PG: Good Win

[ForeverTFC]

Barnes has looked like the best player on the court against some awesome players in his career. He just needs to channel this consistently. At the same time, the team needs to put himself in this position more consistently.

Yeah I think both can be true.

Scotties effort level and engagement is inconsistent.
The way he’s used isn’t always best for his skill set.

Exactly! Not sure why this continues to be a debate on this board. Sometimes he dogs it. Sometimes the team puts him in a terrible position. Sometimes he just needs to play through it like he did tonight. He wasn’t given the ball to start the fourth, he took it. And when he was successful, the team started giving it to him. THAT is how you ascend and respond to not being given the keys—you take them.

The lineup with Precious in for Jakob and Flynn in for Schroder gave him the confidence and rhythim to be able to do that - thank god Precious was decent today. He got rolling in that lineup and when Schroder came back in, Scottie kept the ball, and Schroder allowed it because it was working.

I'll continue to say this: the usage problem we have is due to Dennis Schroder. Dennis wants to run the team and he's not going to get off ball for Scottie to do so. There have been multiple instances now where Schroder has sulked in the back court when Scottie has refused to give him the ball on an inbounds. Darko is not going to be able to reign him in because no coach can - the only player Schroder has ever deferred to is Lebron.

Scottie definitely needs to demand it more and go take it. But we also need to remove Schroder from this equation.

[Tripod]

Need a beat writer to ask bum ass Darko why we went away from Siakam guarding guards and Scottie being a roaming defender to Scottie and Siakam switching places over the last 2 weeks or so.

We've conveniently gone from a top 7 defence to not even being in the top 10 since we made that switch. Cowardly stuff from Darko.

Idk what the numbers say but it feels like Siakam gets blown by on the perimeter most of the time lol. Scottie does too. They are both mid at perimeter defense but atleast Scottie is a pretty good helpside defender.

Siakam was actually doing kind of decent, it’s not like we were asking him to guard the lead guards.

Scottie is just a significantly better helpside defender yet we’ve gone away from that. Even worse, they’re putting him on lead guards.

Isn’t that Dennis Schroder’s job ?? Just very perplexing lol.

Yeah you would think a fast guard who is good on D...should guard other guards. But nit lately. So weird.

[Scase]

Scottie easily should have had 7 assists at least if Precious and Siakam made some layups.



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I'm so tired of seeing these guys just cough up free points. It's absurd how frequently it happens.

[Scase]

And he's being nice

Need a beat writer to ask bum ass Darko why we went away from Siakam guarding guards and Scottie being a roaming defender to Scottie and Siakam switching places over the last 2 weeks or so.

We've conveniently gone from a top 7 defence to not even being in the top 10 since we made that switch. Cowardly stuff from Darko.

we gotta preserve our star, let him stand in the corner and lose him man constantly while not boxing out

All while putting up a blistering 20% from 3. Truly an all NBA performer.

[Tor_Raps]

I really wanted the Flynn redemption arc to be a thing, but I really don’t think it’s gonna happen. This team desperately needs a guard off the bench other than Gary.

We have gotten to the point where if Flynn doesn't screw up that we're happy. Practically every team has a backup guard that can change the momentum of the game. We have a guy who flat out isn't a rotational player in the nba and it costs us a lot us wins.

Really wish we could get Brogdan but I'm scared what he'll cost. We need someone impactful like that who can ease the pressure off Schroder every night.

[HumbleRen]

I really wanted the Flynn redemption arc to be a thing, but I really don’t think it’s gonna happen. This team desperately needs a guard off the bench other than Gary.

We have gotten to the point where if Flynn doesn't screw up that we're happy. Practically every team has a backup guard that can change the momentum of the game. We have a guy who flat out isn't a rotational player in the nba and it costs us a lot us wins.

Really wish we could get Brogdan but I'm scared what he'll cost. We need someone impactful like that who can ease the pressure off Schroder every night.

Knicks having Quickley off the bench is hilarious man.

Dude would be our 2nd best scorer lol. What a luxury to have.

[TorontoBarneys]

I really wanted the Flynn redemption arc to be a thing, but I really don’t think it’s gonna happen. This team desperately needs a guard off the bench other than Gary.

We have gotten to the point where if Flynn doesn't screw up that we're happy. Practically every team has a backup guard that can change the momentum of the game. We have a guy who flat out isn't a rotational player in the nba and it costs us a lot us wins.

Really wish we could get Brogdan but I'm scared what he'll cost. We need someone impactful like that who can ease the pressure off Schroder every night.

Knicks having Quickley off the bench is hilarious man.

Dude would be our 2nd best scorer lol. What a luxury to have.

Knicks have good pieces & picks in a potential Pascal trade.

[Tor_Raps]

We really need to have Siakam guard out on the perimeter. He's better guarding one-on-one and Scottie is a better help defender, but instead we have Scottie guarding out on the perimeter.

This has been obvious for so long, not to mention that Barnes is our best rebounder in traffic. I love Siakam but he gets bodied a lot downlow and has nonexistent help defense.

[LJKO]

I seriously don't understand Darko at all with the way he plays Barnes. He should be make both Barnes and Pascal attack inside the post and not Barnes camping in the corner shooting 3s. Same with Barnes and the bench ASS scrub lineup; he should be the one running the point and attacking post not Flynn. Flynn, Trent, Boucher should be the one camping the corners and taking shots

[Appostis]

With the Raptors getting back in TO at 4am for a B2B


This is a fantastic win

I guarantee you the Suns went out last night, and at least KD was with Drake. But we'll take it.

Read on Twitter

You know they hitting up Square One.

Great...

Raptors still got in at 4 am...and still played a B2B *shrug*

[traps#10]

Yeah I think both can be true.

Scotties effort level and engagement is inconsistent.
The way he’s used isn’t always best for his skill set.

Exactly! Not sure why this continues to be a debate on this board. Sometimes he dogs it. Sometimes the team puts him in a terrible position. Sometimes he just needs to play through it like he did tonight. He wasn’t given the ball to start the fourth, he took it. And when he was successful, the team started giving it to him. THAT is how you ascend and respond to not being given the keys—you take them.

The lineup with Precious in for Jakob and Flynn in for Schroder gave him the confidence and rhythim to be able to do that - thank god Precious was decent today. He got rolling in that lineup and when Schroder came back in, Scottie kept the ball, and Schroder allowed it because it was working.

I'll continue to say this: the usage problem we have is due to Dennis Schroder. Dennis wants to run the team and he's not going to get off ball for Scottie to do so. There have been multiple instances now where Schroder has sulked in the back court when Scottie has refused to give him the ball on an inbounds. Darko is not going to be able to reign him in because no coach can - the only player Schroder has ever deferred to is Lebron.

Scottie definitely needs to demand it more and go take it. But we also need to remove Schroder from this equation.

I too have an eye for body language and have noticed this on a number of occasions during the season. Even last night against Brooklyn, Dennis didn’t bother getting into offensive position and was sulking in the backcourt when Barnes was dribbling up the ball quickly. The Raptors were essentially playing 4 on 5 on offense.

Darko needs to remind Dennis that Scottie should be prioritized but I don’t think Darko has the heart to say that to his buddy Dennis.

[johanliebert]

Let’s be real, the only acceptable W tonight was a Scottie led effort in the 4th

A Dennis and Yak led W would have done nothing for me, for you, for the future of this team

This type of win gives you hope, excitement, and something to look forward to

It’s confirmed. Most of you stan men.

[johanliebert]

Exactly! Not sure why this continues to be a debate on this board. Sometimes he dogs it. Sometimes the team puts him in a terrible position. Sometimes he just needs to play through it like he did tonight. He wasn’t given the ball to start the fourth, he took it. And when he was successful, the team started giving it to him. THAT is how you ascend and respond to not being given the keys—you take them.

The lineup with Precious in for Jakob and Flynn in for Schroder gave him the confidence and rhythim to be able to do that - thank god Precious was decent today. He got rolling in that lineup and when Schroder came back in, Scottie kept the ball, and Schroder allowed it because it was working.

I'll continue to say this: the usage problem we have is due to Dennis Schroder. Dennis wants to run the team and he's not going to get off ball for Scottie to do so. There have been multiple instances now where Schroder has sulked in the back court when Scottie has refused to give him the ball on an inbounds. Darko is not going to be able to reign him in because no coach can - the only player Schroder has ever deferred to is Lebron.

Scottie definitely needs to demand it more and go take it. But we also need to remove Schroder from this equation.

I too have an eye for body language and have noticed this on a number of occasions during the season. Even last night against Brooklyn, Dennis didn’t bother getting into offensive position and was sulking in the backcourt when Barnes was dribbling up the ball quickly. The Raptors were essentially playing 4 on 5 on offense.

Darko needs to remind Dennis that Scottie should be prioritized but I don’t think Darko has the heart to say that to his buddy Dennis.

First fvv was jealous of barnes and now its dennis. What an imagination this board has.

[ForeverTFC]

The lineup with Precious in for Jakob and Flynn in for Schroder gave him the confidence and rhythim to be able to do that - thank god Precious was decent today. He got rolling in that lineup and when Schroder came back in, Scottie kept the ball, and Schroder allowed it because it was working.

I'll continue to say this: the usage problem we have is due to Dennis Schroder. Dennis wants to run the team and he's not going to get off ball for Scottie to do so. There have been multiple instances now where Schroder has sulked in the back court when Scottie has refused to give him the ball on an inbounds. Darko is not going to be able to reign him in because no coach can - the only player Schroder has ever deferred to is Lebron.

Scottie definitely needs to demand it more and go take it. But we also need to remove Schroder from this equation.

I too have an eye for body language and have noticed this on a number of occasions during the season. Even last night against Brooklyn, Dennis didn’t bother getting into offensive position and was sulking in the backcourt when Barnes was dribbling up the ball quickly. The Raptors were essentially playing 4 on 5 on offense.

Darko needs to remind Dennis that Scottie should be prioritized but I don’t think Darko has the heart to say that to his buddy Dennis.

First fvv was jealous of barnes and now its dennis. What an imagination this board has.

It's not imagination and it's not a Darko thing, this is who Dennis is. The Celtics had him on a much better bargain contract and traded him. Why?

Since arriving in Boston, Dennis Schroder has been arguably the most polarizing player on the Celtics...

When first arriving in Boston, Schroder’s main impact came as a scoring option to help off the bench and serve as a sparkplug for the second unit. With the team struggling offensively, Schroder’s scoring ability soon pushed the conversation towards a bigger role for the veteran guard, and he found himself as an integral part of Boston’s rotation. Some of his scoring bursts had helped the Celtics win games, especially his season-high 38 points against the Milwaukee Bucks back in November.

As the season went on and the Celtics struggled to find consistency, some issues about Schroder’s fit on the team became clear. Schroder and Smart didn’t fit together due to Schroder’s need as a primary ballhandler and Smart’s shooting, and Schroder’s tendency to get tunnel vision soon grew to undeniable levels. More whispers of Schroder being on the block began to spread, and Ime Udoka notably started to stray away from him. The Schroder-Celtics honeymoon phase was over in a flash, and now it seems like the veteran has all but checked out on the team in the last month.

https://www.celticsblog.com/2022/2/3/22912639/dennis-schroder-boston-celtics-out-nba-trade-deadline

Does this sound familiar to anyone? We're living through the Dennis Schroder experience and the hate for FVV has some folks looking at him through rose colored glasses.

[traps#10]

The lineup with Precious in for Jakob and Flynn in for Schroder gave him the confidence and rhythim to be able to do that - thank god Precious was decent today. He got rolling in that lineup and when Schroder came back in, Scottie kept the ball, and Schroder allowed it because it was working.

I'll continue to say this: the usage problem we have is due to Dennis Schroder. Dennis wants to run the team and he's not going to get off ball for Scottie to do so. There have been multiple instances now where Schroder has sulked in the back court when Scottie has refused to give him the ball on an inbounds. Darko is not going to be able to reign him in because no coach can - the only player Schroder has ever deferred to is Lebron.

Scottie definitely needs to demand it more and go take it. But we also need to remove Schroder from this equation.

I too have an eye for body language and have noticed this on a number of occasions during the season. Even last night against Brooklyn, Dennis didn’t bother getting into offensive position and was sulking in the backcourt when Barnes was dribbling up the ball quickly. The Raptors were essentially playing 4 on 5 on offense.

Darko needs to remind Dennis that Scottie should be prioritized but I don’t think Darko has the heart to say that to his buddy Dennis.

First fvv was jealous of barnes and now its dennis. What an imagination this board has.

Obviously you don’t watch the game closely enough

[jeeves123]

Good God, Durant is terrifying. Never felt safe till he missed that last 3.

[PushDaRock]

I too have an eye for body language and have noticed this on a number of occasions during the season. Even last night against Brooklyn, Dennis didn’t bother getting into offensive position and was sulking in the backcourt when Barnes was dribbling up the ball quickly. The Raptors were essentially playing 4 on 5 on offense.

Darko needs to remind Dennis that Scottie should be prioritized but I don’t think Darko has the heart to say that to his buddy Dennis.

First fvv was jealous of barnes and now its dennis. What an imagination this board has.

Obviously you don’t watch the game closely enough

He dislikes Scottie so much that he decides to post Scottie wearing the postgame chain on his IG.

[Chalky_White]

Great defense to stifle the Suns.

Koreen had a line yesterday about the offense mostly being scottie and Pascal playing volleyball with the rim and there was still too much of that today. Not sure how much can change with the present personnel.

[ForeverTFC]

First fvv was jealous of barnes and now its dennis. What an imagination this board has.

Obviously you don’t watch the game closely enough

He dislikes Scottie so much that he decides to post Scottie wearing the postgame chain on his IG.

Nobody says he dislikes him. I'm sure all these guys are nice guys and probably get along to some degree. It's the play style. It has nothing to do with Scottie. It was the same with Dennis when he played with Tatum and Brown. His game is very ball dominant and it freezes others out unless they're the one in the action with him.

[goinrogue]

Obviously you don’t watch the game closely enough

He dislikes Scottie so much that he decides to post Scottie wearing the postgame chain on his IG.

Nobody says he dislikes him. I'm sure all these guys are nice guys and probably get along to some degree. It's the play style. It has nothing to do with Scottie. It was the same with Dennis when he played with Tatum and Brown. His game is very ball dominant and it freezes others out unless they're the one in the action with him.

Exactly. I wonder if Darko is oblivious to it though.