, as all three of their bigs who were going to be in the rotation transferred and Bennett had to cobble something together through the portal. The freshman Buchanan is going to be good and he had a nice coming out party against Florida, but it's clear he has a ways to go.

Virginia has a good team and a few guys who are elite at what they do, but the lack of any real inside presence will severely limit this team's upside.


Probably a good matchup for the Badgers as well because Crowl gets abused by players that have a good inside game.

The portal is probably killing the seasons where Bennett/Bo/Gard/etc. fight their way into the tournament when they have a down year. They themselves either lose a little bit of continuity or 5-10 teams that usually Wisconsin/Virginia beat while they are down find a few transfers to knock them off the bubble.
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Post#1705 » by MikeIsGood » Thu Nov 23, 2023 1:52 am

I like Blackwell a lot.
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Post#1706 » by jute2003 » Thu Nov 23, 2023 2:03 am

Took a minute for them to adjust to the style of play that smu wants. I have a hard time believing smu can maintain this intensity all game but kudos to them if they can. Seems like they are trying to be physical with the wrong guys on uw.
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Post#1707 » by jute2003 » Thu Nov 23, 2023 2:04 am

MikeIsGood wrote:I like Blackwell a lot.
That kid is fun to watch.
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Post#1708 » by midranger » Thu Nov 23, 2023 2:11 am

MikeIsGood wrote:I like Blackwell a lot.

I like Blackwell the only.
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Post#1709 » by Kerb Hohl » Thu Nov 23, 2023 2:27 am

What the hell happened to Klesmit, Essegian, Chucky shooting? They’re playing “fine” if they could hit some shots. Kind of the story of the year, some of it is defense, but teams bombing 3s on the Badgers, decent Wisconsin shooters can’t hit any.
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Post#1710 » by Mtsportsfan » Thu Nov 23, 2023 2:43 am

Pull Chuck now , looks like has lost confidence !
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Post#1711 » by Kerb Hohl » Thu Nov 23, 2023 2:54 am

Make a **** 3. Please.
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Post#1712 » by Mtsportsfan » Thu Nov 23, 2023 2:56 am

Kerb Hohl wrote:Make a **** 3. Please.


Back to the bad badgers that can't shoot ! Virginia game was nice!
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Post#1713 » by jute2003 » Thu Nov 23, 2023 3:14 am

Blackwell is bound to have some freshman wtf's this year but holy ****
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Post#1714 » by Mtsportsfan » Thu Nov 23, 2023 3:31 am

Chuck catching fire ! Good to see ! Storr with a monster dunk !
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Post#1715 » by MikeIsGood » Thu Nov 23, 2023 3:33 am

By the time end of game/fouls play out, we're going to get close to putting up as many points in the last 10 minutes as we did in the first 30. Currently 37-27.
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Post#1716 » by Mtsportsfan » Thu Nov 23, 2023 3:34 am

Blackwell has a nice stroke from the line ! Nice to see!
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Post#1717 » by jute2003 » Thu Nov 23, 2023 3:34 am

I am in awe of blackwell
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Post#1718 » by Mtsportsfan » Thu Nov 23, 2023 3:40 am

Nice comeback win ! Finished strong !
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Post#1719 » by MikeIsGood » Thu Nov 23, 2023 3:41 am

Good for them. Big turnaround the last 10 minutes to take control.
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Post#1720 » by ReasonablySober » Thu Nov 23, 2023 3:44 am

Last three minutes have been the only minutes I've watched this season. Sounds like they have a dude in Blackwell? What kind of player is he?

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