2023-24 NY Knicks trade ideas

[sol537]

NYK Trades: Julius Randle
NOH Trades: Gordon Hayward, Late Protected 1st

Then in the off-season we maneuver to have enough cap to make OG a free agent deal starting at $28m per and then we re-up IQ and make him a starter.

Mitch / OG / RJ / IQ / Brunson.... that's a squad I can root for. Hard hat NY type team.

Although I do like Gordon his price tag should be lot lower than that. I'll talking like Fournier and some 2nd rounders.

It's purely a salary/Randle dump in the hopes that we could clear cap for a free agency play for OG this off-season (since TOR isn't trading him to us any time soon). I'd rather OG than Jerami Grant at the same or comparable salary TBH.

[RHODEY]

NYK Trades: Julius Randle
NOH Trades: Gordon Hayward, Late Protected 1st

Then in the off-season we maneuver to have enough cap to make OG a free agent deal starting at $28m per and then we re-up IQ and make him a starter.

Mitch / OG / RJ / IQ / Brunson.... that's a squad I can root for. Hard hat NY type team.

Although I do like Gordon his price tag should be lot lower than that. I'll talking like Fournier and some 2nd rounders.

It's purely a salary/Randle dump in the hopes that we could clear cap for a free agency play for OG this off-season (since TOR isn't trading him to us any time soon). I'd rather OG than Jerami Grant at the same or comparable salary TBH.

But you are replacing a team engine (albeit flawed) with a role player (albeit elite). Addition by subtraction can only go so far imo.

[sol537]

Although I do like Gordon his price tag should be lot lower than that. I'll talking like Fournier and some 2nd rounders.

It's purely a salary/Randle dump in the hopes that we could clear cap for a free agency play for OG this off-season (since TOR isn't trading him to us any time soon). I'd rather OG than Jerami Grant at the same or comparable salary TBH.

But you are replacing a team engine (albeit flawed) with a role player (albeit elite). Addition by subtraction can only go so far imo.

OG in place of Randle could be the move before the “final” move. It would also open things up for everyone else to grow… similar to what we’re seeing in Philly once they dumped Harden. IMO of course. Randle is a net negative.

[RHODEY]

It's purely a salary/Randle dump in the hopes that we could clear cap for a free agency play for OG this off-season (since TOR isn't trading him to us any time soon). I'd rather OG than Jerami Grant at the same or comparable salary TBH.

But you are replacing a team engine (albeit flawed) with a role player (albeit elite). Addition by subtraction can only go so far imo.

OG in place of Randle could be the move before the “final” move. It would also open things up for everyone else to grow… similar to what we’re seeing in Philly once they dumped Harden. IMO of course. Randle is a net negative.

I get that but logically speaking you want to reserve most of your assets for the biggest move. Why? because they'll be needed to make that big move .

I think someone like OG would cost enough were it would hurt our asset base. This is assuming an OG trade is realistic, a false assumption IMO.

It makes sense to go after the big fish first - before the medium fish. The small fish (Gordon Hayward , Gallonari) are ok because they come cheap. Im on the fence on Bogdonovic, I think he might be too costly , or he might not.

[Knick4Real]

But you are replacing a team engine (albeit flawed) with a role player (albeit elite). Addition by subtraction can only go so far imo.

OG in place of Randle could be the move before the “final” move. It would also open things up for everyone else to grow… similar to what we’re seeing in Philly once they dumped Harden. IMO of course. Randle is a net negative.

I get that but logically speaking you want to reserve most of your assets for the biggest move. Why> Becuase they'll be need to make that big move .

I think someone like OG would cost enough were it would hurt our asset base. This is assuming an OG trade is realistic, a false assumption IMO.

It makes sense to go after the big fish first - before the medium fish. The small fish (Gordon Hayward , Gallonari) are ok because they come cheap. Im on the fence on Bogdonovic, I think he might be too costly , or he might not.

THIS!

You don't spend a portion of your assets before you know what the big cat will cost.

Also, because we're currently suing them, there's ZERO chance the Raptors will deal with us. Forget about OG.

[HarthorneWingo]

There's no trading with Toronto now.

[KnixinSix]

OG in place of Randle could be the move before the “final” move. It would also open things up for everyone else to grow… similar to what we’re seeing in Philly once they dumped Harden. IMO of course. Randle is a net negative.

I get that but logically speaking you want to reserve most of your assets for the biggest move. Why> Becuase they'll be need to make that big move .

I think someone like OG would cost enough were it would hurt our asset base. This is assuming an OG trade is realistic, a false assumption IMO.

It makes sense to go after the big fish first - before the medium fish. The small fish (Gordon Hayward , Gallonari) are ok because they come cheap. Im on the fence on Bogdonovic, I think he might be too costly , or he might not.

THIS!

You don't spend a portion of your assets before you know what the big cat will cost.

Also, because we're currently suing them, there's ZERO chance the Raptors will deal with us. Forget about OG.

Patrick Williams is basically a poor man's OG. He would be a great replacement for Randle.

Randle, Grimes and Fournier for LaVine and Pat Williams .

Pat Williams can hit the 3 and plays excellent defense so would be a big upgrade defensively to Randle there. IQ and DD would provide strong complementary defense at the guard position to Brunson and LaVine.

LaVine is an absolute elite shooter who is in dire need of a better situation. He can play 3 , mostly 2 and a bit of 1. In addition Hes a pretty decent passer and rebounder.

Mitchell,I-Hart
Williams ,Hart
RJ, Hart, LaVine
LaVine, IQ, DD
Brunson, DD

No more Randle iso and with LaVine, RJ, Brunson and IQ you have plenty of scoring options and would not miss Randle's offense.

[RHODEY]

I get that but logically speaking you want to reserve most of your assets for the biggest move. Why> Becuase they'll be need to make that big move .

I think someone like OG would cost enough were it would hurt our asset base. This is assuming an OG trade is realistic, a false assumption IMO.

It makes sense to go after the big fish first - before the medium fish. The small fish (Gordon Hayward , Gallonari) are ok because they come cheap. Im on the fence on Bogdonovic, I think he might be too costly , or he might not.

THIS!

You don't spend a portion of your assets before you know what the big cat will cost.

Also, because we're currently suing them, there's ZERO chance the Raptors will deal with us. Forget about OG.

Patrick Williams is basically a poor man's OG. He would be a great replacement for Randle.

Randle, Grimes and Fournier for LaVine and Pat Williams .

Pat Williams can hit the 3 and plays excellent defense so would be a big upgrade defensively to Randle there. IQ and DD would provide strong complementary defense at the guard position to Brunson and LaVine.

LaVine is an absolute elite shooter who is in dire need of a better situation. He can play 3 , mostly 2 and a bit of 1. In addition Hes a pretty decent passer and rebounder.

Mitchell,I-Hart
Williams ,Hart
RJ, Hart, LaVine
LaVine, IQ, DD
Brunson, DD

No more Randle iso and with LaVine, RJ, Brunson and IQ you have plenty of scoring options and would not miss Randle's offense.

I think Williams might be a good backup for Randle...but a replacement? Nope. And I wouldn't touch Lavine with a ten foot pole.

[KnixinSix]

THIS!

You don't spend a portion of your assets before you know what the big cat will cost.

Also, because we're currently suing them, there's ZERO chance the Raptors will deal with us. Forget about OG.

Patrick Williams is basically a poor man's OG. He would be a great replacement for Randle.

Randle, Grimes and Fournier for LaVine and Pat Williams .

Pat Williams can hit the 3 and plays excellent defense so would be a big upgrade defensively to Randle there. IQ and DD would provide strong complementary defense at the guard position to Brunson and LaVine.

LaVine is an absolute elite shooter who is in dire need of a better situation. He can play 3 , mostly 2 and a bit of 1. In addition Hes a pretty decent passer and rebounder.

Mitchell,I-Hart
Williams ,Hart
RJ, Hart, LaVine
LaVine, IQ, DD
Brunson, DD

No more Randle iso and with LaVine, RJ, Brunson and IQ you have plenty of scoring options and would not miss Randle's offense.

I think Williams might be a good backup for Randle...but a replacement? Nope. And I wouldn't touch Lavine with a ten foot pole.

I think LaVine is a whole lot better than what that ugly situation in Chicago looks like. He would be our new Allen Houston with better drive to the basket ability. Pair that with Brunson in the backcourt and thats lethal offensively. And both are complemented with mutliple high level defensive options w/ Grimes, DD, McBride and Hart.

I also kinda feel this team has become Brunson's. I also think LaVine and Williams for Grimes and Randle makes us a better fitting team overall for what Thibs wants to do.

[aggo]

randle + filler for Poole and Kuzma

[spree2kawhi]

Too late...he is as washed as it gets really.....

Exactly. You wouldn’t notice an impact on the court with him.

Right now he is shooting his career-worst. Still coming back from injury, so that should tick up a bit. I think he is an effective back-up at this point, but mainly he would be there to be a tall body when Randle gets his 4th offensive foul in the 3rd quarter and we need both spacing and size. He is also a plus passer.

He moves like he doesn’t belong anymore. Have you seen him play?

[KnixinSix]

Exactly. You wouldn’t notice an impact on the court with him.

Right now he is shooting his career-worst. Still coming back from injury, so that should tick up a bit. I think he is an effective back-up at this point, but mainly he would be there to be a tall body when Randle gets his 4th offensive foul in the 3rd quarter and we need both spacing and size. He is also a plus passer.

He moves like he doesn’t belong anymore. Have you seen him play?

That situation in Chicago is ugly. That may have a lot to do with it too or are you referring to Randle and him slowly getting back to what he was before?

[sol537]

Patrick Williams is basically a poor man's OG. He would be a great replacement for Randle.

Randle, Grimes and Fournier for LaVine and Pat Williams .

Pat Williams can hit the 3 and plays excellent defense so would be a big upgrade defensively to Randle there. IQ and DD would provide strong complementary defense at the guard position to Brunson and LaVine.

LaVine is an absolute elite shooter who is in dire need of a better situation. He can play 3 , mostly 2 and a bit of 1. In addition Hes a pretty decent passer and rebounder.

Mitchell,I-Hart
Williams ,Hart
RJ, Hart, LaVine
LaVine, IQ, DD
Brunson, DD

No more Randle iso and with LaVine, RJ, Brunson and IQ you have plenty of scoring options and would not miss Randle's offense.

I think Williams might be a good backup for Randle...but a replacement? Nope. And I wouldn't touch Lavine with a ten foot pole.

I think LaVine is a whole lot better than what that ugly situation in Chicago looks like. He would be our new Allen Houston with better drive to the basket ability. Pair that with Brunson in the backcourt and thats lethal offensively. And both are complemented with mutliple high level defensive options w/ Grimes, DD, McBride and Hart.

I also kinda feel this team has become Brunson's. I also think LaVine and Williams for Grimes and Randle makes us a better fitting team overall for what Thibs wants to do.

Lavine is a career loser with a sickening contract and Pat Will has been a bust so far but I’d still consider the deal because I hate Randle that much. On second thought nah, I’d rather send Randle out for an expiring like Hayward

[spree2kawhi]

Right now he is shooting his career-worst. Still coming back from injury, so that should tick up a bit. I think he is an effective back-up at this point, but mainly he would be there to be a tall body when Randle gets his 4th offensive foul in the 3rd quarter and we need both spacing and size. He is also a plus passer.

He moves like he doesn’t belong anymore. Have you seen him play?

That situation in Chicago is ugly. That may have a lot to do with it too or are you referring to Randle and him slowly getting back to what he was before?

No, I just remember the last time I saw him play he looked like late Dirk Nowitzki.

[Knick4Real]

I get that but logically speaking you want to reserve most of your assets for the biggest move. Why> Becuase they'll be need to make that big move .

I think someone like OG would cost enough were it would hurt our asset base. This is assuming an OG trade is realistic, a false assumption IMO.

It makes sense to go after the big fish first - before the medium fish. The small fish (Gordon Hayward , Gallonari) are ok because they come cheap. Im on the fence on Bogdonovic, I think he might be too costly , or he might not.

THIS!

You don't spend a portion of your assets before you know what the big cat will cost.

Also, because we're currently suing them, there's ZERO chance the Raptors will deal with us. Forget about OG.

Patrick Williams is basically a poor man's OG. He would be a great replacement for Randle.

Randle, Grimes and Fournier for LaVine and Pat Williams .

Pat Williams can hit the 3 and plays excellent defense so would be a big upgrade defensively to Randle there. IQ and DD would provide strong complementary defense at the guard position to Brunson and LaVine.

LaVine is an absolute elite shooter who is in dire need of a better situation. He can play 3 , mostly 2 and a bit of 1. In addition Hes a pretty decent passer and rebounder.

Mitchell,I-Hart
Williams ,Hart
RJ, Hart, LaVine
LaVine, IQ, DD
Brunson, DD

No more Randle iso and with LaVine, RJ, Brunson and IQ you have plenty of scoring options and would not miss Randle's offense.

Patrick Williams would be a serviceable backup, but not a replacement.

As for LaVine, he said publicly he does NOT want to play for the KNICKS. His agent, Rich Paul, added that he would never allow ANY of his clients to play in New York.

So, there you have it.

[sol537]

I'm holding out hope for a Randle + IQ for Zion deal... Zion + RJ + Brunson would be a nice trio to build around...

[dakomish23]

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Way too much Perry in the media as of late

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IDK who this is but Mikal is my target for the semi treasure chest

[nykballa2k4]

He moves like he doesn’t belong anymore. Have you seen him play?

That situation in Chicago is ugly. That may have a lot to do with it too or are you referring to Randle and him slowly getting back to what he was before?

No, I just remember the last time I saw him play he looked like late Dirk Nowitzki.

Welp against a fellow g-league level club he seems to have lit it up a bit:
https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/washington-wizards-detroit-pistons-2023112708/
16 points, 3 3's.

[nyk2017]

I think it is time to trade RJ and Grimes. I would keep Quick and Brunson in the back court and build around them. RJ and Grimes along with some draft assets for a quality SF would be the way to go.

[cgf]

From the trade board:

Knicks out: Evan Fournier, 2 of the lower salary guys (Jeffries, Arcidiacono, Windler), 1st round pick
Knicks in: Harrison Barnes, Davion Mitchell

Kings out: Harrison Barnes, Davion Mitchell, 2026 1st (might need to add Kessler? but I think its fine)
Kings in: Jerami Grant

Portland out: Jerami Grant
Portland in: Evan Fournier, 2 of the low salary guys, 2 1st round picks


Thoughts?