Dallas Mavericks 2023/24 Trade thread

[Captain_Obvious]

Please come back, Dorian

Winwiwwie as well for that matter

[tleikheen]

The Trade

Kyle Kuzma to the Dallas Mavericks for Richaun Holmes, Maxi Kleber, Olivier Maxence-Prosper, a 2027 first-round pick (top-three protected) and a 2028 first-round pick swap

Dallas had eyes on Kuzma this offseason, and it could wind up seeing him as the final piece to complete its starting five. Journeyman Derrick Jones Jr. is the clear weak link in that group, and Kuzma would be an enormous upgrade. He could shine as a third scoring option, and he's made big strides with his defense and distributing.

Washington started a youth movement this offseason, but it can (and should) lean further into that direction. The Wizards would pounce on this package for the pick and swap, both of which intrigue given some questions about Luka Dončić's long-term future in Dallas. Maxence-Prosper, this summer's 24th pick, could find a fit in the District. Holmes and Kleber would merely make the financial math work. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10098315-nba-trade-block-big-board-realistic-deals-for-top-rumored-players

[41Dirk41]

The Trade

Kyle Kuzma to the Dallas Mavericks for Richaun Holmes, Maxi Kleber, Olivier Maxence-Prosper, a 2027 first-round pick (top-three protected) and a 2028 first-round pick swap

Dallas had eyes on Kuzma this offseason, and it could wind up seeing him as the final piece to complete its starting five. Journeyman Derrick Jones Jr. is the clear weak link in that group, and Kuzma would be an enormous upgrade. He could shine as a third scoring option, and he's made big strides with his defense and distributing.

Washington started a youth movement this offseason, but it can (and should) lean further into that direction. The Wizards would pounce on this package for the pick and swap, both of which intrigue given some questions about Luka Dončić's long-term future in Dallas. Maxence-Prosper, this summer's 24th pick, could find a fit in the District. Holmes and Kleber would merely make the financial math work. https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10098315-nba-trade-block-big-board-realistic-deals-for-top-rumored-players

Hell no.

[BeiBeau]

Dallas’s starting lineup is fine defensively.

The problem is the bench lineup of: Luka or Kyrie plus Green + THJ + Exum/Hardy/Curry + Powell. That lineup is small as **** and Green is the only plus defender and he’s been weaker on that end this year.

Dallas needs a bench defender. I think the Patrick Williams is a buy low candidate who could be a home run in a new system. He would probably be the best POA defender on the team to start.

If OMax develops that could also be huge or the return of Kleber could help.

[tleikheen]

That lineup is small as **** and Green is the only plus defender and he’s been weaker on that end this year.

Ill take Exums smarter ,longer defense over Greens anytime . Your not seeing the amt of blowbys that you see with Greens defense.

[41Dirk41]

Dallas’s starting lineup is fine defensively.

The problem is the bench lineup of: Luka or Kyrie plus Green + THJ + Exum/Hardy/Curry + Powell. That lineup is small as **** and Green is the only plus defender and he’s been weaker on that end this year.

Dallas needs a bench defender. I think the Patrick Williams is a buy low candidate who could be a home run in a new system. He would probably be the best POA defender on the team to start.

If OMax develops that could also be huge or the return of Kleber could help.

Luckily finally everybody understand that Powell is not a NBA bench player so 70% of our problems are solved

[BeiBeau]

Dallas’s starting lineup is fine defensively.

The problem is the bench lineup of: Luka or Kyrie plus Green + THJ + Exum/Hardy/Curry + Powell. That lineup is small as **** and Green is the only plus defender and he’s been weaker on that end this year.

Dallas needs a bench defender. I think the Patrick Williams is a buy low candidate who could be a home run in a new system. He would probably be the best POA defender on the team to start.

If OMax develops that could also be huge or the return of Kleber could help.

Luckily finally everybody understand that Powell is not a NBA bench player so 70% of our problems are solved

You are the biggest reason why the quality of basketball discussion on this board is low. Powell is a situational backup, everyone on this board understands that. The rest of us would like to have real conversations about when the situations when he is effect are, the ways the Mavs can improve around that, and what players we should bring in when his skill set is not effective. But having this annoying troll and hater who knows nothing about the sport place every problem the Mavs have ever had at Powell’s feet and deny him any credit when he does contribute makes that discussion impossible.

Please do me a favor and don’t reply to my posts, you’ve never contributed beyond trolling and emojis and I don’t see your behavior changing any time soon.

[BeiBeau]

That lineup is small as **** and Green is the only plus defender and he’s been weaker on that end this year.

Ill take Exums smarter ,longer defense over Greens anytime . Your not seeing the amt of blowbys that you see with Greens defense.

Exum has for sure outplayed green to start the season, but maybe Green’s last 2 games are the start to his bounce back.

Right now it feels like Green vs Exum is an either or scenario but it shouldn’t. Kyrie or Luka has to be on the floor with the 2nd unit to run the show. THJ is on pace for 6MOY so he’s gonna get a spot in the 2nd unit and then if we play Powell, Green, Exum then we’re undersized by a lot.

If Dallas could hypothetically replace THJ’s production with a larger player(John Collins has been my suggestion) then Green and Exum are playing the 2-3 instead of 3-4 which is in general a better matchup for them.

Defense is not the only thing that affects our defense. We need to end defensive possessions by rebounding and get some secondary rim protection.

[41Dirk41]

Dallas’s starting lineup is fine defensively.

The problem is the bench lineup of: Luka or Kyrie plus Green + THJ + Exum/Hardy/Curry + Powell. That lineup is small as **** and Green is the only plus defender and he’s been weaker on that end this year.

Dallas needs a bench defender. I think the Patrick Williams is a buy low candidate who could be a home run in a new system. He would probably be the best POA defender on the team to start.

If OMax develops that could also be huge or the return of Kleber could help.

Luckily finally everybody understand that Powell is not a NBA bench player so 70% of our problems are solved

You are the biggest reason why the quality of basketball discussion on this board is low. Powell is a situational backup, everyone on this board understands that. The rest of us would like to have real conversations about when the situations when he is effect are, the ways the Mavs can improve around that, and what players we should bring in when his skill set is not effective. But having this annoying troll and hater who knows nothing about the sport place every problem the Mavs have ever had at Powell’s feet and deny him any credit when he does contribute makes that discussion impossible.

Please do me a favor and don’t reply to my posts, you’ve never contributed beyond trolling and emojis and I don’t see your behavior changing any time soon.

Unfortunately nobody agree with you here. NOBODY.
Put that in your head.
Read the posts please, don't create an alternative reality for your own sake.
Everyone don't want to see Powell on the floor again, never more.

The biggest problem in this forum are the weak basketball knowledge users.
And you are the main star in this category.

You wrote bulls**t about Powell and basketball for months but the reality hit you. And it's hurts. I know.

Trust me, a discussion about when Powell is effective or not is the stupid thing i've ever hear. Please stop.

Don't set yourself up as an expert, try to read and learn. It may be useful to you considering what you write.

You are embarassing yourself.

[BeiBeau]

Luckily finally everybody understand that Powell is not a NBA bench player so 70% of our problems are solved

You are the biggest reason why the quality of basketball discussion on this board is low. Powell is a situational backup, everyone on this board understands that. The rest of us would like to have real conversations about when the situations when he is effect are, the ways the Mavs can improve around that, and what players we should bring in when his skill set is not effective. But having this annoying troll and hater who knows nothing about the sport place every problem the Mavs have ever had at Powell’s feet and deny him any credit when he does contribute makes that discussion impossible.

Please do me a favor and don’t reply to my posts, you’ve never contributed beyond trolling and emojis and I don’t see your behavior changing any time soon.

Unfortunately nobody agree with you here. NOBODY.
Put that in your head.
Read the posts please, don't create an alternative reality for your own sake.
Everyone don't want to see Powell on the floor again, never more.

The biggest problem in this forum are the weak basketball knowledge users.
And you are the main star in this category.

You wrote bulls**t about Powell and basketball for months but the reality hit you. And it's hurts. I know.

Trust me, a discussion about when Powell is effective or not is the stupid thing i've ever hear. Please stop.

Don't set yourself up as an expert, try to read and learn. It may be useful to you considering what you write.

You are embarassing yourself.

I don’t care what the majority thinks. Plenty of people on this board can recognize when Powell helps the team and when he is often not the right man for the job. But please continue to pretend that Powell has never done anything to contribute to this team.

I know that you have a 2nd grade grasp on the English language but please let me help you out. A situational(relating to or dependent on a set of circumstances or state of affairs) player means that he is a player that should only play in the right circumstances, however the Mavs 2nd unit needs defense which he does not do well. Which is why I have been suggesting for weeks other backup centers Dallas should get. However, what that does not mean is that every problem with defense for the whole team is Dwight Powell’s fault. He is an undersized center but he also plays in line ups that are undersized across the board. He is a poor defender but so is the majority of players in the 2nd unit. He can’t contribute as a member of this team because his hustle, offense, and ability to switch is good but for right now Dallas doesn’t need that therefore he is situational player and Dallas should add to their 2nd unit.

That’s it. That the last response from me. Please continue to troll this board with emojis and Powell sucks and what ever everyone else on twitter says because you can’t form your own opinion.

[41Dirk41]

You are the biggest reason why the quality of basketball discussion on this board is low. Powell is a situational backup, everyone on this board understands that. The rest of us would like to have real conversations about when the situations when he is effect are, the ways the Mavs can improve around that, and what players we should bring in when his skill set is not effective. But having this annoying troll and hater who knows nothing about the sport place every problem the Mavs have ever had at Powell’s feet and deny him any credit when he does contribute makes that discussion impossible.

Please do me a favor and don’t reply to my posts, you’ve never contributed beyond trolling and emojis and I don’t see your behavior changing any time soon.

Unfortunately nobody agree with you here. NOBODY.
Put that in your head.
Read the posts please, don't create an alternative reality for your own sake.
Everyone don't want to see Powell on the floor again, never more.

The biggest problem in this forum are the weak basketball knowledge users.
And you are the main star in this category.

You wrote bulls**t about Powell and basketball for months but the reality hit you. And it's hurts. I know.

Trust me, a discussion about when Powell is effective or not is the stupid thing i've ever hear. Please stop.

Don't set yourself up as an expert, try to read and learn. It may be useful to you considering what you write.

You are embarassing yourself.

I don’t care what the majority thinks. Plenty of people on this board can recognize when Powell helps the team and when he is often not the right man for the job. But please continue to pretend that Powell has never done anything to contribute to this team.

I know that you have a 2nd grade grasp on the English language but please let me help you out. A situational(relating to or dependent on a set of circumstances or state of affairs) player means that he is a player that should only play in the right circumstances, however the Mavs 2nd unit needs defense which he does not do well. Which is why I have been suggesting for weeks other backup centers Dallas should get. However, what that does not mean is that every problem with defense for the whole team is Dwight Powell’s fault. He is an undersized center but he also plays in line ups that are undersized across the board. He is a poor defender but so is the majority of players in the 2nd unit. He can’t contribute as a member of this team because his hustle, offense, and ability to switch is good but for right now Dallas doesn’t need that therefore he is situational player and Dallas should add to their 2nd unit.

That’s it. That the last response from me. Please continue to troll this board with emojis and Powell sucks and what ever everyone else on twitter says because you can’t form your own opinion.

Dallas never needed Powell, he is still here because Cuban pride after Rondo fiasco, everybody know it.
He was the former worst starter in the league,now he is the worst back-up C in the league and he will become the worst 3 strong C in 1/2 months.

I can understand you feel proud because you have and own opinion, it's a good thing... But he is a wrong one.

I probably have 2nd grade grasp in English but you have nursery grade grasp in Basketball

But don't worry, when Mavs will face another garbage team your idol Powell will put numbers on the boxscore and you can come back... Your silence in last games was pretty good thought. Ouch.

You talked about offense, what offense? He can only scores lob 1 vs 0. Is it offense for you? Oh well, you are desperate

Powell is the worst thing that happened to this team and having him for 12 straight years is the dumbest thing can do a GM/Owner.
Put it in your head twitter boy.

[Maverick41]

Yall need to calm down sometimes here. Here's a fun proposal:

DAL Receives: PatWill + Drummond + Craig
CHI Receives: Green + Hardy + Powell

DAL goes for more size to balance the roster. Gamble that PatWill can turn it around. Drummond and Craig are solid bench vets and are elite rebounders for their positions. Most importantly daoneandonly rejoices that Green is banished and 41Dirk41 throws a parade that Powell is gone. BeiBeau gets his boy PatWill. Peace is restored.

CHI gets 2 young guys in Green and Hardy for guys they're gonna lose in the offseason anyway.

[daoneandonly]

Yall need to calm down sometimes here. Here's a fun proposal:

DAL Receives: PatWill + Drummond + Craig
CHI Receives: Green + Hardy + Powell

DAL goes for more size to balance the roster. Gamble that PatWill can turn it around. Drummond and Craig are solid bench vets and are elite rebounders for their positions. Most importantly daoneandonly rejoices that Green is banished and 41Dirk41 throws a parade that Powell is gone. BeiBeau gets his boy PatWill. Peace is restored.

CHI gets 2 young guys in Green and Hardy for guys they're gonna lose in the offseason anyway.

See this is what the board should be, unity. We're all Mavs fans here, thanks Mav41

As for the trade, one Dal should consider, but I think the FO is too invested in Powell to ever trade him. He's like what Haslem was to the Heat.

On an unrelated note, obviously McGee the player would help. But after that little scuffle with THJ the other week, safe to assume he was a big locker room problem? If so, I see why they desperately wanted to get rid of him.

[Teffer10]

Yall need to calm down sometimes here. Here's a fun proposal:

DAL Receives: PatWill + Drummond + Craig
CHI Receives: Green + Hardy + Powell

DAL goes for more size to balance the roster. Gamble that PatWill can turn it around. Drummond and Craig are solid bench vets and are elite rebounders for their positions. Most importantly daoneandonly rejoices that Green is banished and 41Dirk41 throws a parade that Powell is gone. BeiBeau gets his boy PatWill. Peace is restored.

CHI gets 2 young guys in Green and Hardy for guys they're gonna lose in the offseason anyway.

Not sure I'd give up Hardy and Green for that package.
Id give up that same package (and more) for Jarret Allen though.

[Teffer10]

Did anyone ever sign Noel?
Wouldn't mind signing him if still available.

[Archx]

The Trade

Kyle Kuzma to the Dallas Mavericks for Richaun Holmes, Maxi Kleber, Olivier Maxence-Prosper, a 2027 first-round pick (top-three protected) and a 2028 first-round pick swap

For a second i thought you're trying to trade for an all star with that package then i saw Kuzma.

[tleikheen]

For a second i thought you're trying to trade for an all star with that package then i saw Kuzma.

Kuzma has gotten better as he's matured avging 17 ppg /2yrs ago ,21 ppg /last yr, 23.6 ppg this yr ........ substantially better than what the Mavs have now. Kuzma 6'10 w/shoes would give Luka and Kyrie a whole different type of weapon to use against opposing defenses.

[Archx]

For a second i thought you're trying to trade for an all star with that package then i saw Kuzma.

Kuzma has gotten better as he's matured avging 17 ppg /2yrs ago ,21 ppg /last yr, 23.6 ppg this yr ........ substantially better than what the Mavs have now. Kuzma 6'10 w/shoes would give Luka and Kyrie a whole different type of weapon to use against opposing defenses.

His -16.6 On/Off on 56% TS on a tanking team doesn't really stand out as something positive. Mavs need a significant upgrade on big wing or center defending positions, Kuzma is none of that. Him and Poole are probably the biggest "meme" in the NBA right now.

You don't send THAT package along with picks for a player like him.

[41Dirk41]

The Trade

Kyle Kuzma to the Dallas Mavericks for Richaun Holmes, Maxi Kleber, Olivier Maxence-Prosper, a 2027 first-round pick (top-three protected) and a 2028 first-round pick swap

For a second i thought you're trying to trade for an all star with that package then i saw Kuzma.

Worst trade ever

[41Dirk41]

Yall need to calm down sometimes here. Here's a fun proposal:

DAL Receives: PatWill + Drummond + Craig
CHI Receives: Green + Hardy + Powell

DAL goes for more size to balance the roster. Gamble that PatWill can turn it around. Drummond and Craig are solid bench vets and are elite rebounders for their positions. Most importantly daoneandonly rejoices that Green is banished and 41Dirk41 throws a parade that Powell is gone. BeiBeau gets his boy PatWill. Peace is restored.

CHI gets 2 young guys in Green and Hardy for guys they're gonna lose in the offseason anyway.

I don't think you have the situation clear here, POWELL WILL BE RESIGNED UNTIL HIS DEATH.

I asked to my family that I will want the writing on my tombstone "Powell is the best C in NBA history".