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Re: Giddey in trouble 

Post#281 » by KembaWalker » Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:11 am

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They are also not supposed to be on tiktok acting like a hoe. And it's not "our" responsibility to protect and take care of them; it's her parents. The law is there to punish criminals, not protect citizens.


No one should be looking at a 15 year old child regardless of how she's acting. Stop blaming the child and protecting the pedos.


Pedophiles will always exist. Again the law is not there to protect kids, it is to punish Pedophiles for sleeping with kids. Big difference. If she wants to be protected, it's starts at home, not in court.

I bet 100% that not every kid at the child's school is doing this, so why can't we lay blame on the child? Why can't we lay blame on the parents?

If nothing is done at home, she will sleep with another older man.


I wonder what made some of you guys like this
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Re: Shams: NBA is looking into allegations of Josh Giddey having inappropriate relationship with a minor 

Post#282 » by RookieStar » Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:13 am

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He’s a third year NBA player, she’s like a sophomore in high school, lol.

Sounds terrible when you frame it like that but ultimately it's just reductive. You don't know enough about the circumstances to draw an informed conclusion.


An 15 yo girl tells her mother she is pregnant for 2 months. The mother said who is the pig that did this to you? The girl makes a phone call, a half an hour later a 21 yo 3rd year NBA player shows up in a Ferrari. He comes in and sits with the parents and says he is aware of the situation. He says he can't marry her but will provide. He says if a girl is born, she will get 1 million dollars and 2 retail stores, if a boy is born, he will get 2 million dollar and 2 factories. In case of a miscarriage what shall I do? The father puts his hand on the young mans shoulder and says then you try again.

sorry a bit horrible but this joke came to mind :lol:


Dude you got this from 9GAG didnt you?
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Re: Giddey in trouble 

Post#283 » by Optms » Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:13 am

KembaWalker wrote:
Marvin Martian wrote:
Big J wrote:
No one should be looking at a 15 year old child regardless of how she's acting. Stop blaming the child and protecting the pedos.


Pedophiles will always exist. Again the law is not there to protect kids, it is to punish Pedophiles for sleeping with kids. Big difference. If she wants to be protected, it's starts at home, not in court.

I bet 100% that not every kid at the child's school is doing this, so why can't we lay blame on the child? Why can't we lay blame on the parents?

If nothing is done at home, she will sleep with another older man.


I wonder what made some of you guys like this


He's got a point though. Bunch of underage chicks and dudes on Tiktok as we speak posting junk content that attracts the wrong attention. I'm not blaming the kid though, but the parents are obviously failures here if you have a 16 year old daughter shaking her ass all over social media.

IE blame the parents. Its starts at the top.
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Re: Shams: NBA is looking into allegations of Josh Giddey having inappropriate relationship with a minor 

Post#284 » by RookieStar » Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:13 am

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
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sfernald wrote:
He’s a third year NBA player, she’s like a sophomore in high school, lol.

Sounds terrible when you frame it like that but ultimately it's just reductive. You don't know enough about the circumstances to draw an informed conclusion.


An 15 yo girl tells her mother she is pregnant for 2 months. The mother said who is the pig that did this to you? The girl makes a phone call, a half an hour later a 21 yo 3rd year NBA player shows up in a Ferrari. He comes in and sits with the parents and says he is aware of the situation. He says he can't marry her but will provide. He says if a girl is born, she will get 1 million dollars and 2 retail stores, if a boy is born, he will get 2 million dollar and 2 factories. In case of a miscarriage what shall I do? The father puts his hand on the young mans shoulder and says then you try again.

sorry a bit horrible but this joke came to mind :lol:


Dude you got this from 9GAG didnt you?
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Re: Shams: NBA is looking into allegations of Josh Giddey having inappropriate relationship with a minor 

Post#285 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:16 am

RookieStar wrote:
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
Spates wrote:Sounds terrible when you frame it like that but ultimately it's just reductive. You don't know enough about the circumstances to draw an informed conclusion.


An 15 yo girl tells her mother she is pregnant for 2 months. The mother said who is the pig that did this to you? The girl makes a phone call, a half an hour later a 21 yo 3rd year NBA player shows up in a Ferrari. He comes in and sits with the parents and says he is aware of the situation. He says he can't marry her but will provide. He says if a girl is born, she will get 1 million dollars and 2 retail stores, if a boy is born, he will get 2 million dollar and 2 factories. In case of a miscarriage what shall I do? The father puts his hand on the young mans shoulder and says then you try again.

sorry a bit horrible but this joke came to mind :lol:


Dude you got this from 9GAG didnt you?


i think i saw it on facebook a couple weeks ago or some place and thought it applied so found it again on a google search. obviously added the nba reference

bad joke but its a message forum so wtf....lets hope this story makes some sense when the facts come to light
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Re: Shams: NBA is looking into allegations of Josh Giddey having inappropriate relationship with a minor 

Post#286 » by enigmatics » Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:31 am

sfernald wrote:
Spates wrote:It's like people here have never heard of moral relativism. Let's judge these things based on significant details before we presume someone is a creep and predator. They are close enough in age to give the Giddey a break. He's very much still a kid.

By no means does being 20 mean you're more mature than a 17 year old. The optics are weird, but it's nothing more.


He’s a third year NBA player, she’s like a sophomore in high school, lol.


Again a multi million dollar 3 year NBA professional on top of all that. Rolling with a teenage girl and an UNDERAGE one is absurdly uncalibrated and downright predatory. It shouldn't even be a considering in his head.

It's not like he's the only younger guy on the team who just hasnt adjusted well - the average age is 23. They got plenty of thots and groupies around their age.

We def got some people on this thread (not you) who I hope are not allowed within 1000ft of teenagers. The types who sympathize with pedos insisting they be called "minor attracted people".
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Re: Giddey in trouble 

Post#287 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:33 am

Optms wrote:
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Marvin Martian wrote:
Pedophiles will always exist. Again the law is not there to protect kids, it is to punish Pedophiles for sleeping with kids. Big difference. If she wants to be protected, it's starts at home, not in court.

I bet 100% that not every kid at the child's school is doing this, so why can't we lay blame on the child? Why can't we lay blame on the parents?

If nothing is done at home, she will sleep with another older man.


I wonder what made some of you guys like this


He's got a point though. Bunch of underage chicks and dudes on Tiktok as we speak posting junk content that attracts the wrong attention. I'm not blaming the kid though, but the parents are obviously failures here if you have a 16 year old daughter shaking her ass all over social media.

IE blame the parents. Its starts at the top.


100 years ago it was the parents that put the consent laws in because they couldnt control their daughters. for that matter their sons either but nobody cares about that. bottom line for some girls the only way youre gonna shut this **** down is a chastity belt and if a dudes 20 something or younger, when it comes to ass.... he most likely doesnt have a lick of self control yet either.

i think these laws intent obviously are good but honestly the judges need more discretion. there is alot of gray in some of these situations and i think intent and circumstances needs to be taken into account. also....what about in some states you can be married with parental consent as young as 14... then in others you can get locked up for pinning a 17 year old with a fake id. the laws dont make sense and are inconsistent as hell and i dont think this is all "on the parents". these kids all think were dumb as hell and dont have a clue. theyre gonna do what theyre gonna do and by middle school their friends have a bigger influence
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Re: Shams: NBA is looking into allegations of Josh Giddey having inappropriate relationship with a minor 

Post#288 » by zimpy27 » Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:33 am

sfernald wrote:
jordanwilliams6 wrote:It will be interesting to find out the facts when this all comes out. Keep in mind that the laws vary in each state and in each country.

In Australia (where Giddey has spent the majority of his life), the legal age of consent is 16. So for example, if he was 19 and she was 16 in Australia then it’s perfectly legal and would happen quite regularly. I’m assuming this is not the case in California which means he could be in for world of hurt.


He’s gotta know the laws of the country and (in US) the state where he is. There’s certain countries like Myanmar that have the death penalty for selling a joint for example. My thought is he knew but he thought he was above it all. The rich and famous rarely face any repercussions for their actions.


In California the punishment for being 19 and with a 16 year old is a misdemeanor and a $10,000 fine.

Similar punishment for vandalism, like spray painting, etc
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Re: Shams: NBA is looking into allegations of Josh Giddey having inappropriate relationship with a minor 

Post#289 » by VFX » Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:37 am

A few questions before passing judgement.

When was this relationship?
How old was he at the time?
How old was she at the time?

I question when allegations come up like this out of nowhere with professional athletes. Need all the information but he’s not out of the clear.
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Re: Shams: NBA is looking into allegations of Josh Giddey having inappropriate relationship with a minor 

Post#290 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:39 am

zimpy27 wrote:
sfernald wrote:
jordanwilliams6 wrote:It will be interesting to find out the facts when this all comes out. Keep in mind that the laws vary in each state and in each country.

In Australia (where Giddey has spent the majority of his life), the legal age of consent is 16. So for example, if he was 19 and she was 16 in Australia then it’s perfectly legal and would happen quite regularly. I’m assuming this is not the case in California which means he could be in for world of hurt.


He’s gotta know the laws of the country and (in US) the state where he is. There’s certain countries like Myanmar that have the death penalty for selling a joint for example. My thought is he knew but he thought he was above it all. The rich and famous rarely face any repercussions for their actions.


In California the punishment for being 19 and with a 16 year old is a misdemeanor and a $10,000 fine


makes sense. if a girl is old enough to get pregnant and terminate the pregnancy without parental consent then she should be able to choose the father without interference as well
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Re: Shams: NBA is looking into allegations of Josh Giddey having inappropriate relationship with a minor 

Post#291 » by NO-KG-AI » Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:41 am

The amount of guys in this thread that want it to be ok for adults to bang high school kids is alarming to say the least.
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Re: Shams: NBA is looking into allegations of Josh Giddey having inappropriate relationship with a minor 

Post#292 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:43 am

NO-KG-AI wrote:The amount of guys in this thread that want it to be ok for adults to bang high school kids is alarming to say the least.

literally nobody is suggesting that
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Re: Shams: NBA is looking into allegations of Josh Giddey having inappropriate relationship with a minor 

Post#293 » by NO-KG-AI » Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:44 am

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
NO-KG-AI wrote:The amount of guys in this thread that want it to be ok for adults to bang high school kids is alarming to say the least.

literally nobody is suggesting that


Lmao
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Re: Shams: NBA is looking into allegations of Josh Giddey having inappropriate relationship with a minor 

Post#294 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:45 am

NO-KG-AI wrote:
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
NO-KG-AI wrote:The amount of guys in this thread that want it to be ok for adults to bang high school kids is alarming to say the least.

literally nobody is suggesting that


Lmao


i think the issue is how some are defining the definition of adult and what the consequences should be. nothing more nothing less

for example...in states that allow marriage at 14 are lawmakers suggesting its ok for adults to bang high school kids?
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Re: Shams: NBA is looking into allegations of Josh Giddey having inappropriate relationship with a minor 

Post#295 » by NO-KG-AI » Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:50 am

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
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GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:literally nobody is suggesting that


Lmao


i think the issue is how some are defining the definition of adult and what the consequences should be. nothing more nothing less

for example...in states that allow marriage at 14 are lawmakers suggesting its ok for adults to bang high school kids?


Yes. Well, it doesn't even sound like they are suggesting it, sounds like they are totally ok with it.
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Re: Shams: NBA is looking into allegations of Josh Giddey having inappropriate relationship with a minor 

Post#296 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:53 am

NO-KG-AI wrote:
GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
NO-KG-AI wrote:
Lmao


i think the issue is how some are defining the definition of adult and what the consequences should be. nothing more nothing less

for example...in states that allow marriage at 14 are lawmakers suggesting its ok for adults to bang high school kids?


Yes. Well, it doesn't even sound like they are suggesting it, sounds like they are totally ok with it.


and if thats not crazy read this right off wiki

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_age_in_the_United_States

The marriageable age is determined by each state and territory.

Unchained At Last, a non-profit advocacy group dedicated to ending child marriage in the United States, found that only 14% of the child marriages conducted from 2000 to 2010 were between two children marrying each other.[17] In the other 86% of cases, child marriages are between a minor and an adult.[32] In terms of spousal age, the majority of those surveyed, about 60%, reported being 18–20 years old. Less than 3% reported being over 29 years of age.[35] In over 400 cases, the adult was aged over 40. And in 31 cases, they were over 60.

According to data compiled by Anjali Tsui, Dan Nolan, and Chris Amico, who looked at almost 200,000 cases of child marriage from 2000 to 2015:

67% of the children were aged 17.
29% of the children were aged 16.
4% of the children were aged 15.
Less than 1% of the children were aged 14 and under.
There were 51 cases of 13-year-olds getting married, and 6 cases of 12-year-olds getting married.[35]
U.S. states
Main article: Marriage age in the United States
Every state except New York, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Minnesota, New Jersey, Massachusetts,[44] Vermont, Connecticut,[11] and Michigan allows underage marriage in exceptional circumstances if one or more of the following circumstances apply:

consent of a court clerk or judge (sometimes the consent of a superior court judge, rather than a local judge, is required)
consent of the parents or legal guardians of the minor
if one of the parties is pregnant, or if the minor has given birth to a child
if the minor is emancipated.
In California, for instance, the general marriage age is 18, but children may be married with parental consent and judicial approval with no minimum age limit.[45]

As of July 2023, in the states that have set a marriage age by statute, the lower minimum marriage age when all exceptions are taken into account, are:

5 states have no minimum age (effectively 0).
2 states have a minimum age of 15.
23 states have a minimum age of 16.
10 states have a minimum age of 17.
10 states have a minimum age of 18.
From 2017[46][47] to 2023,[48][49][50][51][52][53][54][55][56][57][58] several states changed their law to set a minimum age, to raise their minimum age, or to make more stringent the conditions under which an underage marriage may occur. In the absence of any statutory minimum age, some conclude that the minimum common law marriageable age of 12 for girls and 14 for boys may still apply.[59][60]

U.S. territories
In the District of Columbia the general marriage age is 18, but 16-year-olds may marry with exceptions.[61] The general age of marriage in Puerto Rico is 21; however, 18-year-olds can marry, with exceptions (the age of majority in Puerto Rico is 21).[62] In Guam, the general age is 18, but 16-year-olds can get married with the consent of at least one parent or guardian.[63] In American Samoa, the marriage age has been changed to 18 for both sexes. This reflects a change in policy by Governor Lolo Moliga, who signed into law a bill that changed the marriage age for girls from 14 to 18 in September 2018.[13] In the U.S. Virgin Islands, the age of marriage is 18 for both sexes. Prior to 2019, the age of marriage was 14 for females and 16 for males.[64] In the Northern Mariana Islands males must be 18 to marry, while females can marry at 16 with parental consent.[65]

Comparison with other countries
Critics have pointed out that laws regarding child marriage in the United States compare unfavorably to laws regarding child marriage in other countries. For instance, in 2017, Human Rights Watch pointed out that Afghanistan has a tougher law on child marriage than parts of the United States: in Afghanistan the minimum age of marriage is 15, and that only with permission from their father or a judge; otherwise it is 16.[66] As of that date, 25 U.S. states had no minimum marriage age at all if one or more of the grounds for exception existed; this number has continually decreased since then.[67]
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Re: Shams: NBA is looking into allegations of Josh Giddey having inappropriate relationship with a minor 

Post#297 » by Brettfinch » Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:55 am

PlatinumState wrote:Having listened to Giddey inteviews through the years he's probably still a virgin
See that's what I've read and heard is that he's the only virgin in the NBA. It was a few months ago before any of this came to the surface. If they've never had sex then yall calling him sick still think the same?

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Re: Shams: NBA is looking into allegations of Josh Giddey having inappropriate relationship with a minor 

Post#298 » by axeman23 » Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:56 am

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Spates wrote:Sounds terrible when you frame it like that but ultimately it's just reductive. You don't know enough about the circumstances to draw an informed conclusion.
Watch a video of her she is not mature.

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The ones in tiktok?

To be fair... even Dillon Brooks in that playofff tiktok dancing madr him look like a kid.



The Tiktok that "may or may NOT be" her??? And a bunch of older guys on a sports forum should watch this girl's Tiktok? Sounds like entrapment... :lol:
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Re: Shams: NBA is looking into allegations of Josh Giddey having inappropriate relationship with a minor 

Post#299 » by Chokic » Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:02 am

"Legal age" is an arbitrary number defined by the prevailing society. There is hardly any difference between a 17 and 18yr old. Not saying what josh giddey is morally right that cloud will hang over his head for the remainder of his career but its telling when ppl are so up in arms about the whole minor thing when society is currently pushing far more egregious things and dont seem to bat an eye on those issues.
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Re: Shams: NBA is looking into allegations of Josh Giddey having inappropriate relationship with a minor 

Post#300 » by axeman23 » Sat Nov 25, 2023 4:03 am

enigmatics wrote:
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Spates wrote:It's like people here have never heard of moral relativism. Let's judge these things based on significant details before we presume someone is a creep and predator. They are close enough in age to give the Giddey a break. He's very much still a kid.

By no means does being 20 mean you're more mature than a 17 year old. The optics are weird, but it's nothing more.


[b]He’s a third year NBA player,[/b] she’s like a sophomore in high school, lol.


Again a multi million dollar 3 year NBA professional on top of all that. Rolling with a teenage girl and an UNDERAGE one is absurdly uncalibrated and downright predatory. It shouldn't even be a considering in his head.

It's not like he's the only younger guy on the team who just hasnt adjusted well - the average age is 23. They got plenty of thots and groupies around their age.

We def got some people on this thread (not you) who I hope are not allowed within 1000ft of teenagers. The types who sympathize with pedos insisting they be called "minor attracted people".



It's a little redundant calling him a "professional" NBA player, isn't it? I haven't heard of an "ameteur NBA player"... Also his salary? I mean if a Pizza Boy or an unemployed weed-smoker done the same thing would it be ok? MORE ok/less reprehensible? And again, people lie about their age all the time. If she's getting into clubs with him, she's obviously convincing. Or is it "not security's job" to ensure she's over 18? :dontknow:

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