Shams: NBA is looking into allegations of Josh Giddey having inappropriate relationship with a minor

[eyeatoma]

Fact. 15 year old boys can physically rape, by force, 99% of the women they would try it on. by the laws of all 50 states they both are committing rape if that was to occur.

Fact. Girls mature faster than boys physically.

Fact. Consent laws were put in place to control young WOMEN and protect their virginity for their wealthy usually white families. They were used to control women, not men of that age, but only women. These laws were not enforced on older woman with young men. There is a womans rights element to these laws.

Fact. Kids in general mature faster now then in those times these laws were written.

Fact. There NO EXCEPTIONS for statutory rape.

Opinion. This is an interesting topic for me as the father of 4 daughters age 13-22 hearing the mindboggling stories that have been told by them of wtf is going on around them over the last decade. Theres a hell of alot of gray in these things that the law doesnt account for in our modern age. To me this is kind of sad if he loses his career over it

So if a 21 year old had sex with your 15 year old daughter you would have no worries about that?

if my 15 yo had a fake id made and went into a bar and an off duty cop checks her in..... and then she predates on some unsuspecting college kid and gets drunk as hell with him....and then **** him and posts on social media about it..... then no i would not have a problem with the poor victim in this case... the boy

there are great examples of older male predator situations where that mfer needs to get locked up and they throw away the key. what i just described aint that

to me if minors can be charged as an adult if they whack somebodys ass. then i think there needs to be exceptions with underage sex the same way there is with murder so people can use their damn common sense about it when "a minor" is hunting sex with premediation and verifiable deceit with unsuspecting adults. that kind of makes them...adults

obviously if a grown ass minor, male or female.....physically assaults and rapes/seduces an adult sexually then the idea statutory rape also occurs is **** absurd. thats the way these laws are written and its nuts. there is no common sense being applied. if "the predator" has no idea a crime is occurring, or is literally the vitim of the crime, and the victim is searching it even precipitating it or forcing it.... then wtf

Is that what happened with Giddey?

Giddey is apparently dating this girl.

[eyeatoma]

Josh Giddey Fiddler

Josh Diddler

Guys.. this isn't Reddit

Lol with the takes on this forum you could have fooled me...

[Optms]

My bro said in high school prom, one of the hottest girls in their batch who was 17 at that time came with her 24 yr old BF and no one batted an eye. Lol

Lets just point out the elephant in the room no one brings up. Thousands of underage girls currently date/see thousands of dudes way past 18 years old, and they're all currently in the US. I've seen it happen and still see it. Most of these dudes aren't much older than 21 the majority of the time though. Which is probably why either no one makes a case of it or these couples look the same age, so no one notices it. But it happens. And it happens way more than we want to admit.

[CobraCommander]

He's cooked.

Saw it on Reddit....they kinda got all the evidence needed - the age- the act...all documented by her with his unmistakable satisfied smiling face-

Only chance is he has is a technicality on if the age difference makes this not illegal OR somehow he can prove she fooled him intentionally about her age AND the govt believes his excuse...


Man I was on board with OKCs future but this is bigger than ball....

I saw on reddit that the girl just turned 18 making her 17 last year when this supposedly took place.

As I said before, not great… but a 17 and 19/20 year old hooking up happens every day.

Then moving on...thanks bro for the facts

[Bornstellar]

Wasn't the girl bragging about having sex with him? I think there is a spectrum between "inappropriate sexual relations" and straight up "rape".

Children cannot fully comprehend the weight of their actions. The fact that some of you don't get this is sad

That some of you cannot comprehend that while the law may draw a bright line between 15 years 11months 364 days 23 hours 59 minutes and 16 years, the reality outside of that is that there isn't that much difference at all is sad.

Usually the law is only invoked when someone with standing files a complaint. There is a reason for that. There's also a reason many people find the anti-abortion laws so repugnant despite the general halo that surrounds the idea of being "pro-life".

Huh? TF are you talking about? Are you defending people that take advantage of underage girls?

I have not made any specific comments about Giddey because we don't know the full story yet. What I am tired of is people in here trying to defend this s*** like it's totally cool or normal for 21+ adult men to date girls 16 and under. It isn't, regardless of whatever mental gymnastics you have to do to justify it

[CobraCommander]

Josh Diddler

Guys.. this isn't Reddit

Lol with the takes on this forum you could have fooled me...

Embiid ain’t the MVP...but yeah some of the takes crazy

[Big J]

My bro said in high school prom, one of the hottest girls in their batch who was 17 at that time came with her 24 yr old BF and no one batted an eye. Lol

Lets just point out the elephant in the room no one brings up. Thousands of underage girls currently date/see thousands of dudes way past 18 years old, and they're all currently in the US. I've seen it happen and still see it. Most of these dudes aren't much older than 21 the majority of the time though. Which is probably why either no one makes a case of it or these couples look the same age, so no one notices it. But it happens. And it happens way more than we want to admit.

Still don't make it legal. Lots of people break laws daily. Law enforcement needs to go hard after public guys like Giddy to make a point to all of the other pedo's trying this ****.

[Drakeem]

Fact. 15 year old boys can physically rape, by force, 99% of the women they would try it on. by the laws of all 50 states they both are committing rape if that was to occur.

Fact. Girls mature faster than boys physically.

Fact. Consent laws were put in place to control young WOMEN and protect their virginity for their wealthy usually white families. They were used to control women, not men of that age, but only women. These laws were not enforced on older woman with young men. There is a womans rights element to these laws.

Fact. Kids in general mature faster now then in those times these laws were written.

Fact. There NO EXCEPTIONS for statutory rape.

Opinion. This is an interesting topic for me as the father of 4 daughters age 13-22 hearing the mindboggling stories that have been told by them of wtf is going on around them over the last decade. Theres a hell of alot of gray in these things that the law doesnt account for in our modern age. To me this is kind of sad if he loses his career over it

So if a 21 year old had sex with your 15 year old daughter you would have no worries about that?

if my 15 yo had a fake id made and went into a bar and an off duty cop checks her in..... and then she predates on some unsuspecting college kid and gets drunk as hell with him....and then **** him and posts on social media about it..... then no i would not have a problem with the poor victim in this case... the boy

there are great examples of older male predator situations where that mfer needs to get locked up and they throw away the key. what i just described aint that

to me if minors can be charged as an adult if they whack somebodys ass. then i think there needs to be exceptions with underage sex the same way there is with murder so people can use their damn common sense about it when "a minor" is hunting sex with premediation and verifiable deceit with unsuspecting adults. that kind of makes them...adults

obviously if a grown ass minor, male or female.....physically assaults and rapes/seduces an adult sexually then the idea statutory rape also occurs is **** absurd. thats the way these laws are written and its nuts. there is no common sense being applied. if "the predator" has no idea a crime is occurring, or is literally the vitim of the crime, and the victim is searching it even precipitating it or forcing it.... then wtf

Yeah, while I still think what Giddey did is messed up if true, we really need to start giving out punishments to the establishments that allow minors to enter a place that is age restricted.

If I'm at a place that's 18 or 21+, checked your "ID", and everything checks out, some responsibility has to be held by the place where it happened. It's your job to make sure that adults are partying with adults. How is a normal civilian going to be able to tell what a fake ID looks like if the person whose literal job it is doesn't do it?

[Optms]

My bro said in high school prom, one of the hottest girls in their batch who was 17 at that time came with her 24 yr old BF and no one batted an eye. Lol

Lets just point out the elephant in the room no one brings up. Thousands of underage girls currently date/see thousands of dudes way past 18 years old, and they're all currently in the US. I've seen it happen and still see it. Most of these dudes aren't much older than 21 the majority of the time though. Which is probably why either no one makes a case of it or these couples look the same age, so no one notices it. But it happens. And it happens way more than we want to admit.

Still don't make it legal. Lots of people break laws daily. Law enforcement needs to go hard after public guys like Giddy to make a point to all of the other pedo's trying this ****.

Is the girl actually 15 though? That needs to be established first before making an example out of anyone.

[Marvin Martian]

You made it sound like Giddey is the minor and couldn't think. If she was so desperate for attention then maybe he shouldn't have a relationship with her especially if he knew she was a minor.

No. She is the minor and I am suggesting that she acts like one before she ends up making a terrible mistake.

Again, you can lock up Giddey for life, and it won't keep her safe from creeps if she continues to sell herself on social media and seek validation (if the videos circulating around is the same girl he slept with). Making spicy content, sleeping with a older man and then bragging about it is not a good look for a 16 year old girl

Kids aren't supposed to be smart, that's why it's our responsibility to protect them, not have sex with them

They are also not supposed to be on tiktok acting like a hoe. And it's not "our" responsibility to protect and take care of them; it's her parents. The law is there to punish criminals, not protect citizens.

[Ice Trae]

All could have been avoided if he just had a milf fetish instead

[Big J]

No. She is the minor and I am suggesting that she acts like one before she ends up making a terrible mistake.

Again, you can lock up Giddey for life, and it won't keep her safe from creeps if she continues to sell herself on social media and seek validation (if the videos circulating around is the same girl he slept with). Making spicy content, sleeping with a older man and then bragging about it is not a good look for a 16 year old girl

Kids aren't supposed to be smart, that's why it's our responsibility to protect them, not have sex with them

They are also not supposed to be on tiktok acting like a hoe. And it's not "our" responsibility to protect and take care of them; it's her parents. The law is there to punish criminals, not protect citizens.

No one should be looking at a 15 year old child regardless of how she's acting. Stop blaming the child and protecting the pedos.

[Phreak50]

Wouldn't this be considered a legal relationship between two consenting adults?

15?

I dont like setting a specific age to determine if a person is adult or not. Some become adult before that age, some become adult much after that age.

A 15 year old cannot give consent. That’s the point.

Anyone found guilty of such an act can, according to Google stating the law, be locked up for 4 months to 6 years.

[turnaroundJ]

These threads always bring out the creeps, I swear

is someone a "creep" because they don't agree with you? what points here make you consider people as creeps?

Gee maybe the guy who stated some underage girls are actually adults? Or the others insinuating banging a 15 year old isnt a big deal or that some underage kids actually are the seductors?

The fact that you don't see that is creepy tells me you're one of them

So…People’s views don’t match mine. Therefore they are creeps.

[Bornstellar]

is someone a "creep" because they don't agree with you? what points here make you consider people as creeps?

Gee maybe the guy who stated some underage girls are actually adults? Or the others insinuating banging a 15 year old isnt a big deal or that some underage kids actually are the seductors?

The fact that you don't see that is creepy tells me you're one of them

So…People’s views don’t match mine. Therefore they are creeps.

So...you think those are normal views. Yep, you should also be on a watchlist

[Big J]

is someone a "creep" because they don't agree with you? what points here make you consider people as creeps?

Gee maybe the guy who stated some underage girls are actually adults? Or the others insinuating banging a 15 year old isnt a big deal or that some underage kids actually are the seductors?

The fact that you don't see that is creepy tells me you're one of them

So…People’s views don’t match mine. Therefore they are creeps.

You sound like a pedo bro. I hope you realize that.

[turnaroundJ]

Gee maybe the guy who stated some underage girls are actually adults? Or the others insinuating banging a 15 year old isnt a big deal or that some underage kids actually are the seductors?

The fact that you don't see that is creepy tells me you're one of them

So…People’s views don’t match mine. Therefore they are creeps.

You sound like a pedo bro. I hope you realize that.

1. Haven’t mentioned any of my views on any of these issues on this thread
2. Do you know what pedophilia victims look like?

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

Kids aren't supposed to be smart, that's why it's our responsibility to protect them, not have sex with them

They are also not supposed to be on tiktok acting like a hoe. And it's not "our" responsibility to protect and take care of them; it's her parents. The law is there to punish criminals, not protect citizens.

No one should be looking at a 15 year old child regardless of how she's acting. Stop blaming the child and protecting the pedos.

if a 15 year old child is banging another 15 yo child and the parents try to end it but one of the 15 yos cuts the moms head off before they kill the father does your post mean youd be all about juvey instead of life imprisonment?

or are there situations where a 15 yo's behavior in other cases theyd be treated like an adult? like with mudrering people then all of a sudden an adult....but consenting sex still a minor?

i dont know man. lots of gray here. cant take it out either

[Phreak50]

Usually the law is only invoked when someone with standing files a complaint..

This is utter bs.

If two people are hiding their relations sure.

But the law does not care if the child thinks it’s ok.

The law says a child cannot make that decision.

The adult is guilty of sexual assault.

[Rainwater]

This thread won't last long