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Re: PG Heat - Win 

Post#141 » by Jez2983 » Wed Nov 29, 2023 5:36 am

Remember when Middleton was permanently broken like 2 games ago?

Our Brook/Dame/Giannis + others units should be looking good now.

Those + Mids and ? will look absolutely filthy.

In my mind we have an issue with scoring creation off the bench. When Bobby isn't working, like tonight, we need another option. I don't know if that's Beasley, but we need something.

It's weird seeing this offensive juggernaut closing team we have now.
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Re: PG Heat - Win 

Post#142 » by Jez2983 » Wed Nov 29, 2023 5:38 am

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Re: PG Heat - Win 

Post#143 » by mattg » Wed Nov 29, 2023 5:43 am

Marjon is the dude you try and trade up now in a package for a higher impact player before he proves to be just a guy. He's a spaz defensively and nothing special. He's just pretty athletic and everyone here is so used to the least athletic wing rotation in the NBA BY FAR over the past 5+ seasons that they cream themselves over the potential of Marjon. IQ/Instincts on defense are totally meh. He gets completely pushed around too, bad sense of leverage so he gets absolutely dominated when guys post him up. Offensively he's shooting the ball solidly right now but his shooting form fundamentals aren't great so IMO if you can move him in a package for a better player you have to do it. Not sure that deal is out there but who knows. I'd also be trying to deal Bobby to GSW (they want to contend and need a big, and have other pieces to deal elsewhere) or someone in a 3 way to address our wing issues.
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Re: PG Heat - Win 

Post#144 » by soboMP3 » Wed Nov 29, 2023 5:45 am

We need to be lethal in the 4th quarter and middle to top 10 defense in the league. We’re stone cold killers in the fourth and I feel like we can handle the defensive side with time.
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Re: PG Heat - Win 

Post#145 » by mediocrityrules » Wed Nov 29, 2023 6:38 am

Jez2983 wrote:Remember when Middleton was permanently broken like 2 games ago?

Our Brook/Dame/Giannis + others units should be looking good now.

Those + Mids and ? will look absolutely filthy.

In my mind we have an issue with scoring creation off the bench. When Bobby isn't working, like tonight, we need another option. I don't know if that's Beasley, but we need something.

It's weird seeing this offensive juggernaut closing team we have now.


With rotations, we now have this 4-5 minute period in the 2nd when neither Giannis or Dame is on the floor. With our bench stinking it up lately this period has looked shaky, but could get more problematic. If Midds gets back to full minutes that will help, and hopefully you won't then have a single minute where we don't have at least one of these three guys in the game to drive the offense, (without anyone having to pull more than 35 minutes).
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Post#146 » by rilamann » Wed Nov 29, 2023 6:48 am

It feels like it's almost becoming a thing where if you're playing the Milwaukee Buck and you have the lead going into the 4th quarter, you're in some serious trouble...lol.
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Post#147 » by AussieBuck » Wed Nov 29, 2023 7:09 am

It remains **** amazing that the standard play is for us to entirely punt on perimeter D.
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Post#148 » by old skool » Wed Nov 29, 2023 7:20 am

The Bucks outscored the Heat 27-18 over the final 7:54 of the game, making 8 of 12 shots and 9 of 9 FTs.

Antetokounmpo 6 pts. (1 of 2 FGAs; 4 of 4 FTs)
Lillard 13 pts. (3 of 5 FGAs; 5 of 5 FTs)
Middleton 6 pts. (3 of 3 FGAs)
Lopez 2 pts. (1 of 2 FGAs)

The end of game offense was incredibly efficient. And very disciplined, as no other player attempted a shot. Obvious rotations and shot distribution for a top-heavy roster.
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Post#149 » by FrieAaron » Wed Nov 29, 2023 7:22 am

Our team is clutch as hell. It would be nice to not have a terrible defense by the end of the season.
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Post#150 » by aboveAverage » Wed Nov 29, 2023 7:26 am

We’re one trade deadline deal for a Caruso type player away from being really good.

Offense down the stretch looks fantastic this season. Giannis hit two key free throws as well. Just have to figure out how to not suck so much on defense.
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Post#151 » by Sigra » Wed Nov 29, 2023 7:38 am

IST looks good. Not just because we win in it. Really good idea IMO. I also like play-in.

But what I really hate about modern NBA:
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Post#152 » by FrieAaron » Wed Nov 29, 2023 7:39 am

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I'll settle for top 15 on defense. Top 10 seems like a dream at this point.
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Post#153 » by TroyD92 » Wed Nov 29, 2023 7:40 am

skones wrote:Wonder if there's something to the death stare Dame gave Middleton in demanding that ball before the foul/tech. Griffin said Dame had hit a couple of threes and was trying to go back to him because Giannis said, "Got to go to Khris."

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Post#154 » by TroyD92 » Wed Nov 29, 2023 7:41 am

Rough night for Marjon (me) and AJ Green Stans. Free Dre tho
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Post#155 » by Sigra » Wed Nov 29, 2023 7:57 am

mediocrityrules wrote:we now have this 4-5 minute period in the 2nd when neither Giannis or Dame is on the floor.


Yeah. That is biggest mistake coach Grief is making. That should never happen. At least one of them must be in.
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Post#156 » by old skool » Wed Nov 29, 2023 8:12 am

In "clutch" situations (last 5 minutes of a game when the score is within 5 points):

The 13-5 Bucks are 8-2 in "clutch" games, 5-3 in the other games.

Lillard leads the NBA in total points with 65 (in 37.5 minutes). 15/29 FGA; 28/29 FTA.
Giannis is 22nd with 23 points (in 36.4 minutes). 8/18 FGA; 6/10 FTA.
Lopez is 56th with 16 points (in 37.9 minutes). 4/6 FGA; 6/7 FTA.
Middleton is 72nd with 13 points (in 18.1 minutes). 5/10 FGA; 2/2 FTA.

In "clutch" minutes, Lillard is averaging 62 points per 36.
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Re: PG Heat - Win 

Post#157 » by chonestown » Wed Nov 29, 2023 8:19 am

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and obviously hes been a total flamethrower on offense. im talking specifically about his defense in this stupid scheme fwiw


yeah.. i really dont know what to say if you think Beasley should play significant minutes on a team with title aspirations. i'm just going to silently hope that Horst understands where his priorities should be and leave it at that.



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Re: PG Heat - Win 

Post#158 » by greekbuck34 » Wed Nov 29, 2023 8:53 am

Basically right now unless we are down by +20 points going into the 4th quarter we get spoiled the ending result.

Our offense has never even been close to this level in the past.
Miami's defense has only 1 goal and that's to make sure Giannis is not feasting under the paint and they couldn't do anything about Dame and Khris at the same time. The moment they helped Giannis would score, the times they stayed on Giannis, Dame and Khris had open practice jumpshots or broke the defense completely to create for other players.

Love that Khris actually played and looked his best!

Malik has been insane this season! He is still shocked he is disrespected so much even when he gets hot. He's feasting at a insane rate through the gravity of Giannis and Dame. When your offense is that good screw the defense. Miami is getting advantage of players like that for years.

MarJon and AJJ need more confidence.

Brook and Bobby at the dunker spot with Dame/Giannis PNR or the opposite is a cheatcode right now.
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Post#159 » by drone3 » Wed Nov 29, 2023 8:55 am

Spoelstra would turn guys like Marjon and Green into weapons. They have the tools this is completely on our coaching staff
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Post#160 » by tedbrogen » Wed Nov 29, 2023 8:57 am

Won’t need clutch time heroics when they finally free Dre for 20+ minutes of chaos per game.

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