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Bears 2023 thread V

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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#821 » by Jeffster81 » Sun Nov 26, 2023 4:20 pm

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Mindcrime wrote:Early draft plan:
1.Harrison Jr

2.Trade down for late 1st/mid 2nd

3.McCarthy

4.Van Pran

5.Jim Harbaugh( he kind of knows the QB :))


I agree almost totally. But I would draft Nix rather than McCarthy. Given a little time and some weapons and Nix is deadly. Best accuracy in FBS history. Great anticipation. Can fit the ball into tight windows. Despite playing in the rain a lot in Oregon he has ZERO fumbles this year. Only 2 INTs. 3,900 yards, 37 TDs. He will move the chains, give you a time of possession advantage, and when opportunities are there he can deliver the dagger long ball. The biggest reason I prefer Nix, despite his age, is that he doesn't beat himself. Very smart. Calm under pressure. Decent size at 6' 3" 220 lbs. Get a Center (Van Pran would be perfect) and add Harrison, resign Mooney and Nix would put up nice numbers.


I'm not high on Nix. If he is a 3rd round pick, fine, but not before then.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#822 » by Almost Retired » Sun Nov 26, 2023 4:27 pm

Jeffster81 wrote:
Almost Retired wrote:
Mindcrime wrote:Early draft plan:
1.Harrison Jr

2.Trade down for late 1st/mid 2nd

3.McCarthy

4.Van Pran

5.Jim Harbaugh( he kind of knows the QB :))


I agree almost totally. But I would draft Nix rather than McCarthy. Given a little time and some weapons and Nix is deadly. Best accuracy in FBS history. Great anticipation. Can fit the ball into tight windows. Despite playing in the rain a lot in Oregon he has ZERO fumbles this year. Only 2 INTs. 3,900 yards, 37 TDs. He will move the chains, give you a time of possession advantage, and when opportunities are there he can deliver the dagger long ball. The biggest reason I prefer Nix, despite his age, is that he doesn't beat himself. Very smart. Calm under pressure. Decent size at 6' 3" 220 lbs. Get a Center (Van Pran would be perfect) and add Harrison, resign Mooney and Nix would put up nice numbers.


I'm not high on Nix. If he is a 3rd round pick, fine, but not before then.


He will go in the First round, between 5 and 15. Too many teams need a QB.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#823 » by Almost Retired » Sun Nov 26, 2023 4:31 pm

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Dresden wrote:I liked that tight end from MI- Overland. He's only a sophomore, so I don't know if he will come out or not. He's the same size as Kmet, and looks like a good receiver. Would be a good get in the 4th-5th round.

Marvin Harrison looked really good. Whoever gets him is going to be happy.

I thought the Ohio QB looked better than McCarthy, but he had much better receivers.


McCarthy made some tough throws yesterday. His numbers don’t look the best since they run a ton.

He’s a perfect candidate for drafting later in the 1st round and making sure he sits a year behind someone.


If Harbaugh stays then I think McCarthy should stay in school another year. Gain some more experience. He could vault himself up to a Top 5 pick in 2025 if he did that. He's still pretty young. The kid needs more consistency. A better grasp of defenses. And a chance to throw a bit more than he had to do this season. But if Harbaugh jumps McCarthy is sure to follow.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#824 » by Almost Retired » Sun Nov 26, 2023 4:41 pm

This will be a very deep draft in 2024. Lots of quality talent to go around into the 3rd day. It would be great if Fields showed enough to roll with him because trading down and getting a lower 1st in 2024, more Day 2 picks and a first in 2025 plus filler would go a long way in filling out our weak spots. If we don't get Harrison I really like Rome Odunze as my 2nd favorite receiver in the draft. We could add a productive Edge like Latu. Interior help on the D-Line with T'Vondre Sweat. A center like Van Pran. Secondary depth. Poles picked pretty well in 2023. Another solid draft plus a new coaching staff and we could contend in the Division by next year.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#825 » by Dresden » Sun Nov 26, 2023 5:39 pm

Speaking of receivers, that little guy, Conception, from NC State really looks good. Very quick and elusive, a lot of YAC.

There will be some good NCAA games next weekend- GA v AL, WAS v OR. We will see Penix v Nix in the latter. I haven't watched a full game of Nix yet. His numbers are impressive. I think he's solidly the #3 QB in the draft. I'd still go with Maye or Caleb if I had the chance though. Solidify the line with the Bears own pick, unless Braxton really looks like he can make it at LT. For sure target a center in round 2, or 3 at the latest. Get a guard as well. I think receivers you can take a bit later, if you have a star QB.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#826 » by Almost Retired » Sun Nov 26, 2023 6:23 pm

Dresden wrote:Speaking of receivers, that little guy, Conception, from NC State really looks good. Very quick and elusive, a lot of YAC.

There will be some good NCAA games next weekend- GA v AL, WAS v OR. We will see Penix v Nix in the latter. I haven't watched a full game of Nix yet. His numbers are impressive. I think he's solidly the #3 QB in the draft. I'd still go with Maye or Caleb if I had the chance though. Solidify the line with the Bears own pick, unless Braxton really looks like he can make it at LT. For sure target a center in round 2, or 3 at the latest. Get a guard as well. I think receivers you can take a bit later, if you have a star QB.


I once lived in Oregon for about 15 years. I like the Ducks. High octane offense usually. I've watched many Duck games this year. I'm very impressed with Nix. Yes, his numbers are very solid. Caleb might deliver more spectacular plays, but you have to live with his fumbles and INTs. Maye has that stature and arm. But honestly I've watched NC a few times and he doesn't "wow" me as much as he does to others on the board. Nix plays the QB position like a Tom Brady or Joe Burrow. Constantly hitting the underneath routes with deadly accuracy. Keeps those chains moving. Keeps his offense on the field. Very few mistakes. He doesn't beat himself. Great anticipation on his throws. He'll nickel and dime you to death until you commit to stopping those underneath routes, and then he'll stick a shiv in your liver with a long TD. Like that throw he made to Troy Franklin in the AZ State game a few Saturdays ago. If you give Nix weapons and a decent O-Line he will be very successful.. I think the Heisman this year is between Nix and Jayden Daniels. Daniels has the superior numbers when you add in his rushing yards. He probably deserves it. But Nix is on a team with the better record.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#827 » by Jimako10 » Sun Nov 26, 2023 6:39 pm

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JustBuzzin wrote:Yes it was known!

We have the worst owner in the NFL. The guy had Bryce as his QB the moment we traded up. He didn't even throw at the combine that should have been a red flag!

Props to his agent for hiding his lack of arm strength. Our stupid owner ignored it and took him because he was simply his guy.

I'm kind of jealous of you guys we set you up to have a major turnaround. If you end up with a QB and Harrison Jr that is a hell of a foundation to build on.

Yes I also miss DJ Moore lol


Might go down as one of the worst trades of all time for us smh

weren't you guys set to trade up to #2 w/ the texans, then when the bears asked for DJ you did that instead?

The Bears were trading down to #2 with the Texans. Then, the Bears were trading down again with the Panthers. But the Texans backed out.


Yea...seems like Houston found out that Carolina wanted Young.....Houston cancels their trade up banking on Carolina trading up with the Bears instead. Houston saves some assets and is also able to trade up to 3 for Will Anderson. Some wizard GMing there from Houston.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#828 » by patryk7754 » Sun Nov 26, 2023 6:40 pm

Thinking ahead a little. We should definitely draft Ollie Gordon in 2026
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#829 » by Dresden » Sun Nov 26, 2023 9:05 pm

NE lost to NYG. NE is definitely going to be in play for either the #1 overall, or at least being ahead of us.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#830 » by Dresden » Sun Nov 26, 2023 9:05 pm

CAR losing to TN at least.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#831 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Sun Nov 26, 2023 9:18 pm

Seemed like both NE and NYG were trying to lose. Giants have Barkley back there and run 12 times, and drop back to pass over 30 times with DeVito. And they still won.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#832 » by fleet » Sun Nov 26, 2023 9:19 pm

Jimako10 wrote:
fleet wrote:
dice wrote:weren't you guys set to trade up to #2 w/ the texans, then when the bears asked for DJ you did that instead?

The Bears were trading down to #2 with the Texans. Then, the Bears were trading down again with the Panthers. But the Texans backed out.


Yea...seems like Houston found out that Carolina wanted Young.....Houston cancels their trade up banking on Carolina trading up with the Bears instead. Houston saves some assets and is also able to trade up to 3 for Will Anderson. Some wizard GMing there from Houston.

Seems to be the case. That is a gamble though if they only had Stroud on their board at #2. Have a feeling Richardson was an acceptable backup plan if the Panthers surprised them to take Stroud. I bet a lot of NFL teams wouldn’t have taken Young. The Panthers owner is one of those meddlers that destroys a front office .
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#833 » by MalagaBulls » Sun Nov 26, 2023 9:23 pm

Josh Allen Jags having a monster game. Sign him in FA 4/88M
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#834 » by Dominator83 » Sun Nov 26, 2023 9:48 pm

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JustBuzzin wrote:Panthers fan here...

Since you guys will likely get the #1 pick via us. How about trading us Justin Fields in the offseason for a 3rd round pick?

Bryce Young doesn't look like he has the skills to be a franchise QB. I honestly think Fields has a better chance at finding success moving forward.

Please don’t give up on the kid it’s his rookie season with his main weapon is a average 34 year old receiver


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This Bears fan says yes! But as mentioned, I highly doubt Carolina throws in the towel on Young till atleast after year 2
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#835 » by HoopsterJones » Sun Nov 26, 2023 9:52 pm

TEN, NYG, ATL win
CAR lose

But NE also lost so that’s the only one to be concerned about.

Hopefully ARI somehow can beat the LAR.

Bears sitting at #1 and #4 as of right now.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#836 » by Chicago-Bull-E » Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:06 pm

MalagaBulls wrote:Josh Allen Jags having a monster game. Sign him in FA 4/88M


Edge class next year is strong. Allen, Burns, Young, Hunter, Uche would all be great additions.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#837 » by Dresden » Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:10 pm

HoopsterJones wrote:TEN, NYG, ATL win
CAR lose

But NE also lost so that’s the only one to be concerned about.

Hopefully ARI somehow can beat the LAR.

Bears sitting at #1 and #4 as of right now.


NE has Chargers and Jets at home, so maybe they win one of those.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#838 » by molepharmer » Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:47 pm

Dresden wrote:
HoopsterJones wrote:TEN, NYG, ATL win
CAR lose

But NE also lost so that’s the only one to be concerned about.

Hopefully ARI somehow can beat the LAR.

Bears sitting at #1 and #4 as of right now.


NE has Chargers and Jets at home, so maybe they win one of those.

Those two games are probably the only games NE even remotely has any chance of winning. For some screwy reason NFL scheduled NE for three prime time games in a row; Thur night vs Pitt, Mon night vs KC, and Sun night vs Den. I do think Carolina does play well enough to possibly win two more games considering their remaining schedule.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#839 » by JustBuzzin » Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:50 pm

Dominator83 wrote:
Bulls69 wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:Panthers fan here...

Since you guys will likely get the #1 pick via us. How about trading us Justin Fields in the offseason for a 3rd round pick?

Bryce Young doesn't look like he has the skills to be a franchise QB. I honestly think Fields has a better chance at finding success moving forward.

Please don’t give up on the kid it’s his rookie season with his main weapon is a average 34 year old receiver


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This Bears fan says yes! But as mentioned, I highly doubt Carolina throws in the towel on Young till atleast after year 2

Our entire fanbase has pretty much given up on him.

He looked bad once again vs the Titans.

Crazy we are going to gift you guys the #1 overall pick.
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Re: Bears 2023 thread V 

Post#840 » by HearshotKDS » Sun Nov 26, 2023 10:56 pm

Any given Sunday but I think CAR just blew their best chance to get to 3 wins today. Maybe they beat TB at home in week 18 but their remaining schedule is better teams with incentives to win out. The remaining games look like bad matchups too, granted every team looks like a bad matchup for the '23 CAR panthers.

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