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Hawks Tarred and Feathered! Victory Cigar vs ATL 11/26

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Who smokes the big cigar?

Tatum
37
35%
Brown
8
7%
White
19
18%
Horf
18
17%
Banton
0
No votes
Pritchard
0
No votes
Hauser
5
5%
Kornet
0
No votes
Queta
19
18%
Other/Coach/Team
1
1%
 
Total votes: 107

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Re: Hawks Tarred and Feathered! Victory Cigar vs ATL 11/26 

Post#41 » by zoyathedestroya » Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:16 am

Celtics are now 11-43 when shooting below 28% from 3 since 2018-19. Rare feat. The 15-rebound edge helped a ton. 17-8 advantage in second chance points. 26-11 advantage in points off turnovers. Basically, we won with our hustle.
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Post#42 » by Fierce1 » Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:17 am

The difference between the turnovers of JT and JB is JB's turnovers are something you see in high school.
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Post#43 » by Lee Van Cleef » Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:19 am

Queta grabbed 10 boards in 15 minutes, amazing! If he can block shots as well, we have our defensive-minded big.
It’s good to win, but I’m still stuck at the loss against the Magic. They are too tough and tall for us. I would do anything not to face them in the playoffs.
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Post#44 » by brackdan70 » Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:22 am

GoCeltics123 wrote:Dalano Banton has a much higher upside than people think IMO, he has a great feel for the game but he just can't shoot

Ben Simmons with handles and a much smaller contract.
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Post#45 » by zoyathedestroya » Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:29 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:Celtics are now 11-43 when shooting below 28% from 3 since 2018-19. Rare feat. The 15-rebound edge helped a ton. 17-8 advantage in second chance points. 26-11 advantage in points off turnovers. Basically, we won with our hustle.

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Post#46 » by TheMartian » Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:29 am

return2glory wrote:Nice win.

VC goes to Horford for the season high 15 rebounds and Queta for 7 points and 10 rebounds in only 15 minutes.
Horford and Queta's rebounding were the difference in the game along with the team defense. We outrebounded the Hawks 58-43.

I said before the game that Joe needs to go with Queta and Stevens. One out of two isn't bad.

Tatum and Brown combined for 7 assists and 8 TOs and shot 1-7 combined in the last 4:20 of the game. The only basket being made by a Tatum layup off a fast break and a good pass from White.


6 of those TOVs were JT's. He needs to work on taking care of the ball.
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Post#47 » by playa-hater » Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:30 am

Shak_Celts wrote:korny didn't even play poorly, he just had about 2 mins of getting cooked but what was he supposed to do if he's told to drop? feel bad for him because that stretch pulled the groin of my psyche.


For me it has less to do with "corny" having a good or bad game, It has more to do with We know exactly what he is about at this point. Clearly Queta in a small sample size shows some promise. And I think clearly he is better at the things We need more, such as rebounding and defense. Certainly have to respect his high energy..


At the very bare minimum, we need to see how well he can play in a bigger role before the trade deadline. And certainly more than Kornet.
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Post#48 » by zoyathedestroya » Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:33 am

They definitely have more trust in his ballhandling and decision-making than I do.
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His aggression can be a double-edged sword sometimes.
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Post#49 » by Shak_Celts » Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:34 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:They definitely have more trust in his ballhandling a d decision-making than I do.
Read on Twitter

His aggression can be a double-edged sword sometimes.

a lot.
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Post#50 » by Shak_Celts » Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:39 am

playa-hater wrote:
Shak_Celts wrote:korny didn't even play poorly, he just had about 2 mins of getting cooked but what was he supposed to do if he's told to drop? feel bad for him because that stretch pulled the groin of my psyche.


For me it has less to do with "corny" having a good or bad game, It has more to do with We know exactly what he is about at this point. Clearly Queta in a small sample size shows some promise. And I think clearly he is better at the things We need more, such as rebounding and defense. Certainly have to respect hi high energy..


At the very bare minimum, we need to see how well he can play in a bigger roll before the trade deadline. And certainly more than Kornet.

we do know, he's consistent. That has been a good thing. tough that his body cant match his mind.
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Post#51 » by 165bows » Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:41 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:They definitely have more trust in his ballhandling a d decision-making than I do.
Read on Twitter

His aggression can be a double-edged sword sometimes.

I think we as fans don’t often like to acknowledge it but the team does imo spend a lot of time developing their guys during the regular season.

That they aren’t always going to their strongest move isn’t a bug but a feature.
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Post#52 » by Fierce1 » Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:48 am

You are what your record says you are.

Didn't a football coach said that?

Some of the Celtic fans are just asking for perfection.

As long as the team keeps winning.

This Celtics team is still not at 100% because of changes made in the offseason.

Give them time.
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Post#53 » by playa-hater » Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:49 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:They definitely have more trust in his ballhandling a d decision-making than I do.
Read on Twitter

His aggression can be a double-edged sword sometimes.


Don't know how long I can last and NOT take this bait. :nonono:
2 things need to go.. my lack of spell check and Joe.. :nod:
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Re: Hawks Tarred and Feathered! Victory Cigar vs ATL 11/26 

Post#54 » by Bad-Thoma » Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:50 am

zoyathedestroya wrote:They definitely have more trust in his ballhandling a d decision-making than I do.
Read on Twitter

His aggression can be a double-edged sword sometimes.


Considering how far he's come since he was a rookie maybe it's still something they feel he can develop, thus the force feeding with the second unit. He's had some decent games lately as a distributor, maybe consistency will come later.
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Post#55 » by Fierce1 » Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:51 am

playa-hater wrote:
zoyathedestroya wrote:They definitely have more trust in his ballhandling a d decision-making than I do.
Read on Twitter

His aggression can be a double-edged sword sometimes.


Don't know how long I can last and NOT take this bait. :nonono:

We have no choice.

It is what it is.
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Post#56 » by Fierce1 » Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:52 am

Bad-Thoma wrote:
zoyathedestroya wrote:They definitely have more trust in his ballhandling a d decision-making than I do.
Read on Twitter

His aggression can be a double-edged sword sometimes.


Considering how far he's come since he was a rookie maybe it's still something they feel he can develop, thus the force feeding with the second unit. He's had some decent games lately as a distributor, maybe consistency will come later.

That's plausible.

I just hope that "later" is not 5 years from now.
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Post#57 » by playa-hater » Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:52 am

Fierce1 wrote:You are what your record says you are.

Didn't a football coach said that?

Some of the Celtic fans are just asking for perfection.

As long as the team keeps winning.

This Celtics team is still not at 100% because of changes made in the offseason.

Give them time.


No one is expecting perfection. Records don't mean Shet.. Can't speak for others but I just want to see more than 1 Chip in 38 years... or is it 40?? I am starting to lose count.
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Post#58 » by Fierce1 » Mon Nov 27, 2023 2:55 am

playa-hater wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:You are what your record says you are.

Didn't a football coach said that?

Some of the Celtic fans are just asking for perfection.

As long as the team keeps winning.

This Celtics team is still not at 100% because of changes made in the offseason.

Give them time.


No one is expecting perfection. Records don't mean Shet.. Can't speak for others but I just want to see more than 1 Chip in 38 years... or is it 40?? I am starting to lose count.

That's just the high standard of Celtic fans.

Teams like the Jazz have no chip in their history.

The NBA is for entertainment, first and foremost, and getting a chip is just a bonus.
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Post#59 » by Hal14 » Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:05 am

Fierce1 wrote:
GoCeltics123 wrote:Dalano Banton has a much higher upside than people think IMO, he has a great feel for the game but he just can't shoot

That's going to be a problem.

The Celtics' system requires you to make shots when open.

If he's on the floor with 4 shooters (KP or Al at the 5) it's not that much of an issue.
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Post#60 » by Fencer reregistered » Mon Nov 27, 2023 3:06 am

playa-hater wrote:
Fierce1 wrote:You are what your record says you are.

Didn't a football coach said that?

Some of the Celtic fans are just asking for perfection.

As long as the team keeps winning.

This Celtics team is still not at 100% because of changes made in the offseason.

Give them time.


No one is expecting perfection. Records don't mean Shet.. Can't speak for others but I just want to see more than 1 Chip in 38 years... or is it 40?? I am starting to lose count.


Parcells quote.

Which reminds me of:
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Who said that?

JACK
Who said what?

JORDAN
If you want me to cook the meal, you gotta let me shop for the groceries.

JACK
Bill Parcells.

JORDAN
Who’s that?

JACK
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