76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Malcolm Brogdon continues to be the best value in terms of trade cost, contract, and fit with our roster. I assume we should be able to get him for no more than a 1st and expiring salary (Morris + Kork). He moves into the starting SG spot and moves Melton to the bench, which in turn moves Beverley out of the rotation.

PG Maxey | Melton | Beverley
SG Brogdon | Oubre | Springer
SF Batum | House | Martin
PF Harris | Covington |
CE Embiid | Reed | Bamba

That's a strong 9-man playoff rotation. House and Bev can be the 10th and 11th if needed.

Portland is going to ask for a 1st for him. I don't know that he's worth that with his injury issues, but I do like him. He'd be a big help.

[the_process]

I'm not a fan of either. Too old and too injured.

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With you there

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I read a lot of people here want to sign OG. But what if the Raptors go all out to keep him. Is Pascal Siakam such a bad #2 choice? Nurse knows him, he has been a part of a championship team, he fits the Joel timeline and the team would still have enough money to sign a Spencer Dinwiddle and a Kelly Obure to reasonable contracts.

Right now Maxey needs some help. He needs someone to take the load off of him. And Melton is more suited for a back up role. Trade for a Fultz for the season or someone that can handle the rock. Then I believe this team could make some serious noise in the playoffs.

If you can’t sign OG you move on to the next wing.

But if Toronto was going to sign him… why didn’t they extend him? Because they don’t want to give him the full bag.

For the rest of this year, the Sixers need two guards. One to start with Maxey, and one to back up Maxey. I also would think it’s preferable to let Springer be the 4th guard because you need to know if he can play or not, and if not you have the Beverley emergency card to play.

[GutUNC]

The version of Oubre that shoots high 30s from 3 and plays hard every possession may be. TBD if he stays that guy.

Yeah, I remain puzzled why so many people are valuing 8 games over 8 years. He's on a vet minimum and he's done a really nice job in 8 Sixers games but there's a long track record that speaks to a different player.

I value heart and passion, Oubre has that, over the years I've learned that this is really important, guys like Simmons, Soften, Harris and to a lesser extent Embiid don't really have that passion. Maxey has it and then Oubre does too

Right, and that's not who Oubre has been for 8 years. Could he have changed his stripes in Year 9...maybe, but I doubt it.

But as a league minimum guy who fits nicely on this roster for a year, great!

[76ciology]

We dont have to re-sign Oubre till the end of the season. So its obvious that re-signing Oubre means we will see how he performs this season, rather than basing it on 8 games.

But if he ever performs well this season, do we say “it’s just a one year sample size”?

That’s the real question.

[76ciology]

I also think most people or even all people are grounded on their expectation on Oubre. Because if its not then there wont be any of these trade discussions for Lavine, OG and etc.

These trade discussions are because of the doubts in our current guys.

That said, Oubre has been a great fit for our team so far. The upgrade from PJ to Tucker is one of the biggest reason why we looked way better than last year’s team.

[M2J]

I don't care what timeline, mode, or mindset you're on - Lavine is an oft-injured, overpaid, empty stat compiling losing player whose presence will guarantee that Embiid's legacy here will be second round flameouts.

Great. I totally disagree that they'd be stuck in the 2nd.
What are your realistic solutions that can help get out of the 2nd round?

Not to jump in on this, but I'm going to take a shot at the question itself. The realistic solution would be for Embiid to be at full health and at the peak of his game during the playoffs. I don't think adding Lavine is the answer with this at all. First and foremost Joel Embiid has to be on top of his game. If and when he ever is (while in his prime), we will be in the Finals. I think the team is a small addition in the backcourt away from being a serious Finals-contending team. Health has been our biggest issue.

Some nice responses to that question, but I'll jump on this one in particular, because my mindset is to sort of off set this possibility and the realistic issue. Very fortunately and knock on wood, Joel has always seemed to show up in the second round, just not be fully healthy. He is still in those series ELITE defensively, and garners serious attention offensively. This system allows him to get touches without necessarily having to play one-on-one ball. Tyrese and Joels two-man game is beautiful to watch and they step in the right direction for those playoff droughts where you can play off of Joel's attention and have movement off of him with a multi-layered scorer. I think adding Lavine to do the same thing, with Joel chipping in 15 to 25, and playing great defense gives you the best chance even if he is the same player he has been over the last number of years. If he has a truly MVP post season, with that type of offensive firepower. Then what is the problem? Who is in their way?

I mean legitimately the Celtics are playing a guard on him, to be able to switch off onto Maxey whether it's a pick-and-roll or the two-man game with the dribble hand off. Add another one with even more bounce, should be great.

[ProcessDoctor]

After the OKC win:

#3 NET RTG
#3 ORTG
#13 DRTG

[Stanford]

After the OKC win:

#3 NET RTG
#3 ORTG
#13 DRTG

Do you know the SoS?

[76ciology]

After the OKC win:

#3 NET RTG
#3 ORTG
#13 DRTG

Do you know the SoS?

Sos: HTTP://WWW.NBA.COM/STATS

[GutUNC]

I also think most people or even all people are grounded on their expectation on Oubre. Because if its not then there wont be any of these trade discussions for Lavine, OG and etc.

These trade discussions are because of the doubts in our current guys.

That said, Oubre has been a great fit for our team so far. The upgrade from PJ to Tucker is one of the biggest reason why we looked way better than last year’s team.

You might have missed the discussion on why he should be our last posession option over Embiid and Maxey.

He's been a selfish, airheaded chucker for 8 seasons. He's on a vet minimum so whatever but any expectation above him being a volume scorer off the bench is possible, but optimistic. I'm glad he's off to a good start here and long may it continue.

[Kobblehead]

Jerami Grant and OG Anunoby continue to be my top 2 targets.

[ProcessDoctor]

I really wonder if Memphis will try to undo their Marcus Smart decision after their horrible start this season. Would probably prefer him to the other attainable targets this season. Brogdon would still be my other choice. Still don’t think it’s wise to trade picks for OG or Siakam.

[Stanford]

Still don’t think it’s wise to trade picks for OG or Siakam.

Indeed. Siakim is Tobias all over again.

[Covi_Marsh]

With you there

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I read a lot of people here want to sign OG. But what if the Raptors go all out to keep him. Is Pascal Siakam such a bad #2 choice? Nurse knows him, he has been a part of a championship team, he fits the Joel timeline and the team would still have enough money to sign a Spencer Dinwiddle and a Kelly Obure to reasonable contracts.

Right now Maxey needs some help. He needs someone to take the load off of him. And Melton is more suited for a back up role. Trade for a Fultz for the season or someone that can handle the rock. Then I believe this team could make some serious noise in the playoffs.

If you can’t sign OG you move on to the next wing.

But if Toronto was going to sign him… why didn’t they extend him? Because they don’t want to give him the full bag.

For the rest of this year, the Sixers need two guards. One to start with Maxey, and one to back up Maxey. I also would think it’s preferable to let Springer be the 4th guard because you need to know if he can play or not, and if not you have the Beverley emergency card to play.

They haven’t extended him because the max they can offer in an extension is 4 yrs 117 mil. As a free agent he can top that even if it’s still with Toronto.

[the_process]

Lauri Markkanen is the guy Morey should spend it all for.

That would still leave them about 40M in cap room still in the summer to boot.

[Kobblehead]

Lauri Markkanen is the guy Morey should spend it all for.

That would still leave them about 40M in cap room still in the summer to boot.

Who is Markkanen defending on the Celtics in a playoff series?

And as soon as he gets on the Sixers, his touches get dramatically reduced and he's relegated to a Ilyasova/Saric stretch F role.

I think we should ask one simple question to any F target we come across: "Can this person defend Tatum/Brown in a playoff series?"

Need athletic defensive Fs with as much jumpshot competence as possible IMO.

[billy bremner]

Caruso and OG would be a perfect fit against the Celtics

[Iverson Armband]

Just give up whatever (within reason) for OG and be done with it.

[phillynative]

Lauri Markkanen is the guy Morey should spend it all for.

That would still leave them about 40M in cap room still in the summer to boot.

Who is Markkanen defending on the Celtics in a playoff series?

And as soon as he gets on the Sixers, his touches get dramatically reduced and he's relegated to a Ilyasova/Saric stretch F role.

I think we should ask one simple question to any F target we come across: "Can this person defend Tatum/Brown in a playoff series?"

Need athletic defensive Fs with as much jumpshot competence as possible IMO.

Exactly, the Celtics are an obstacle that some fans aren't taking in consideration when thinking of these trades and signings. It's also why if we bring in another playmaker it can't be another small guard. We already have 3 of them . Thats 3 players that have a hard time guarding their 4 best players.

Also another reason why Oubre could be a key piece is that he's the one player that can guard all 4 of Holiday,White,Brown and Tatum. Cov too but hes not as quick as Oubre, so he gets beat off the dribble at times. Springer may have that ability to guard all 4 but he's inexperienced...

[Bum Adebayo]

I also think most people or even all people are grounded on their expectation on Oubre. Because if its not then there wont be any of these trade discussions for Lavine, OG and etc.

These trade discussions are because of the doubts in our current guys.

That said, Oubre has been a great fit for our team so far. The upgrade from PJ to Tucker is one of the biggest reason why we looked way better than last year’s team.

You might have missed the discussion on why he should be our last posession option over Embiid and Maxey.

He's been a selfish, airheaded chucker for 8 seasons. He's on a vet minimum so whatever but any expectation above him being a volume scorer off the bench is possible, but optimistic. I'm glad he's off to a good start here and long may it continue.

Wow this is wrong on many levels.
Oubre has been badly used all of his career, most teams are clueless when it comes to basic player evaluations, it is evident to the naked eye that Oubre is a star waiting to break out. Besides, this Oubre is just a different player, he has a different aura with confidence and passion, he looked disinterested in his previous teams, this time it's different.