For all this hoopla over Wembanyanma, what about our own Banchero?

[tooler]

This is pathetic. These player comparisons aren’t necessary. The team is crushing it. Who cares about comparing prospects now?

[ORLMagicGirl15]

Why are we so obsessed with media attention? Let the guys play and enjoy the success, it's been a long time coming. We don't need the adoring of people who never paid attention to this team.

By the way, Orlando started off 5-20 with Paolo being great last season, so I'm not going to stomp on the Spurs for starting off bad this season. I don't care about the title "generational" there are about 10 guys with that title. If Paolo brings a championship to Orlando, he's going to be legendary to us, period!!!

[tooler]

Why are we so obsessed with media attention? Let the guys play and enjoy the success, it's been a long time coming. We don't need the adoring of people who never paid attention to this team.

You could say the same about the General Board. *ahem*

[ogmagicfan]

If there's any way to take this conversarion to something fruitful, it would be focusing on how the Magic should be having more nationally televised basketball games.

It's straight up criminal/disrespectful how we only have 1 game

[fendilim]

I think Chet v Paolo is closer when you look at the stats, but it is Paolo who is capable of being the first option, imo.

As for Wemby, lol, if you don’t see him possibly being a generational player… idk already.

[Skybox]

Lol it's too early Eyriq.....

You know I "want" Paulo to be a generational player.

Hahaha yeah, your take is the objective one. I am going to enjoy watching how they spin Wemby's rookie stats though, especially considering that they aren't going to be much different to Paolo's rookie stats.

Chet though... Oh not to have to lead an offense.

MagicMatic vision of Paulo follows very much in line with what Chet has in a PG.

If our present team had an SGA-level player in our backcourt, we could arguably contend. Other than him, I'd say we're neck and neck with OKC's fantastic team development...but there's just not the same ceiling without some reliable significant backcourt scoring. Hopefully, we'll get that piece next - we've got the trade chips and cap space if the FO has the balls.

[GameOver25]

Anyone who's been around long enough know it's hard for this franchise to receive national recognition. Always has been that way and will be that way unless we force the press/media hand.

[JoshuaPotter]

Hahaha yeah, your take is the objective one. I am going to enjoy watching how they spin Wemby's rookie stats though, especially considering that they aren't going to be much different to Paolo's rookie stats.

Chet though... Oh not to have to lead an offense.

MagicMatic vision of Paulo follows very much in line with what Chet has in a PG.

If our present team had an SGA-level player in our backcourt, we could arguably contend. Other than him, I'd say we're neck and neck with OKC's fantastic team development...but there's just not the same ceiling without some reliable significant backcourt scoring. Hopefully, we'll get that piece next - we've got the trade chips and cap space if the FO has the balls.

It's OK to say it. We clearly do not have a dominant no1 option. I do not think that Chet is that either. If people think that Chet was just sittin back injured for a year and had no development that is also not a fair assessment of him.

All in all. I agree. Just like I would say, although Chet is avg more. When the dust settles on the season he may not actually be the 2nd option on scoring. (In the same way Paulo / France could be the no 2 option, and we have no clear no3.)

[JoshuaPotter]

I need to be clear. Because even though I like Paulo a lot and I think he is the guy we need to develop into our no1 option I am not afraid to say.

- He needs to continue to work on his offensive production.
- Wemby has a higher ceiling then him
- I do not know if Chet is overall the better player. Or will be the better player when the dust settles.
- I am very content, even happy with what I see from Paulo. Happy with how he is tracking. Happy that he had an amazing rookie compaign.

I have reached an age, maturity, or maybe lack thereof wisdom to say when a better player is projected to be better then (insert whomever we have.)

At the same time, I am having plenty of fun watching Paulo, Franz, Cole, Suggs, and now Black develop. We could if Suggs / Black develop and Isaac remains healthy be a scary team for the next 10 years. So scary. I am not sure how we afford to keep them all.

[swarlesbarkley]

What I can say is that it is clear the Magic actually drafted BPA with its pick. That's all we can ask of in managment.

I don't think this is clear at all.

I liked Banchero more than a lot of people did in the pre-draft process two years ago, but there's literally another guy from that draft class who was absolutely in the mix to be taken 1st overall averaging 18.1 PPG, 8.0 RPG, 2.5 APG, 0.9 SPG, 2.3 BPG on a .564/.438/.881 slash with A+ defense.

It isn't a knock on Paolo to say Chet is a better/more impactful basketball player. Paolo's very good and I'm happy to be cheering for him, but Chet is absolutely incredible and already unquestionably a top 20 NBA player with a real chance to be top 10.

I'd rather have Wembanyama than Paolo too, and that's speaking as someone who is extremely pleased with Paolo's development.

I really like what Chet is doing for OKC and I had quite a lot of money on OKC beating GSW a couple weeks ago (thanks Chet!) but he joined a team that won a play-in game last year and that has an MVP candidate already on the roster. Chet is literally the perfect fit alongside SGA and Williams. Without SGA, I'm not sure Chet would even be comparable to Wemby or Paolo and OKC wouldn't have close to the record Orlando is rolling with now.

Obviously it's all hypothetical since Chet is playing great on OKC and Paolo is playing great on Orlando. I just think Paolo is the type of alpha star who can lead a team for the long haul and Chet is an excellent role player alongside an alpha star.

[swarlesbarkley]

Can we all agree we're thankful WeHam didn't draft Jabari?

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The difference between Wemby and Chet/Paolo comes down to skill set combined with size.

There has been no comparison for what Wemby projects to become.

Im not sure why it matters if people think Paolo is better than Chet or Wemby. What matters is they win and that depends on team basketball regardless of what the GB or media thinks.

San Antonio is clearly tanking with these ridiculous lineups they are throwing out. OKC and Orlando are winning and all three guys have vastly different skillsets. Just be happy with Paolo and that he loves his teammates currently. Oh yeah, and that we didn't draft Jabari.

[eyriq]

What I can say is that it is clear the Magic actually drafted BPA with its pick. That's all we can ask of in managment.

I don't think this is clear at all.

I liked Banchero more than a lot of people did in the pre-draft process two years ago, but there's literally another guy from that draft class who was absolutely in the mix to be taken 1st overall averaging 18.1 PPG, 8.0 RPG, 2.5 APG, 0.9 SPG, 2.3 BPG on a .564/.438/.881 slash with A+ defense.

It isn't a knock on Paolo to say Chet is a better/more impactful basketball player. Paolo's very good and I'm happy to be cheering for him, but Chet is absolutely incredible and already unquestionably a top 20 NBA player with a real chance to be top 10.

I'd rather have Wembanyama than Paolo too, and that's speaking as someone who is extremely pleased with Paolo's development.

Eh, you also are on record saying Franz is better than Paolo. You have a blind spot when comparing 1st options to 2nd or 3rd options.

[swarlesbarkley]

I need to be clear. Because even though I like Paulo a lot and I think he is the guy we need to develop into our no1 option I am not afraid to say.

- He needs to continue to work on his offensive production.
- Wemby has a higher ceiling then him
- I do not know if Chet is overall the better player. Or will be the better player when the dust settles.
- I am very content, even happy with what I see from Paulo. Happy with how he is tracking. Happy that he had an amazing rookie compaign.

I have reached an age, maturity, or maybe lack thereof wisdom to say when a better player is projected to be better then (insert whomever we have.)

At the same time, I am having plenty of fun watching Paulo, Franz, Cole, Suggs, and now Black develop. We could if Suggs / Black develop and Isaac remains healthy be a scary team for the next 10 years. So scary. I am not sure how we afford to keep them all.

Fair points.

It seems like folks have quickly forgotten all the "first time a rookie has done this since LeBron" stats we kept seeing with Paolo last year. I guess Paolo's just not as flashy because he isn't a full unicorn like Wemby or Chet, though I think he's half unicorn at his size and skill level.

When I watch Wemby he does a few things each game that are simply ridiculous and it's hard for my brain to even fathom that a guy his size is doing those things but I also see a guy who's going to need to rely on teammates to be consistently productive. I prefer the guy who can do it on his own but chooses to get others involved, not the other way around.

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What I can say is that it is clear the Magic actually drafted BPA with its pick. That's all we can ask of in managment.

I don't think this is clear at all.

I liked Banchero more than a lot of people did in the pre-draft process two years ago, but there's literally another guy from that draft class who was absolutely in the mix to be taken 1st overall averaging 18.1 PPG, 8.0 RPG, 2.5 APG, 0.9 SPG, 2.3 BPG on a .564/.438/.881 slash with A+ defense.

It isn't a knock on Paolo to say Chet is a better/more impactful basketball player. Paolo's very good and I'm happy to be cheering for him, but Chet is absolutely incredible and already unquestionably a top 20 NBA player with a real chance to be top 10.

I'd rather have Wembanyama than Paolo too, and that's speaking as someone who is extremely pleased with Paolo's development.

Eh, you also are on record saying Franz is better than Paolo. You have a blind spot when comparing 1st options to 2nd or 3rd options.

To be fair, this assessment hasn't been settled yet in their development. Nobody has a definitive answer yet and wont for a few years.

[GelbeWand09]

What I can say is that it is clear the Magic actually drafted BPA with its pick. That's all we can ask of in managment.

I don't think this is clear at all.

I liked Banchero more than a lot of people did in the pre-draft process two years ago, but there's literally another guy from that draft class who was absolutely in the mix to be taken 1st overall averaging 18.1 PPG, 8.0 RPG, 2.5 APG, 0.9 SPG, 2.3 BPG on a .564/.438/.881 slash with A+ defense.

It isn't a knock on Paolo to say Chet is a better/more impactful basketball player. Paolo's very good and I'm happy to be cheering for him, but Chet is absolutely incredible and already unquestionably a top 20 NBA player with a real chance to be top 10.

I'd rather have Wembanyama than Paolo too, and that's speaking as someone who is extremely pleased with Paolo's development.

Eh, you also are on record saying Franz is better than Paolo. You have a blind spot when comparing 1st options to 2nd or 3rd options.

He probably said it before this season & Franz was clearly the better and more impactful player than Paolo (Paolo's impact stats were all negative like for most Rookie). This season Paolo made a big jump in efficiency & Franz got a worldcup hangover & isnt hitting 3's & not one of the best drive finishers in the game like last year.

[KillMonger]

i'm simply amazed that chet and wemby can do some of the things they can do, i feel the same about P5 just in a different way.....who knows how things will turn out but looking at the history of the league, unfortunately players that tall aren't long for the nba and i really hope it's not the case because it's better for the league....it sucks because i still wonder what yao could've done with a full healthy career

[tooler]

i'm simply amazed that chet and wemby can do some of the things they can do, i feel the same about P5 just in a different way.....who knows how things will turn out but looking at the history of the league, unfortunately players that tall aren't long for the nba and i really hope it's not the case because it's better for the league....it sucks because i still wonder what yao could've done with a full healthy career

If you think of JI as the discount store brand of Wemby and Chet, then I think we’ve already seen quite a bit of that body type. I’d love to build a team around a front court of Franz, JI, and Chet, but I’d be holding my breath every game, and they’d STILL need a #1 option at guard (and big enough not to wilt in the playoffs).

[The-Stallion70]

Most of you are missing the point in my post. My statement was that based on present day evidence we have for both players that their actual NBA production for both and for their teams, there is not a whole lot of evidence that suggests one player is better than the other.

If you're asking me about my opinion of who will end up as the better player, then yes I think Wemby will. However to that end I will also say that no one knows how these guys' careers will end up and so why don't we think outside the box a bit and form our own opinions about this rather than simply taking what the media is telling us.

Steph Curry, possibly the GOAT pg was a three star recruit.

Regarding Chet, to me it's no question I'd rather have Banchero. Chet is talented but he is very injury prone, already missed an entire season and he's not leading his own team like Banchero. Paolo is the numerous uno on our squad and I don't believe that we're totally comparing apples to apples with Chet.

Oftentimes when trying to figure out who will have the better NBA career, the question isn't who is more talented, it's who will stay healthy.

[VFX]

Most of you are missing the point in my post. My statement was that based on present day evidence we have for both players that their actual NBA production for both and for their teams, there is not a whole lot of evidence that suggests one player is better than the other.

If you're asking me about my opinion of who will end up as the better player, then yes I think Wemby will. However to that end I will also say that no one knows how these guys' careers will end up and so why don't we think outside the box a bit and form our own opinions about this rather than simply taking what the media is telling us.

Steph Curry, possibly the GOAT pg was a three star recruit.

Regarding Chet, to me it's no question I'd rather have Banchero. Chet is talented but he is very injury prone, already missed an entire season and he's not leading his own team like Banchero. Paolo is the numerous uno on our squad and I don't believe that we're totally comparing apples to apples with Chet.

Oftentimes when trying to figure out who will have the better NBA career, the question isn't who is more talented, it's who will stay healthy.

Fans always fail to factor in situation and team construction.

Chet and Paolo are in great systems for their skillsets respectively. Both teams made the correct picks IMO.

We don't know about Wemby yet in these terms other than the fact that he's with Popovich and in an organization that has a track record with dominate bigs. It really comes down to how the Spurs build their roster moving forward.

Present day evidence? Yeah, ROY season 2 Paolo looks better than Wemby with less than 20 games under his belt and with a worse roster. The "hoopla" over Wembanyanma is legitimate. Paolo wasn't equally hyped because the NBA has seen similar players historically and can fit him into a box for comparison.