pg: RJ locked up jimmy butler!!!

[3toheadmelo]

Game ball to Quick . He changed the game

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Team IQ winning!

[mpharris36]

Isn’t Jerry West in the clippers front office? Grimes and Randle since he is super high on Grimes…

Then start IQ and give Duece the extra guard bench minutse

Brunson/Duece
IQ/DD
PG13/Hart
RJ/Hart
Mitch/ihart

prosper!

This feels like same problem the clippers currently have, where there’s too many cooks with one ball. Probably need to replace RJ with a stretch 4 that can rebound.

nah the clippers don't have enough guys will to do the little things. You can stagger the minutes to have IQ and RJ still play a majority of the minutes with the bench. But your shooting and defense uptick big time.

[Iron Mantis]

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Quickley has extraordinary spirit. He refused to let go of the rope, and fired up his teammates.

Knicks could use that in the starting lineup.

[mpharris36]

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Quickley has extraordinary spirit. He refused to let go of the rope, and fired up his teammates.

Knicks could use that in the starting lineup.

I still don't love the idea of moving IQ to the starting lineup. He will get infected by the slow pace and ISO ball...let him run free with the bench.

[3toheadmelo]

start isaiah hartenstein folks

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[Iron Mantis]

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Quickley has extraordinary spirit. He refused to let go of the rope, and fired up his teammates.

Knicks could use that in the starting lineup.

I still don't love the idea of moving IQ to the starting lineup. He will get infected by the slow pace and ISO ball...let him run free with the bench.

Need to get rid of Randle so Quickley can blossom here as the SG.

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Mitch

One of the pieces in the package you get for Randle could possibly be a 3&D PF.

[Juco24]

Is there any reason to care about this tournament? They're really hammering it hard on ESPN but I really dont care at all

I honestly don't even understand nor care about it. It's stupid imo

[robillionaire]

The Knicks definitely won that game.

They took it by force in the 4th with very tough defense, rebounds, good offense and timely buckets.

You just don't like that they did it all without Randle...

IQ is my other favorite player and he scored 14 points in the last 15 minutes was +22 basically dragged us there so I’d be more than happy to post a bunch of gifs about him and go on and on but I’m secure enough in his talent

Even with that I still think we stole it, the heat had a lot of uncharacteristic open misses

We were down 9 when Randle came back in and he had 3 rebs in the last 1:13 and we still won the game so it’s not like he prevented it, he was on the court for the final push/11 point swing

No one cares about how you feel about IQ. You make it quite clear Randle is your guy.

At any rate, When you play hard-nosed defense, you can disrupt the opponents' rhythm and make them feel uncomfortable and they rush or aim shots...they "feel you" on defense .

The Knicks were also getting buckets, the crowd responded, and the Heat felt the pressure and played tight: what the Knicks did caused the Heat to unravel.

Randle grabbed a few boards, good. They certainly refused to pass it to him thank goodness. You noticed when he got a board he got rid of the ball like a child afraid of getting a whooping. He should do that more often-----move the ball---- and stop ball hogging.

He led the team in assists once again as he has all season long and deliberately as you admit did not ball hog but yeah; ball hogging. Sure.

Nobody “refused to pass him the ball” another false narrative trying to frame it as the team hates him when they repeatedly say otherwise but if they did, that’s actual ball hogging

[mpharris36]

Assists generally aren't a great barometer for moving the ball. You can still ball hog with a lot of assists especially if no one else is touching the ball and you also nearly have a 1:1 assist to turnover ration which isn't good at all.

Ball hogging might not be the best term but the team def plays more stagnant and at a slow pace with Randle on the court.

[robillionaire]

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Quickley has extraordinary spirit. He refused to let go of the rope, and fired up his teammates.

Knicks could use that in the starting lineup.

I still don't love the idea of moving IQ to the starting lineup. He will get infected by the slow pace and ISO ball...let him run free with the bench.

We can kinda use him like Derrick Rose 2021. Didn’t start but still a big factor and closed games

[robillionaire]

Assists generally aren't a great barometer for moving the ball. You can still ball hog with a lot of assists especially if no one else is touching the ball and you also nearly have a 1:1 assist to turnover ration which isn't good at all.

Ball hogging might not be the best term but the team def plays more stagnant and at a slow pace with Randle on the court.

A lot of the turnovers were in fact him trying to move the ball; he had a few bad passes that usually aren’t off the mark that bad credit Spo and the heat defense for that I guess. They’ll need to adjust for that next time we meet

It’s not a surprise we play at a faster pace when energy guys like IQ Donte Hart and iHart come in

[mpharris36]

Assists generally aren't a great barometer for moving the ball. You can still ball hog with a lot of assists especially if no one else is touching the ball and you also nearly have a 1:1 assist to turnover ration which isn't good at all.

Ball hogging might not be the best term but the team def plays more stagnant and at a slow pace with Randle on the court.

A lot of the turnovers were in fact him trying to move the ball; he had a few bad passes that usually aren’t off the mark that bad credit Spo and the heat defense for that I guess. They’ll need to adjust for that next time we meet

It’s not a surprise we play at a faster pace when energy guys like IQ Donte Hart and iHart come in

Honestly randle is what he is at this point. I don't think there is much adjusting. Spo and teams in the playoffs attack Randle one he makes that first dribble and Randle just naturally doesn't know how to slow the game down and then force bad passes.

Also when it's just a randle ISO even when he is forcing help I feel we get way to stagnant. It's just 4 guys watching randle. When with Brunson/IQ/RJ there is at least some player movement because a screen is being set ect...

[robillionaire]

Upon reflection I’ll say to me it felt more like the heat lost the game more than we won it, just in terms of how terrible they played and missing everything at the end. Not to take anything away from the Knicks admirable effort but if the heat even make one more shot we still lose. So basically we stole one but I’ll take the W every day

The Knicks definitely won that game.

They took it by force in the 4th with very tough defense, rebounds, good offense and timely buckets.

You just don't like that they did it all without Randle...

100% correct

100% projection, I’m happy in a win whether it’s Randle taking the backseat to the hot hands or him hitting the buzzer beater like he did against them last year. Meanwhile y’all’s little fandom cries when win or lose if it’s not RJ getting enough touches doing it. I never said a word about Randle, so again this is you all just attacking me with strawman arguments like clowns, I was glad with the way Randle finished the game and I am glad my other bias was the spark for it and I’m glad my team won the game. I can still say my opinion that I think we got a bit lucky with the opponent choking and making mistakes which is typically the case with nearly any massive comeback

[robillionaire]

Assists generally aren't a great barometer for moving the ball. You can still ball hog with a lot of assists especially if no one else is touching the ball and you also nearly have a 1:1 assist to turnover ration which isn't good at all.

Ball hogging might not be the best term but the team def plays more stagnant and at a slow pace with Randle on the court.

A lot of the turnovers were in fact him trying to move the ball; he had a few bad passes that usually aren’t off the mark that bad credit Spo and the heat defense for that I guess. They’ll need to adjust for that next time we meet

It’s not a surprise we play at a faster pace when energy guys like IQ Donte Hart and iHart come in

Honestly randle is what he is at this point. I don't think there is much adjusting. Spo and teams in the playoffs attack Randle one he makes that first dribble and Randle just naturally doesn't know how to slow the game down and then force bad passes.

Also when it's just a randle ISO even when he is forcing help I feel we get way to stagnant. It's just 4 guys watching randle. When with Brunson/IQ/RJ there is at least some player movement because a screen is being set ect...

I think IQ being in the game vs not being in the game is the main difference with pace because he’s always in constant attack mode and doesn’t care to hoist early in the shot clock either. Starters try to run more set plays. Could be wrong though. Didn’t the starters have one of the better offensive ratings in the league or something like that

[mpharris36]

Quickley has extraordinary spirit. He refused to let go of the rope, and fired up his teammates.

Knicks could use that in the starting lineup.

I still don't love the idea of moving IQ to the starting lineup. He will get infected by the slow pace and ISO ball...let him run free with the bench.

We can kinda use him like Derrick Rose 2021. Didn’t start but still a big factor and closed games

Correct unless one of the main offensive guys are hurt or even traded it probably makes sense to keep IQ coming off the bench. I think we would be wasting IQs skillet if he was being used as just a flor spacer the way Grimes and DD are being used. IQ is needed for more shot creation which he can get with the 2nd unit.

[nedleeds]

One of the pieces in the package you get for Randle could possibly be a 3&D PF.

Why would any team trade a functional good stretch 4 who plays defense for Randle and his contract?

The only piece you are getting back for Randle is matching salary and you're probably sending a pick out.

[robillionaire]

I still don't love the idea of moving IQ to the starting lineup. He will get infected by the slow pace and ISO ball...let him run free with the bench.

We can kinda use him like Derrick Rose 2021. Didn’t start but still a big factor and closed games

Correct unless one of the main offensive guys are hurt or even traded it probably makes sense to keep IQ coming off the bench. I think we would be wasting IQs skillet if he was being used as just a flor spacer the way Grimes and DD are being used. IQ is needed for more shot creation which he can get with the 2nd unit.

Brunson and IQ might not work great together all the time for various reasons like size but as part of a death lineup to close a game it’s nice

[mpharris36]

A lot of the turnovers were in fact him trying to move the ball; he had a few bad passes that usually aren’t off the mark that bad credit Spo and the heat defense for that I guess. They’ll need to adjust for that next time we meet

It’s not a surprise we play at a faster pace when energy guys like IQ Donte Hart and iHart come in

Honestly randle is what he is at this point. I don't think there is much adjusting. Spo and teams in the playoffs attack Randle one he makes that first dribble and Randle just naturally doesn't know how to slow the game down and then force bad passes.

Also when it's just a randle ISO even when he is forcing help I feel we get way to stagnant. It's just 4 guys watching randle. When with Brunson/IQ/RJ there is at least some player movement because a screen is being set ect...

I think IQ being in the game vs not being in the game is the main difference with pace because he’s always in constant attack mode and doesn’t care to hoist early in the shot clock either. Starters try to run more set plays. Could be wrong though. Didn’t the starters have one of the better offensive ratings in the league or something like that

Our starters have good offensive rating mainly due to Brunson and then Mitch's offensive rebounding ability. We aren't some elite shooting/passing team. We are a good offense because generally we don't turn the ball over and we take a high volume of shots since we rebound a high volume of our misses.

I don't think it's just IQ that picks up the pace. Just watch when Randle gets a rebound he walks it up the court. There is a big difference when someone like Hart or IQ or even RJ get the rebound...the pace is increased off a miss.

[Iron Mantis]

IQ is my other favorite player and he scored 14 points in the last 15 minutes was +22 basically dragged us there so I’d be more than happy to post a bunch of gifs about him and go on and on but I’m secure enough in his talent

Even with that I still think we stole it, the heat had a lot of uncharacteristic open misses

We were down 9 when Randle came back in and he had 3 rebs in the last 1:13 and we still won the game so it’s not like he prevented it, he was on the court for the final push/11 point swing

No one cares about how you feel about IQ. You make it quite clear Randle is your guy.

At any rate, When you play hard-nosed defense, you can disrupt the opponents' rhythm and make them feel uncomfortable and they rush or aim shots...they "feel you" on defense .

The Knicks were also getting buckets, the crowd responded, and the Heat felt the pressure and played tight: what the Knicks did caused the Heat to unravel.

Randle grabbed a few boards, good. They certainly refused to pass it to him thank goodness. You noticed when he got a board he got rid of the ball like a child afraid of getting a whooping. He should do that more often-----move the ball---- and stop ball hogging.

He led the team in assists once again as he has all season long and deliberately as you admit did not ball hog but yeah; ball hogging. Sure.

Nobody “refused to pass him the ball” another false narrative trying to frame it as the team hates him when they repeatedly say otherwise but if they did, that’s actual ball hogging

7 assists is negated when you have 6 turnovers to match...5 of them from bad passes. It means you're doing too much, dominating the ball, holding it, trying to get assists.......just move the ball.

No one said "his teammates hate him". They simply kept going with what brought them back in the game: Randle not touching the ball......and avoided what put them in the hole: Randle touching the ball lol.

Knicks won last night in spite of Randle...not because of him. And that makes you feel like the Knicks didn't earn the win...weird.

[robillionaire]

Honestly randle is what he is at this point. I don't think there is much adjusting. Spo and teams in the playoffs attack Randle one he makes that first dribble and Randle just naturally doesn't know how to slow the game down and then force bad passes.

Also when it's just a randle ISO even when he is forcing help I feel we get way to stagnant. It's just 4 guys watching randle. When with Brunson/IQ/RJ there is at least some player movement because a screen is being set ect...

I think IQ being in the game vs not being in the game is the main difference with pace because he’s always in constant attack mode and doesn’t care to hoist early in the shot clock either. Starters try to run more set plays. Could be wrong though. Didn’t the starters have one of the better offensive ratings in the league or something like that

Our starters have good offensive rating mainly due to Brunson and then Mitch's offensive rebounding ability. We aren't some elite shooting/passing team. We are a good offense because generally we don't turn the ball over and we take a high volume of shots since we rebound a high volume of our misses.

I don't think it's just IQ that picks up the pace. Just watch when Randle gets a rebound he walks it up the court. There is a big difference when someone like Hart or IQ or even RJ get the rebound...the pace is increased off a miss.

I agree with that

But I’m also not sure if we even want to play at a fast pace all the time either or if the coach wants that. Benches are supposed to play faster and provide a spark of energy, defensive minded coaches like Thibs sometimes slow the pace on purpose. So it might just be by design. Sometimes it works better than others obviously last night it was the bench and their pace that sparked the win