Safe to say, Chet "Hologram" Holgrem > Paolo Banchero

[DrModesty]

I like em both. The two teams are on the upwards trajectory (good signs last year). Deep and young stacked with potential

Had Pistons version of Griffin as Paolo’s comp and he’s already exceeded my expectation.

7.2 FTA av and a 72.3% return. If he keeps his 3ball around 36% that’s one heck of a player.

Personally who cares could do a lot worse as picks go.

Chet is special. KD like with defence is a game changer. He obviously has the higher ceiling but

They have ages to go before their prime.

We take it for granted when kids are so good so early imo.

So you had broken knees Pistons version of Blake Griffin as Paolo's ceiling but he exceeded those lowly expectations you had and we're just gonna let this ride?

That is a damn horrible comparison.

But you saw Chet as KD with "defence"? Because he's skinny and 7ft I'd presume. No handle like KD, no cross and pullup like KD but that's who you saw...

Insert Charlie Murphy laughing gif

Blake Griffin made ALL NBA 3rd team averaging 24.5/7.5/5.5 the 1 year he was there before injuries functionally ended his career.

[Vampirate]

This debate basically boils down to:

Paolo is stronger and more athletic.

Chet is taller and the better shooter.

Current Paolo is producing at the same efficiency as SGA did in his 2nd season as a #1 option.

We straight up don't know what Chet will produce as a #1 option, however he's currently pretty much blowing past a lot of other #2 options as a #2.

[DrModesty]

Some of this is silly they are both very good players this year. But I did want to correct one of the silly misconceptions here that Chet can't get his own bucket.

Read on Twitter

you post just about nearly any NBA player crestig a shor and getting a bucket.

Now pls post vids of Chet in the same game of him doing what you just posted as your evidence of him doing this throughout the entire course of a game. Not just here and there instances lol.

Chet is nice Paolo is a #1. And I'll say it again, I wanted us to get Chet until I saw Paolo and how he is already NBA physical and big which for some reason he didn't look that physically big to me at Duke.

Both guys are where they need to be as is Jabari Smith Jr.

OKC doesn't need Chet to do this, so don't have him in this role. They have an entire roster of ball handlers. Maybe in the future he will be asked to do this more, after all he is less than 20 games in to his career. The video shows he can do it, that it happens in most games, that he managed to do it against bigs, wings and guards and that it isn't a one off fluke.

[MoneyTalks41890]

Let’s not forgot Chet is also going to be in the DPOY conversation this year. There are two sides to the ball. Again I think they’re both great players but some of this diminishing is tiresome.

[MrBigShot]

I like em both. The two teams are on the upwards trajectory (good signs last year). Deep and young stacked with potential

Had Pistons version of Griffin as Paolo’s comp and he’s already exceeded my expectation.

7.2 FTA av and a 72.3% return. If he keeps his 3ball around 36% that’s one heck of a player.

Personally who cares could do a lot worse as picks go.

Chet is special. KD like with defence is a game changer. He obviously has the higher ceiling but

They have ages to go before their prime.

We take it for granted when kids are so good so early imo.

So you had broken knees Pistons version of Blake Griffin as Paolo's ceiling but he exceeded those lowly expectations you had and we're just gonna let this ride?

That is a damn horrible comparison.

But you saw Chet as KD with "defence"? Because he's skinny and 7ft I'd presume. No handle like KD, no cross and pullup like KD but that's who you saw...

Insert Charlie Murphy laughing gif

Blake Griffin made ALL NBA 3rd team averaging 24.5/7.5/5.5 the 1 year he was there before injuries functionally ended his career.

Yes, I know people didn't watch him much and at the end of his tenure here he purposely played like he was a cripple basically, but prior to that last injury Blake was a flat out all NBA level player. By far the most skilled he's ever been, he was regularly taking and making threes off the dribble.

[Duke4life831]

I think its pretty simple. Paolo has the more diverse offensive skill set. He has legit potential (not there yet but can get there) to be a star #1 option. I dont think Chet has that. But I also think Chet on offense is more than just a catch and shoot guy on offense. But this is also perfectly fine and perfect roster construction because no doubt the long term plan for OKC is to have the SGA and Chet pairing.

Defensively Chet is a stud, is going to be in DPOY convos for a decade. Paolo doesnt have that kind of potential on that end. But with that said, Paolo isnt the permanent turnstile defender people thought he would be. Year 2 and he is already a plus defender. Watch any Magic game or talk to any Magic fan and they will all say the same, his improvement defensively is extremely noticeable.

Again its very possible that both teams got elite prospects with different skill sets that both fit their roster.

[Pelly24]

Give me CHET honestly. Watched him since high school, he's just special. People overlooked him a bit once Wemby came along and Chet got injured last summer. But Chet can be a 25/8/7 on 70 TS% with elite defense kind of guy at his peak, and he's got a really good feel for the game.

[thelead]

We doing this all year? Why do we have to hate on someone to like another? They both amazing talents. They hung out after the draft, played ball together, seemed to be tight. Why are fans doing this 'this guy is better because that guy doesn't do XYZ'? It's just silly.

Paolo has the ability to become an MVP one day if he keeps working hard. And so does Chet.

As a magic fan, I'd take either on my squad and not lose any sleep over it.

[JShuttlesworth]

I'm a big fan of what Chet is doing, and it usually takes me a couple (sometimes a few) years to come around on the young fellas. He's a very confident young man, but he has been backing it up so far this year.

He impacts the game at both ends, and he has been shooting the lights out. It's hard to ask for anything more

I'm excited to watch his career

[tooler]

I'm curious why you think Chet can't be a #1 option.

I’m not telling you what I think. I’m telling you what RealGM would think when evaluating the Magic roster with Chet as their pick. That’s why there’s no way to bring these conversations to a consensus. The goalposts would be flipped by literally the same people.

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

We doing this all year? Why do we have to hate on someone to like another? They both amazing talents. They hung out after the draft, played ball together, seemed to be tight. Why are fans doing this 'this guy is better because that guy doesn't do XYZ'? It's just silly.

Paolo has the ability to become an MVP one day if he keeps working hard. And so does Chet.

As a magic fan, I'd take either on my squad and not lose any sleep over it.

I don’t think there’s anything distasteful about comparing two players that went top 3 in the same draft. You can argue that one or the other is better without ‘hating.’

[ogmagicfan]

Magic got the right player for their team, the 1st option they wanted

The Thunder got the right player for their team, a complimentary player to Shai

Comparing efficiencies is moot when Paolo is drawing doubles & even triples regularly and Chet gets to enjoy single coverage or just being left open at the perimeter due Shai.

Both will be stars, but I'd pick Paolo 10 times outta 10.

[davey_wavy]

Can't compare "Single Coverage" Chet to tripled teamed Paolo

[DCasey91]

So you had broken knees Pistons version of Blake Griffin as Paolo's ceiling but he exceeded those lowly expectations you had and we're just gonna let this ride?

That is a damn horrible comparison.

But you saw Chet as KD with "defence"? Because he's skinny and 7ft I'd presume. No handle like KD, no cross and pullup like KD but that's who you saw...

Insert Charlie Murphy laughing gif

Blake Griffin made ALL NBA 3rd team averaging 24.5/7.5/5.5 the 1 year he was there before injuries functionally ended his career.

Yes, I know people didn't watch him much and at the end of his tenure here he purposely played like he was a cripple basically, but prior to that last injury Blake was a flat out all NBA level player. By far the most skilled he's ever been, he was regularly taking and making threes off the dribble.

I think the poster was trolling. That was the complete version of Griffin. If Paolo eventually reaches that he’s one heck of a player.

And for Chet he definitely has a handle and is shooting the cover off the ball

[WuTang_CMB]

Chet is a beast. Happy for him after tough injury

[DCasey91]

I think its pretty simple. Paolo has the more diverse offensive skill set. He has legit potential (not there yet but can get there) to be a star #1 option. I dont think Chet has that. But I also think Chet on offense is more than just a catch and shoot guy on offense. But this is also perfectly fine and perfect roster construction because no doubt the long term plan for OKC is to have the SGA and Chet pairing.

Defensively Chet is a stud, is going to be in DPOY convos for a decade. Paolo doesnt have that kind of potential on that end. But with that said, Paolo isnt the permanent turnstile defender people thought he would be. Year 2 and he is already a plus defender. Watch any Magic game or talk to any Magic fan and they will all say the same, his improvement defensively is extremely noticeable.

Again its very possible that both teams got elite prospects with different skill sets that both fit their roster.

I disagree with Chet on the potential to be a number one option.

His handle is legit. OKC have Shai but make no mistake Chet is more accustom and clinical than Wemby.

Did you watch the video above? That dribble package then fake turnaround then going the other way at around the 40 sec mark is straight out superstar levels good. A lot of his stuff is carbon copy KD.

Anyway both are great kids, I have no doubt that whatever high potential/ceiling they have they’ll reach it (Health/injuries touch wood).

Paolo slimmed down (even before entering mind you), worked on his jumper and now year 2 as you said his defence is chalk and cheese.

[thelead]

We doing this all year? Why do we have to hate on someone to like another? They both amazing talents. They hung out after the draft, played ball together, seemed to be tight. Why are fans doing this 'this guy is better because that guy doesn't do XYZ'? It's just silly.

Paolo has the ability to become an MVP one day if he keeps working hard. And so does Chet.

As a magic fan, I'd take either on my squad and not lose any sleep over it.

I don’t think there’s anything distasteful about comparing two players that went top 3 in the same draft. You can argue that one or the other is better without ‘hating.’

Oh, I agree... it's just not what is mainly happening in this thread. I see a lot of 'he can't do this so the other guy is better'... which is nuts considering Paolo just turned 21 while leading a top team and Chet is playing in his first handful of games and also helping lead a top team.

[The Master]

I disagree with Chet on the potential to be a number one option. His handle is legit. OKC have Shai but make no mistake Chet is more accustom and clinical than Wemby. Did you watch the video above? That dribble package then fake turnaround then going the other way at around the 40 sec mark is straight out superstar levels good. A lot of his stuff is carbon copy KD. Anyway both are great kids, I have no doubt that whatever high potential/ceiling they have they’ll reach it (Health/injuries touch wood).Paolo slimmed down (even before entering mind you), worked on his jumper and now year 2 as you said his defence is chalk and cheese.

Yeah.

Holmgren is highly efficient 18-3 type of a big man offensively at the beginning of his pro career, his upside is: highly efficient volume scorer-decent passer offensively -- DPOTY defender defensively -- perfect fit for every team. Whether it's a 1st option offensively or not more depends on type of a team he will play for (Thunder will be stacked enormously with all the picks that they have). Yeah, I can easily see Holmgren being a 25ppg scorer on some decent team, is that 1st option quality or not? Actually, his offensive upside more depends on how much he will develop his playmaking rather than his scoring (he's already a 29 pts/100 possessions on +12 rTS type of a scorer, Banchero has 28 pts/100 possessions on -0.7 rTS).

Not to mention I'm pretty sure this year in the latter part of the season we will see Chet getting more shots and being a legit 20ppg scorer-DPOTY candidate. You just want your 18ppg highly efficient player to find more comfortable spots to shot a ball, in some last couple of games he has already had games with over 20 shots (and he was great in that role).

And this is a no disrespect to Banchero, he'll be great (and hopefully Magic too), it's just you don't get DPOTY level 50-40-90 type of an athletic 7-footer on regular basis. And it doesn't mean choosing Banchero was bad as well, he'll prove himself in a role that Magic needs to fill in. Holmgren is better right now/has higher upside, and besides eventual health issues variable it's kind of obvious.

[HMFFL]

Chet can be a top 20 player in the league even if he is scoring 15 ppg. Ridiculous to pass up on him with that potential as a rim protector and floor spacer at the 5.

Let's just hope Chet always has the desire to be a rim protector.

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[Ayt]

Chet can be a top 20 player in the league even if he is scoring 15 ppg. Ridiculous to pass up on him with that potential as a rim protector and floor spacer at the 5.

Let's just hope Chet always has the desire to be a rim protector.

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He seems to love that aspect of the game.