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Re: Ausar Thompson- Welcome to Detroit 

Post#181 » by MortSahlfan » Sun Nov 26, 2023 8:37 pm

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Canadafan wrote:https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzwbcglOavT/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==


They did compare Ivey to Dennis Smith Jr which makes me nervous.


I told my cousin this a month ago... DSJ had a decent rookie year, but then it went downhill because they were building around Luka, just like we're building around Cade.. Ivey needs to take advantage and continue to make those cuts to the basket, since he has a great first step. Standing in the corner isn't going to help our offense.

Ausar will lose some minutes when the others come back, but I think he'll continue to start.
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Re: Ausar Thompson- Welcome to Detroit 

Post#182 » by mattao313 » Sun Nov 26, 2023 8:49 pm

MortSahlfan wrote:
bjones521 wrote:
Canadafan wrote:https://www.instagram.com/reel/CzwbcglOavT/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==


They did compare Ivey to Dennis Smith Jr which makes me nervous.


I told my cousin this a month ago... DSJ had a decent rookie year, but then it went downhill because they were building around Luka, just like we're building around Cade.. Ivey needs to take advantage and continue to make those cuts to the basket, since he has a great first step. Standing in the corner isn't going to help our offense.

Ausar will lose some minutes when the others come back, but I think he'll continue to start.
Ivey is playing fine Cade is the one we need to worry about imo

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Post#183 » by Laimbeer » Tue Nov 28, 2023 12:40 am

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Post#184 » by Moses ShamMoses » Tue Nov 28, 2023 12:53 pm

Ausar might be a better prospect than Cade. Cade is mostly hype from being the #1 pick, whereas Ausar has special athletic talent. I wouldn't be surprised if he's a top 5 athlete in the entire league. Plus he has a good feel for the game as a rookie.
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Post#185 » by Sheeeeed » Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:33 pm

Moses ShamMoses wrote:Ausar might be a better prospect than Cade. Cade is mostly hype from being the #1 pick, whereas Ausar has special athletic talent. I wouldn't be surprised if he's a top 5 athlete in the entire league. Plus he has a good feel for the game as a rookie.


This. Ausar is definitely someone you could potentially build around. With Cade I'm afraid it's what you see, is what you're going to get.

I find it hilarious it was suggested here to trade away Ausar. That would be a bigger mistake than trading away Middleton.
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Post#186 » by ComboGuardCity » Tue Nov 28, 2023 9:06 pm

Ausar actually reminds me a lot of Pippen. Obviously that’s a lofty goal but he has that type of ceiling imo.
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Post#187 » by joedumars1 » Tue Nov 28, 2023 11:40 pm

Hand him the keys. Let him try to become Giannis light
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Post#188 » by Laimbeer » Thu Dec 7, 2023 8:06 pm

NBA ROOKIE RANKINGS
11-5-2023

01 Victor Wembanyama
02 Chet Holmgren
03 Ausar Thompson
...
11 Marcus Sasser

https://nbarankings.theringer.com/rookie-rankings
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Post#189 » by Billl » Thu Dec 7, 2023 8:49 pm

And Chet is from the prior year draft class, so that would have Ausar as #2 of the 2023 draft. Now if he can just learn to hit a spotup 3.
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Post#190 » by 7r5ur » Thu Dec 7, 2023 9:50 pm

Laimbeer wrote:NBA ROOKIE RANKINGS
11-5-2023

01 Victor Wembanyama
02 Chet Holmgren
03 Ausar Thompson
...
11 Marcus Sasser

https://nbarankings.theringer.com/rookie-rankings

That ranking is gonna tank because I think his value is really destroyed as a bench player. You need him out there guarding the best opposing player and taking advantage of playing with Cade/Bojan's presence as a cutter on offense. With Duren likely out for a bit I'd put him in the starting lineup in the dunker spot and have Stew at the 5. Easy Cade/Ivey/Bojan/Ausar/Stew starting lineup for me.
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Post#191 » by disoblige » Fri Dec 8, 2023 4:21 pm

trade ausar to us if you going to bench him
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Post#192 » by 7r5ur » Fri Dec 8, 2023 4:54 pm

disoblige wrote:trade ausar to us if you going to bench him

Cool cool, Ausar for Barnes works. :D
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Post#193 » by Cowology » Fri Dec 8, 2023 5:28 pm

Ausar has been fantastic with his energy and defensive instincts, but it's also clear that the game is moving way too fast for him right now. He looks lost offensively. He's lost defensively as well, but his ability to recover masks that really well. He's going to be a top 5 defender in the league, and we should continue to put him on the other teams top threat, but bringing him off the bench is not a terrible idea.

We sort of got ourselves into trouble the past few years with depth & injuries. We've also forced certain players into the lineup for whatever reason(s). Now taking those players and putting them on the bench feels like a demotion or punishment. It's not.

We need to hit a critical mass of players on the floor who are able to simply execute. Forget talent. We just need enough guys on the floor who understand the offensive & defensive assignments so the team has some hope of cohesiveness. We can't have 4-5 guys all running around like chickens with their heads cut off. That means more vets in your starting lineup so that your key 1-2 guys can have the consistency they need to be able to develop & execute.

That puts the other young guys in the supporting bench role they should be in for their development.

The problem is we don't have enough quality vets. Monte is hurt, Burks isn't quite good enough & Harris is trash. Sooo, we keep winding up with guys in/out of the starting lineup and an overall deficiency in our ability to execute that stunts everybodies development. sigh...
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Post#194 » by Invictus88 » Fri Dec 8, 2023 8:36 pm

Cowology wrote:Ausar has been fantastic with his energy and defensive instincts, but it's also clear that the game is moving way too fast for him right now. He looks lost offensively. He's lost defensively as well, but his ability to recover masks that really well. He's going to be a top 5 defender in the league, and we should continue to put him on the other teams top threat, but bringing him off the bench is not a terrible idea.

We sort of got ourselves into trouble the past few years with depth & injuries. We've also forced certain players into the lineup for whatever reason(s). Now taking those players and putting them on the bench feels like a demotion or punishment. It's not.

We need to hit a critical mass of players on the floor who are able to simply execute. Forget talent. We just need enough guys on the floor who understand the offensive & defensive assignments so the team has some hope of cohesiveness. We can't have 4-5 guys all running around like chickens with their heads cut off. That means more vets in your starting lineup so that your key 1-2 guys can have the consistency they need to be able to develop & execute.

That puts the other young guys in the supporting bench role they should be in for their development.

The problem is we don't have enough quality vets. Monte is hurt, Burks isn't quite good enough & Harris is trash. Sooo, we keep winding up with guys in/out of the starting lineup and an overall deficiency in our ability to execute that stunts everybodies development. sigh...


I think I just had a senior moment. I read you mentioning Harris and was like: "Who is that?". I had to look at the Pistons roster to remember you were referencing Joe Harris. Then again given his contributions to the team thus far maybe forgetting he exists is about right...
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Post#195 » by 7r5ur » Sat Dec 9, 2023 3:39 am

Cowology wrote:Ausar has been fantastic with his energy and defensive instincts, but it's also clear that the game is moving way too fast for him right now. He looks lost offensively. He's lost defensively as well, but his ability to recover masks that really well. He's going to be a top 5 defender in the league, and we should continue to put him on the other teams top threat, but bringing him off the bench is not a terrible idea.

We sort of got ourselves into trouble the past few years with depth & injuries. We've also forced certain players into the lineup for whatever reason(s). Now taking those players and putting them on the bench feels like a demotion or punishment. It's not.

We need to hit a critical mass of players on the floor who are able to simply execute. Forget talent. We just need enough guys on the floor who understand the offensive & defensive assignments so the team has some hope of cohesiveness. We can't have 4-5 guys all running around like chickens with their heads cut off. That means more vets in your starting lineup so that your key 1-2 guys can have the consistency they need to be able to develop & execute.

That puts the other young guys in the supporting bench role they should be in for their development.

The problem is we don't have enough quality vets. Monte is hurt, Burks isn't quite good enough & Harris is trash. Sooo, we keep winding up with guys in/out of the starting lineup and an overall deficiency in our ability to execute that stunts everybodies development. sigh...

I think Ausar works a whole lot better in a group of vets (or just good players) rather than a rag-tag bench brigade of all young guys. His offense is going to come from a lot of cuts and movement. He was figuring out how to score without having to shoot a bunch of threes until basically that one game where Monty benched him for a few turnovers, and then suddenly he has looked super hesitant and not sure what he's supposed to do. Like he's second guessing every shot or drive. You see similar things from Ivey, when he was way better last year just playing his game. The team was better too (somehow).
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Post#196 » by DBC10 » Sat Dec 9, 2023 3:44 am

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Cowology wrote:Ausar has been fantastic with his energy and defensive instincts, but it's also clear that the game is moving way too fast for him right now. He looks lost offensively. He's lost defensively as well, but his ability to recover masks that really well. He's going to be a top 5 defender in the league, and we should continue to put him on the other teams top threat, but bringing him off the bench is not a terrible idea.

We sort of got ourselves into trouble the past few years with depth & injuries. We've also forced certain players into the lineup for whatever reason(s). Now taking those players and putting them on the bench feels like a demotion or punishment. It's not.

We need to hit a critical mass of players on the floor who are able to simply execute. Forget talent. We just need enough guys on the floor who understand the offensive & defensive assignments so the team has some hope of cohesiveness. We can't have 4-5 guys all running around like chickens with their heads cut off. That means more vets in your starting lineup so that your key 1-2 guys can have the consistency they need to be able to develop & execute.

That puts the other young guys in the supporting bench role they should be in for their development.

The problem is we don't have enough quality vets. Monte is hurt, Burks isn't quite good enough & Harris is trash. Sooo, we keep winding up with guys in/out of the starting lineup and an overall deficiency in our ability to execute that stunts everybodies development. sigh...

I think Ausar works a whole lot better in a group of vets rather than a rag-tag bench brigade of all young guys. His offense is going to come from a lot of cuts and movement. He was figuring out how to score without having to shoot a bunch of threes until basically that one game where Monty benched him for a few turnovers, and then suddenly he has looked super hesitant and not sure what he's supposed to do. Like he's second guessing every shot or drive. You see similar things from Ivey, when he was way better last year just playing his game. The team was better too (somehow).


Well, also the team was straight up better coached with an actual coach that gives a damn. We need to empower guys by recognizing exactly what they're good at and what position they're good at and let loose. It's clear, that's not happening right now

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