Jaylen Brown Thread

[BK_2020]

Where were you after his game against the Bucks ?

You & Jaylenstans are just as bad was each other.

I was busy voting Jaylen for VC and voicing that fact in the post-game thread, of course.

Oh how nice of you leaving a “Jaylen was my pick” in the last game thread as your only positive comment about him, only to flood this post game thread with about a dozen comments taking glee out of watching him have a bad game.

As I said before, you’re pathetic.

You know what's pathetic? Getting so worked up that a randomass internet person is criticizing a player that you make it your mission to constantly take things personally. Lmao. Get a life.

[big-shot-ROB]

I was busy voting Jaylen for VC and voicing that fact in the post-game thread, of course.

Oh how nice of you leaving a “Jaylen was my pick” in the last game thread as your only positive comment about him, only to flood this post game thread with about a dozen comments taking glee out of watching him have a bad game.

As I said before, you’re pathetic.

You know what's pathetic? Getting so worked up that a randomass internet person is criticizing a player that you make it your mission to constantly take things personally. Lmao. Get a life.

I'd argue spending the 85% of your posts on straight out hating and venting about a player on your team doesn't give you a position to tell someone's they're pathetic and need a life. Need to get some mirrors in your house.

[Floody100]

I was busy voting Jaylen for VC and voicing that fact in the post-game thread, of course.

Oh how nice of you leaving a “Jaylen was my pick” in the last game thread as your only positive comment about him, only to flood this post game thread with about a dozen comments taking glee out of watching him have a bad game.

As I said before, you’re pathetic.

You know what's pathetic? Getting so worked up that a randomass internet person is criticizing a player that you make it your mission to constantly take things personally. Lmao. Get a life.

You do realise you just described yourself when it comes to Jaylen lol

[Patsfan1081]

Every season we’ve seen some type of improvement with JB. I was really hopeful this offseason it would be his handles hopefully leading to his court vision yet the ball is still sticking in his hands. I have to wonder why the coaching staff isn’t addressing this or if he’s not just listening. It feels like its the last area really keeping him from becoming a star. He should be averaging j5/6 assists a game.

[Shak_Celts]

Every season we’ve seen some type of improvement with JB. I was really hopeful this offseason it would be his handles hopefully leading to his court vision yet the ball is still sticking in his hands. I have to wonder why the coaching staff isn’t addressing this or if he’s not just listening. It feels like its the last area really keeping him from becoming a star. He should be averaging j5/6 assists a game.

he's already a star he's just not a very top star and will never be a superstar.

[zoyathedestroya]

Celtics Record Since 2019-20:
Jaylen, when taking <20 FGAs: 106-43 (71.1%)
Jaylen, when taking 20+ FGAs: 61-51 (54.5%)

With more scoring options, there's even less reason for him to take so many shots. Unless he's on one of those quarter heaters. Encourage him to contribute in other ways (rebounding, passing, defense, hustle, offball screening, move the ball, etc.). A change in role (and a change of shot diet/selection) compared to years past is warranted esp since he's never really been an efficient scorer if goal is for team to reach its peak potential on offense.

(For the curious, JT's splits are pretty much even -- 65.2% vs. 65.4%).

Add another loss to 20+ FGAs (22 FGAs vs. ORL) and add another win to <20 FGAs (16 vs. MIL). It's probably just anecdotal (20 is such a random cutoff after all) but still uncanny when it happens.

[BK_2020]

Every season we’ve seen some type of improvement with JB. I was really hopeful this offseason it would be his handles hopefully leading to his court vision yet the ball is still sticking in his hands. I have to wonder why the coaching staff isn’t addressing this or if he’s not just listening. It feels like its the last area really keeping him from becoming a star. He should be averaging j5/6 assists a game.

He doesn't have a good outside shot and he's not adept at scoring at the rim or getting to the line or when he's there, making free throws. Lack of handles is his most visible flaw but it is hardly his only one. Then there's the fact that he's good at things that aren't really worth a premium, like finishing transition opportunities.

[Fierce1]

Like I said, JB is now the new Carmelo.

[PierceFan4ever]

Like I said, JB is now the new Carmelo.

I wish JB had a bag like melo did on offense.

[RodyTur10]

Like I said, JB is now the new Carmelo.

Jaylen Brown compares more to Rudy Gay or Richard Jefferson. In fact the statistical resemblance to Gay is striking. Some echelon higher like Joe Johnson was clearly better than Brown has ever been or will be.

People don't want to hear that, but Brown's "star"-selections are a product of the success of the Celtics. If Brown would have played for the Sacramento Kings f.e. he wouldn't have had this reputation. It always happens that media and fans want to attribute success to individual players. Of course the Celtics have Tatum, but that solely narrative of one player gets boring (unless you have a superstar like Jordan or James).

And the media knows that you can't sell "good coaching", "roster depth", "weak competition" or any general notion as an explanation. So they create a hype. The "Jays", two young self-drafted wings as pillar for the future sounded good.

In recent times the same thing happened to the Warriors. At one point they did deserve four All Stars with Curry, Thompson, Durant and Green. But when the success of the Warriors continued it was an automatic All Star selection for Thompson and Green, while their play had dropped off a bit and more deserving players were overlooked in the deep West.

Coming back to the current Celtics team if you watch objectively then it's clear that Tatum is our number one and Porzingis our number two. After that it's between White, Holiday and Brown. And based on the performances this season so far you choose White as number three. And then it's a toss between Holiday and Brown.

As a side note. In an alternative history in the summer of 2018 after the unexpected playoff-run with Rozier as PG, the Celtics become aware that Irving isn't going to extend his contract. So they make a huge trade combined with Brown for Leonard, who just like in real life leaves for LA after a year. The Celtics initial starters in 2019 would then be Rozier, Smart, Hayward, Tatum, Theis/R.Williams. And the same Terry Rozier of the Charlotte Hornets may have become an All Star.

[Fierce1]

Like I said, JB is now the new Carmelo.

Jaylen Brown compares more to Rudy Gay or Richard Jefferson. In fact the statistical resemblance to Gay is striking. Some echelon higher like Joe Johnson was clearly better than Brown has ever been or will be.

People don't want to hear that, but Brown's "star"-selections are a product of the success of the Celtics. If Brown would have played for the Sacramento Kings f.e. he wouldn't have had this reputation. It always happens that media and fans want to attribute success to individual players. Of course the Celtics have Tatum, but that solely narrative of one player gets boring (unless you have a superstar like Jordan or James).

And the media knows that you can't sell "good coaching", "roster depth", "weak competition" or any general notion as an explanation. So they create a hype. The "Jays", two young self-drafted wings as pillar for the future sounded good.

In recent times the same thing happened to the Warriors. At one point they did deserve four All Stars with Curry, Thompson, Durant and Green. But when the success of the Warriors continued it was an automatic All Star selection for Thompson and Green, while their play had dropped off a bit and more deserving players were overlooked in the deep West.

Coming back to the current Celtics team if you watch objectively then it's clear that Tatum is our number one and Porzingis our number two. After that it's between White, Holiday and Brown. And based on the performances this season so far you choose White as number three. And then it's a toss between Holiday and Brown.

As a side note. In an alternative history in the summer of 2018 after the unexpected playoff-run with Rozier as PG, the Celtics become aware that Irving isn't going to extend his contract. So they make a huge trade combined with Brown for Leonard, who just like in real life leaves for LA after a year. The Celtics initial starters in 2019 would then be Rozier, Smart, Hayward, Tatum, Theis/R.Williams. And the same Terry Rozier of the Charlotte Hornets may have become an All Star.

I'm referring to having big numbers, making the All-Star team but really doesn't result in team success.

Melo always had the stats and recognition as a star player, but it doesn't result in his team winning anything.

[ryan in Maine]

JB basically a poor man's Mitch Richmond.

[zoyathedestroya]

One is not like the others.

[Objectivity]

Like I said, JB is now the new Carmelo.

Jaylen Brown compares more to Rudy Gay or Richard Jefferson. In fact the statistical resemblance to Gay is striking. Some echelon higher like Joe Johnson was clearly better than Brown has ever been or will be.

People don't want to hear that, but Brown's "star"-selections are a product of the success of the Celtics. If Brown would have played for the Sacramento Kings f.e. he wouldn't have had this reputation. It always happens that media and fans want to attribute success to individual players. Of course the Celtics have Tatum, but that solely narrative of one player gets boring (unless you have a superstar like Jordan or James).

And the media knows that you can't sell "good coaching", "roster depth", "weak competition" or any general notion as an explanation. So they create a hype. The "Jays", two young self-drafted wings as pillar for the future sounded good.

In recent times the same thing happened to the Warriors. At one point they did deserve four All Stars with Curry, Thompson, Durant and Green. But when the success of the Warriors continued it was an automatic All Star selection for Thompson and Green, while their play had dropped off a bit and more deserving players were overlooked in the deep West.

Coming back to the current Celtics team if you watch objectively then it's clear that Tatum is our number one and Porzingis our number two. After that it's between White, Holiday and Brown. And based on the performances this season so far you choose White as number three. And then it's a toss between Holiday and Brown.

As a side note. In an alternative history in the summer of 2018 after the unexpected playoff-run with Rozier as PG, the Celtics become aware that Irving isn't going to extend his contract. So they make a huge trade combined with Brown for Leonard, who just like in real life leaves for LA after a year. The Celtics initial starters in 2019 would then be Rozier, Smart, Hayward, Tatum, Theis/R.Williams. And the same Terry Rozier of the Charlotte Hornets may have become an All Star.

I'm referring to having big numbers, making the All-Star team but really doesn't result in team success.

Melo always had the stats and recognition as a star player, but it doesn't result in his team winning anything.

It’s wild comparing Brown to superstar skilled players. Melo had a real offensive skillset and he was even a better help team defender with a much higher basketball IQ.

T Mac also never won but no reason to compare Brown to players like this.

Brown has never been a superstar or #1 in this league.

NOW. This is where we will agree on one thing. I remember an interview last year where Brown mentioned Melo was one of his favorite players growing up.

Brown would improve so much if he learned real basketball footwork from Melo and learned how to score efficiently without dribbling. Melo was an elite spot up shooter.

Players may want to shoot and score like Kobe or Melo but some players like Brown may have overlooked the footwork, IQ and complete skillset of those players.

[SuperDeluxe]

One is not like the others.

If only we could trade him for one like the others.

[SuperDeluxe]

Read on Twitter

Problem is, he sees lanes even when there's three defenders and no space.

[Objectivity]

Read on Twitter

Problem is, he sees lanes even when there's three defenders and no space.

After listening to the full interview, it appears JB has started politicking a tad earlier than usual. He wants to prove to the media that he’s improved this year.

JB will be forcing the issue against tougher defenses all year instead of letting the ball handlers run the offense.

There HAS to be a future rule change against writing thank you letters to media members who helped sway votes that impacted his salary.

[Fierce1]

Read on Twitter

Problem is, he sees lanes even when there's three defenders and no space.

True.

There was one instance where he thought there was an open lane then ended up throwing the ball away because he had nowhere to go.

I think that happened in the 3rd qtr.

[Rangeman]

I would trade Brown and picks for Haliburton

[Fierce1]

I would trade Brown and picks for Haliburton

No way Indy agrees to that trade.