Bears 2023 thread V

[Dresden]

I liked that tight end from MI- Overland. He's only a sophomore, so I don't know if he will come out or not. He's the same size as Kmet, and looks like a good receiver. Would be a good get in the 4th-5th round.

Marvin Harrison looked really good. Whoever gets him is going to be happy.

I thought the Ohio QB looked better than McCarthy, but he had much better receivers.

[dice]

dice, you're the arbiter of rationality, I very much reject the assumption that Poles would have drafted Young just because the Panthers did. Or of some interpretation of media “consensus”. For one, the Panthers owner is said to have made that call for Young over the GM. And, Young is not Poles' type of athlete. And if it was Stroud for the Bears, I would be the one calling him a genius. Results make the grade. Pretty mixed so far on the quarterback decisions.

not when they're based on luck. i don't consider lotto winners financial geniuses. nor the kardashians. nor do i consider the texans GM a genius for ending up w/ stroud. nor john paxson for winning the lotto and taking d rose over beasley. etc. ad nauseum

and now you're penalizing poles because he might have thought that stroud had more potential than bryce?

and please tell me what other reasonable interpretation of media "consensus" would be:

https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/big-boards/2023/consensus-big-board-2023

stroud wasn't even #2!

[dice]

Panthers fan here...

Since you guys will likely get the #1 pick via us. How about trading us Justin Fields in the offseason for a 3rd round pick?

Bryce Young doesn't look like he has the skills to be a franchise QB. I honestly think Fields has a better chance at finding success moving forward.

maybe what ryan poles thought!

you guys aren't trading for fields. a lot of great QBs had bad rookie seasons

[Bulls69]

Panthers fan here...

Since you guys will likely get the #1 pick via us. How about trading us Justin Fields in the offseason for a 3rd round pick?

Bryce Young doesn't look like he has the skills to be a franchise QB. I honestly think Fields has a better chance at finding success moving forward.

Please don’t give up on the kid it’s his rookie season with his main weapon is a average 34 year old receiver


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[JustBuzzin]

Panthers fan here...

Since you guys will likely get the #1 pick via us. How about trading us Justin Fields in the offseason for a 3rd round pick?

Bryce Young doesn't look like he has the skills to be a franchise QB. I honestly think Fields has a better chance at finding success moving forward.

maybe what ryan poles thought!

you guys aren't trading for fields. a lot of great QBs had bad rookie seasons

It's not even about him having a bad season. He simply lacks arm strength and he doesn't have franchise QB talent. At best he will be middle of the pack and that's only if we surround him with a lot.

At least with Fields if he can't beat you with his arm he can always use his legs. Bryce was the #1 overall pick. He looks bad bro.

[JustBuzzin]

Panthers fan here...

Since you guys will likely get the #1 pick via us. How about trading us Justin Fields in the offseason for a 3rd round pick?

Bryce Young doesn't look like he has the skills to be a franchise QB. I honestly think Fields has a better chance at finding success moving forward.

Please don’t give up on the kid it’s his rookie season with his main weapon is a average 34 year old receiver


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He has no arm strength. You can't fix that. We drafted him #1 usually those guys show signs even when they lose a lot of games. Nothing stands out about Bryce.

[dice]

Panthers fan here...

Since you guys will likely get the #1 pick via us. How about trading us Justin Fields in the offseason for a 3rd round pick?

Bryce Young doesn't look like he has the skills to be a franchise QB. I honestly think Fields has a better chance at finding success moving forward.

maybe what ryan poles thought!

you guys aren't trading for fields. a lot of great QBs had bad rookie seasons

It's not even about him having a bad season. He simply lacks arm strength and he doesn't have franchise QB talent. At best he will be middle of the pack and that's only if we surround him with a lot.

At least with Fields if he can't beat you with his arm he can always use his legs. Bryce was the #1 overall pick. He looks bad bro.

not much correlation between arm strength and pro success these days. i'll assume you're correct that he doesn't have that skill, but wasn't it known coming in?

https://www.carolinahuddle.com/topic/190733-bryce-young-arm-strength-and-elasticity/

[dice]

simulated mock draft heading into this weekend with its important matchups amongst bad teams:

1 cards - caleb
2 bears - harrison
3 giants - maye
4 pats - fashanu
5 bears - alt

[JustBuzzin]

maybe what ryan poles thought!

you guys aren't trading for fields. a lot of great QBs had bad rookie seasons

It's not even about him having a bad season. He simply lacks arm strength and he doesn't have franchise QB talent. At best he will be middle of the pack and that's only if we surround him with a lot.

At least with Fields if he can't beat you with his arm he can always use his legs. Bryce was the #1 overall pick. He looks bad bro.

not much correlation between arm strength and pro success these days. i'll assume you're correct that he doesn't have that skill, but wasn't it known coming in?

Yes it was known!

We have the worst owner in the NFL. The guy had Bryce as his QB the moment we traded up. He didn't even throw at the combine that should have been a red flag!

Props to his agent for hiding his lack of arm strength. Our stupid owner ignored it and took him because he was simply his guy.

I'm kind of jealous of you guys we set you up to have a major turnaround. If you end up with a QB and Harrison Jr that is a hell of a foundation to build on.

Yes I also miss DJ Moore lol


Might go down as one of the worst trades of all time for us smh

[HearshotKDS]

I'm just gonna assume the Bears have been to every other MHJ game this season.

They already got him penciled in at #3 overall

[Chi town]

This Vikes game will tell us a lot about Fields. Flores blitzed the hell out of him last game and made Fields look like a HS backup.

If Fields can get the ball out quick and put up points on the Vikes it could go along way in keeping him.

[panthermark]

This Vikes game will tell us a lot about Fields. Flores blitzed the hell out of him last game and made Fields look like a HS backup.

If Fields can get the ball out quick and put up points on the Vikes it could go along way in keeping him.

Hopefully the Oline will be a bit more settled, although center and LT are still question marks from a talent standpoint, especially center.

[dice]

It's not even about him having a bad season. He simply lacks arm strength and he doesn't have franchise QB talent. At best he will be middle of the pack and that's only if we surround him with a lot.

At least with Fields if he can't beat you with his arm he can always use his legs. Bryce was the #1 overall pick. He looks bad bro.

not much correlation between arm strength and pro success these days. i'll assume you're correct that he doesn't have that skill, but wasn't it known coming in?

Yes it was known!

We have the worst owner in the NFL. The guy had Bryce as his QB the moment we traded up. He didn't even throw at the combine that should have been a red flag!

Props to his agent for hiding his lack of arm strength. Our stupid owner ignored it and took him because he was simply his guy.

I'm kind of jealous of you guys we set you up to have a major turnaround. If you end up with a QB and Harrison Jr that is a hell of a foundation to build on.

Yes I also miss DJ Moore lol


Might go down as one of the worst trades of all time for us smh

weren't you guys set to trade up to #2 w/ the texans, then when the bears asked for DJ you did that instead?

[JustBuzzin]

not much correlation between arm strength and pro success these days. i'll assume you're correct that he doesn't have that skill, but wasn't it known coming in?

Yes it was known!

We have the worst owner in the NFL. The guy had Bryce as his QB the moment we traded up. He didn't even throw at the combine that should have been a red flag!

Props to his agent for hiding his lack of arm strength. Our stupid owner ignored it and took him because he was simply his guy.

I'm kind of jealous of you guys we set you up to have a major turnaround. If you end up with a QB and Harrison Jr that is a hell of a foundation to build on.

Yes I also miss DJ Moore lol


Might go down as one of the worst trades of all time for us smh

weren't you guys set to trade up to #2 w/ the texans, then when the bears asked for DJ you did that instead?

Yeah lol

[fleet]

not much correlation between arm strength and pro success these days. i'll assume you're correct that he doesn't have that skill, but wasn't it known coming in?

Yes it was known!

We have the worst owner in the NFL. The guy had Bryce as his QB the moment we traded up. He didn't even throw at the combine that should have been a red flag!

Props to his agent for hiding his lack of arm strength. Our stupid owner ignored it and took him because he was simply his guy.

I'm kind of jealous of you guys we set you up to have a major turnaround. If you end up with a QB and Harrison Jr that is a hell of a foundation to build on.

Yes I also miss DJ Moore lol


Might go down as one of the worst trades of all time for us smh

weren't you guys set to trade up to #2 w/ the texans, then when the bears asked for DJ you did that instead?

The Bears were trading down to #2 with the Texans. Then, the Bears were trading down again with the Panthers. But the Texans backed out.

[HearshotKDS]

This Vikes game will tell us a lot about Fields. Flores blitzed the hell out of him last game and made Fields look like a HS backup.

If Fields can get the ball out quick and put up points on the Vikes it could go along way in keeping him.

Yeah need to see Fields look head and shoulders better this game than the lasto ne again MIN. Also want to see coaching show a better answer to pressure than "split the FB with 12 career catches outwide and have him run a hitch against a starting NFL corner".

[Dresden]

simulated mock draft heading into this weekend with its important matchups amongst bad teams:

1 cards - caleb
2 bears - harrison
3 giants - maye
4 pats - fashanu
5 bears - alt

If I'm the Bears, no way am I passing on Drake Maye for Harrison. As good as he is, you still need someone to throw him the ball. I've been watching NC get blown out by NC St, but Maye has a fantastic arm. he can sling it with the best of them, and he's pretty mobile. Great size as well.

Maye or Caleb, and Bears are set at QB for the next decade. You can always find WR's. The chance to take a QB of this caliber doesn't come along often.

[Mindcrime]

Early draft plan:
1.Harrison Jr

2.Trade down for late 1st/mid 2nd

3.McCarthy

4.Van Pran

5.Jim Harbaugh( he kind of knows the QB )

[Almost Retired]

Early draft plan:
1.Harrison Jr

2.Trade down for late 1st/mid 2nd

3.McCarthy

4.Van Pran

5.Jim Harbaugh( he kind of knows the QB )

I agree almost totally. But I would draft Nix rather than McCarthy. Given a little time and some weapons and Nix is deadly. Best accuracy in FBS history. Great anticipation. Can fit the ball into tight windows. Despite playing in the rain a lot in Oregon he has ZERO fumbles this year. Only 2 INTs. 3,900 yards, 37 TDs. He will move the chains, give you a time of possession advantage, and when opportunities are there he can deliver the dagger long ball. The biggest reason I prefer Nix, despite his age, is that he doesn't beat himself. Very smart. Calm under pressure. Decent size at 6' 3" 220 lbs. Get a Center (Van Pran would be perfect) and add Harrison, resign Mooney and Nix would put up nice numbers.

[Chicago-Bull-E]

I liked that tight end from MI- Overland. He's only a sophomore, so I don't know if he will come out or not. He's the same size as Kmet, and looks like a good receiver. Would be a good get in the 4th-5th round.

Marvin Harrison looked really good. Whoever gets him is going to be happy.

I thought the Ohio QB looked better than McCarthy, but he had much better receivers.

McCarthy made some tough throws yesterday. His numbers don’t look the best since they run a ton.

He’s a perfect candidate for drafting later in the 1st round and making sure he sits a year behind someone.