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Re: Inaugural In Season Tournament 2023-24 

Post#241 » by RookieStar » Wed Nov 29, 2023 6:13 am

DiplomaticMagic wrote:I thought the tournament was fun and it sucks we're not playing.

For some reason, a lot of Magic fans hate the Raptors. I never understood why, I think it has to do with fans wars and the 2021 draft? I dont interact with other teams fans much so I never had ill will for the Raptors except when Kyle Lowry was on their team and he purposely hurt Aaron Gordon twice. But now I hate them lol. They suck.

Also I dont see how anybody could want those losers on the Bulls. Vucevic is the same loser he was here, I wouldn't take him back for the minimum. Moe Wagner is better than him now. And Lavine is so overpaid and also a loser. I dont need him moping around chucking shots here and giving up firsts.

Coming in today, I thought we had a good chance of advancing and so did Vegas. I underestimated the suckiness of the Raptors and Bulls. I thought Raptors were favorites to win vs Nets or at least be a close game in case Nets do win. And than all we needed was for the Bulls to not lose by 23 or more. Cant even do that? Lol pathetic


I and a few others still believed we couldve advanced farther if That bum lowry didnt injure AG purposely.

About the 21 draft. Its still funny they try to justify TO US why Barnes should be better than Suggs. Lol as we had any choice on who to pick. Bottom line is... Franz is the best player in that draft so who cares.
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Re: Inaugural In Season Tournament 2023-24 

Post#242 » by DiplomaticMagic » Wed Nov 29, 2023 6:19 am

Candace Parker suggested that point differential shouldn't be a tiebreaker, it should be standings.
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Post#243 » by JT3000 » Wed Nov 29, 2023 6:27 am

DiplomaticMagic wrote:Candace Parker suggested that point differential shouldn't be a tiebreaker, it should be standings.


That would at least make more sense than last year's recored being one of the tiebreakers, which is downright absurd, even if they're unlikely to use it. I still think it's too early in the season for current record to be a decider of anything though. Not sure why they don't hold the tournament later.

And for those of you hoping we get some easy wins out of not advancing, watch Philly be one of our opponents. :lol:
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Re: Inaugural In Season Tournament 2023-24 

Post#244 » by DiplomaticMagic » Wed Nov 29, 2023 6:33 am

So I just found out that we are playing 2 games vs teams who arent in tournament and they count for regular season. What???

So when the schedule was released, it didnt have all 82 games??
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Re: Inaugural In Season Tournament 2023-24 

Post#245 » by SOUL » Wed Nov 29, 2023 6:40 am

DiplomaticMagic wrote:So I just found out that we are playing 2 games vs teams who arent in tournament and they count for regular season. What???

So when the schedule was released, it didnt have all 82 games??


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Re: Inaugural In Season Tournament 2023-24 

Post#246 » by drsd » Wed Nov 29, 2023 8:37 am

Message Boar wrote:So what I'm taking from the above post is that we're rooting for Boston to win, actually?


Chicago is an embarrassment. To lose by 27. That is a tanking level of poor play.
Charlotte totally giving up in the 4th was embarrassing, but what the Bulls allowed was worse.

I am fine with the Celts winning, as it was Orlando's poor 4th quarter play against the Nets that led to this outcome. Orland will learn from the successes here.


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Now for the good news, games 81 and 82 will be against lower quality teams than if the Magic had made it in. Instead of the Pacers and then either the Bucks or Knicks, the Magic get, well, not any of the four Eastern IST teams.

That is: not making the IST increases the odds of Orlando making the "real" tournament, the playoffs.
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Re: Inaugural In Season Tournament 2023-24 

Post#247 » by drsd » Wed Nov 29, 2023 8:43 am

Knightro wrote:The Magic were also up 15 on the Bulls midway through the 4th quarter and only ended up winning that game by 6.

That -9 over the last few minutes of that quarter also cost them beyond the Nets 4th quarter.


To be fair, that was a road game; any win on the road is a good win. At home, the Magic did indeed run up the score. Actively.
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Re: Inaugural In Season Tournament 2023-24 

Post#248 » by SOUL » Wed Nov 29, 2023 8:51 am

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Post#249 » by dsg2021 » Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:17 am

Four teams went 3-1 in the Group Stage and didn't get into the IST. Which leads to wondering why is it a 3-round tournament for 8 teams instead of opening up to 10 or 12 teams out of 30. Divisions don't mean anything.
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Post#250 » by jezzerinho » Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:31 am

If its going to be decided on points differential after head to head (which i agree with as it forces both teams to play hard to the end of games), then the final round games have to be played concurrently. Thats a basic tenet in any sport with pools where point +/- applies.
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Post#251 » by J-Mezzy » Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:49 am

No hate on the Cs as they are having an incredible season

But as a Magic fan, it feels wrong to be eliminated from the tournament. We have the same record and beat them head to head

But then both the Cs and the Knicks beat us in point differential… not only is that a silly tie breaker to use over head to head, but if you are going to use that, the games all have to be played simultaneously. Both the Cs and Knicks knew ahead of time what they needed to score to move on so they kept their starters in their blow out wins. The magic won their games organically while the Cs and Knicks had a target to hit in order to advance.

Not the Cs or Knicks fault and I wish them luck. Just feels that this was a poor way to set up things imo
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Re: Inaugural In Season Tournament 2023-24 

Post#252 » by GelbeWand09 » Wed Nov 29, 2023 9:52 am

They should play all final group matches on the same day & time. Its a big advantage to know how many points you need, when you play later.
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Re: Inaugural In Season Tournament 2023-24 

Post#253 » by RichCollab » Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:07 pm

Our record is 4 -1 vs the teams that advanced to the quarterfinals.
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Re: Inaugural In Season Tournament 2023-24 

Post#254 » by RichCollab » Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:28 pm

It’s another chip on our shoulder to motivate us to continue to work.
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Re: Inaugural In Season Tournament 2023-24 

Post#255 » by SOUL » Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:36 pm

Guys please don't go to other forums to tell other fanbases how their players suck.. that's a quick way to get board banned lol. Between that and the insane homerism I'm seeing from Magic fans in other boards, damn, I forgot how frustrating some of us get when we have actual skin in the game :lol:
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Re: Inaugural In Season Tournament 2023-24 

Post#256 » by SOUL » Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:40 pm

Team does get a bit of rest though even though we have 2 games in that span, I think we have 3 games in a 12 day span there.
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Post#257 » by eyriq » Wed Nov 29, 2023 12:55 pm

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Re: Inaugural In Season Tournament 2023-24 

Post#258 » by orlando_joe » Wed Nov 29, 2023 1:02 pm

magic played and beat 3 of the 4 in east to advance its cool that is the rules that nets game 2nd half cost them added motivation
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Re: Inaugural In Season Tournament 2023-24 

Post#259 » by tooler » Wed Nov 29, 2023 1:18 pm

I hope the coaching staff is hammering the point home about controlling our own destiny. Later this season, we could find ourselves on the bubble for the 6th seed hoping that another team gets us into the playoffs. The lesson is that winning determines their destiny, so I'd rather they learn that now.
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Re: Inaugural In Season Tournament 2023-24 

Post#260 » by Knightro » Wed Nov 29, 2023 1:26 pm

MagicMatic wrote:It still pisses me off that Mosely put the third string in against Brooklyn.

Like… shouldn’t you of all people know the implications of such a dumb move? Not really an argument to be made otherwise and won’t hear one.

Anyway… who cares. Boston was going to run up the score with starters in regardless and the Raptors are complete ass. Don’t want to hear about how good they think Barnes is for the rest of the season after that. Have fun trading your roster away for picks you scrubs.


I know that you said you won’t hear an argument to be made otherwise, but!!!

1. It was the first night of a back-to-back. Who’s to say if the Magic play hard in the final six minutes of that 4th quarter they don’t burn up their legs and cost themselves a win the next night in Chicago?

2. It was also the first game of the tournament for the Magic and frankly I just don’t think that there was enough of an understanding yet (not just with the Magic, but collectively) about how much of a factor point differential would play. Teams weren’t really trying to run up the score late in games as aggressively as they ended up doing that until the third or fourth group game.

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