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skones · Post #1901 » by **skones** » Mon Nov 27, 2023 9:57 pm

soxperry wrote:The silver lining if AG is a total flop is that we theoretically should have the top coaching destination next offseason and its not gonna be close. We should be able to put together a top of the line staff

The same was true in 2018 and this past offseason. We did in 2018. If AG is a flop, it's malpractice, and that's the swing they took with a mature roster and an aging core. We can't afford to burn years like that.

MoreTrife · Post #1902 » by **MoreTrife** » Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:14 pm

soxperry wrote:The silver lining if AG is a total flop is that we theoretically should have the top coaching destination next offseason and its not gonna be close. We should be able to put together a top of the line staff

Woof. Hate to punt on this year. Next year Dame will be 34, Middleton 34, Brook 36!, Giannis 29-30. Not sure we would be the top destination. That's why AG looking baddd hurts so much. This year is important.

raferfenix · Post #1903 » by **raferfenix** » Mon Nov 27, 2023 10:16 pm

What're the chances we're already talking to Mike D'Antoni?

If he were to come aboard as an Associate Head Coach or just a lowly assistant he could like his chances of Griffin not being long for Milwaukee. Or maybe the combo works.

Just now seeing Pringles was a finalist in Portland before they hired Chauncey.

Read on Twitter

Karsenmitsche · Post #1904 » by **Karsenmitsche** » Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:01 pm

raferfenix wrote:What're the chances we're already talking to Mike D'Antoni?

If he were to come aboard as an Associate Head Coach or just a lowly assistant he could like his chances of Griffin not being long for Milwaukee. Or maybe the combo works.

Just now seeing Pringles was a finalist in Portland before they hired Chauncey.

Read on Twitter

Was surprised when his name never came up during the interview process this off-season. Would be a great hire.

Post #1905 » by **MickeyDavis** » Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:08 pm

He's 72, I don't think he wants to be an assistant again. He's an "advisor" in New Orleans. It's been 3+ years since he left Houston and I haven't really seen his name mentioned anywhere for a couple of years. He's probably done coaching. I always liked him though.

soxperry · Post #1906 » by **soxperry** » Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:16 pm

MoreTrife wrote:
soxperry wrote:The silver lining if AG is a total flop is that we theoretically should have the top coaching destination next offseason and its not gonna be close. We should be able to put together a top of the line staff

Woof. Hate to punt on this year. Next year Dame will be 34, Middleton 34, Brook 36!, Giannis 29-30. Not sure we would be the top destination. That's why AG looking baddd hurts so much. This year is important.

no one is punting on this year, i'm just going off of the assumption that the coaching situation is a disaster. because it is. it's not just AG, it's that we do not have a top of the line staff to assist him. hiring Griff seems to have allowed us, in part, to extend Giannis, so that's a win. But if we dont win it all we need to get serious about this.

raferfenix · Post #1907 » by **raferfenix** » Mon Nov 27, 2023 11:52 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:He's 72, I don't think he wants to be an assistant again. He's an "advisor" in New Orleans. It's been 3+ years since he left Houston and I haven't really seen his name mentioned anywhere for a couple of years. He's probably done coaching. I always liked him though.

How much do we think Brooklyn paid D’Antoni to be an assistant to Nash?

Money certainly could be a factor if the Bucks were serious if not desperate.

D’Antoni could also be enticed about turning Dame and Giannis into Nash and a freaky Amare / Marion hybrid.

Of course the Bucks could fire Grief and make Pringles the head coach out of the gate too if it’s even worse behind the scenes than what we’ve seen.

skones · Post #1908 » by **skones** » Tue Nov 28, 2023 12:37 am

raferfenix wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:He's 72, I don't think he wants to be an assistant again. He's an "advisor" in New Orleans. It's been 3+ years since he left Houston and I haven't really seen his name mentioned anywhere for a couple of years. He's probably done coaching. I always liked him though.

How much do we think Brooklyn paid D’Antoni to be an assistant to Nash?

Money certainly could be a factor if the Bucks were serious if not desperate.

D’Antoni could also be enticed about turning Dame and Giannis into Nash and a freaky Amare / Marion hybrid.

Of course the Bucks could fire Grief and make Pringles the head coach out of the gate too if it’s even worse behind the scenes than what we’ve seen.

Riffing off of this, some have complimented Griff for our players talking out problems during timeouts. While that certainly could be a positive culture thing, it could just as easily be a thing where the veteran players think Griff is a dolt for putting them in the positions they're in and they've taken it upon themselves to solve the issues out of a lack of trust that they had in Bud until they didn't.

SupremeHustle · Post #1909 » by **SupremeHustle** » Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:19 am

Hypothetically, would you trade Khris, Bobby and Marjon for LeBron?

MrHoneycutt · Post #1910 » by **MrHoneycutt** » Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:20 am

I just dropped by to see if twirl has read Lori Nickel's latest in the JS. Mike Royko, she is not.

(there's a Mike Hunt joke in there somewhere but I'm not taking it.)

SupremeHustle · Post #1911 » by **SupremeHustle** » Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:30 am

This Jordan Poole clip is hilarious. (Sorry it's on Threads. I'm not doing Twitter until, well, you know until when.)

https://www.threads.net/@ballislife/post/C0K-5k8s7_L

tedbrogen · Post #1912 » by **tedbrogen** » Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:40 am

SupremeHustle wrote:Hypothetically, would you trade Khris, Bobby and Marjon for LeBron?

Yes. LeBron would be the coach on the court and would have AG instantly fired if need be.

I’d do that even if you LeBron is leaving after this season. Dame/LeBron/Giannis easily wins the title this season. Even if there is no head coach.

tedbrogen · Post #1913 » by **tedbrogen** » Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:47 am

skones wrote:
raferfenix wrote:
MickeyDavis wrote:He's 72, I don't think he wants to be an assistant again. He's an "advisor" in New Orleans. It's been 3+ years since he left Houston and I haven't really seen his name mentioned anywhere for a couple of years. He's probably done coaching. I always liked him though.

How much do we think Brooklyn paid D’Antoni to be an assistant to Nash?

Money certainly could be a factor if the Bucks were serious if not desperate.

D’Antoni could also be enticed about turning Dame and Giannis into Nash and a freaky Amare / Marion hybrid.

Of course the Bucks could fire Grief and make Pringles the head coach out of the gate too if it’s even worse behind the scenes than what we’ve seen.

Riffing off of this, some have complimented Griff for our players talking out problems during timeouts. While that certainly could be a positive culture thing, it could just as easily be a thing where the veteran players think Griff is a dolt for putting them in the positions they're in and they've taken it upon themselves to solve the issues out of a lack of trust that they had in Bud until they didn't.

I’m of the opinion the players are running the team. We know Brook asked to play drop. We know Dame asked to play the full first quarter. We know Dame said he wanted to run PnR with Brook more. We know Brook has previously said he wanted to be used more in the lane on offense.

The only things AG installed was the dumb overly aggressive D that some guys are still playing because they like it and the zone. Everything else is the players.

This is why they should trade for a Tucker type defensive dog like Caruso or Thy. That person can help coach the D because AG is just a yes man. He’s that guy in The Wire who Freamon hand picked to supervise the Major Case Unit but really he is just there to rubber stamp everything.

Ron Swanson · Post #1914 » by **Ron Swanson** » Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:49 am

Kerr and Steph dragging Poole to an NBA championship and fooling people into believing he's a winning basketball player might be one of the most impressive feats in NBA history.

Milbucks96 · Post #1915 » by **Milbucks96** » Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:58 am

SupremeHustle wrote:Hypothetically, would you trade Khris, Bobby and Marjon for LeBron?

Hell yea lol lebron playing small ball 4 with Giannis at the 5 is unstoppable.

soxperry · Post #1916 » by **soxperry** » Tue Nov 28, 2023 3:59 am

Ron Swanson wrote:Kerr and Steph dragging Poole to an NBA championship and fooling people into believing he's a winning basketball player might be one of the most impressive feats in NBA history.

Poole that season was pre contract, fresh off of the g league roster, and pre getting smashed in the head by his teammate. i dont think they were dealing with the same nut job that you see now.

th87 · Post #1917 » by **th87** » Tue Nov 28, 2023 4:40 am

soxperry wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Kerr and Steph dragging Poole to an NBA championship and fooling people into believing he's a winning basketball player might be one of the most impressive feats in NBA history.

Poole that season was pre contract, fresh off of the g league roster, and pre getting smashed in the head by his teammate. i dont think they were dealing with the same nut job that you see now.

CTE from Draymond.

Antonio Brown-like antics in the future?

randy84 · Post #1918 » by **randy84** » Tue Nov 28, 2023 4:48 am

Ron Swanson wrote:Kerr and Steph dragging Poole to an NBA championship and fooling people into believing he's a winning basketball player might be one of the most impressive feats in NBA history.

Kind of fooled themselves though by giving him that contract.

drone3 · Post #1919 » by **drone3** » Tue Nov 28, 2023 5:46 am

Is Delon Wright still a target?

tedbrogen · Post #1920 » by **tedbrogen** » Tue Nov 28, 2023 6:17 am

randy84 wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Kerr and Steph dragging Poole to an NBA championship and fooling people into believing he's a winning basketball player might be one of the most impressive feats in NBA history.

Kind of fooled themselves though by giving him that contract.

Created another large salary slot. No such thing as bad contracts once you’re locked above the tax.