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Re: PG: Good Win 

Post#221 » by HumbleRen » Thu Nov 30, 2023 2:16 pm

Jadoogar wrote:
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Childs wrote:I wish we could trade Siakam for a good young core guard.


This team is still missing an explosive 3 level scoring SG.


lol how many of those types of players are there in the league?


a ton if you include lead guards, Masai just doesn't find value in them hence our offence being ass the last couple of years :lol:
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Re: PG: Good Win 

Post#222 » by Jadoogar » Thu Nov 30, 2023 2:18 pm

HumbleRen wrote:
Jadoogar wrote:
Dude-niagara wrote:
This team is still missing an explosive 3 level scoring SG.


lol how many of those types of players are there in the league?


a ton if you include lead guards, Masai just doesn't find value in them hence our offence being ass the last couple of years :lol:


If you're not a PF who can't shoot, Masai is not interested.
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Re: PG: Good Win 

Post#223 » by rapsincr » Thu Nov 30, 2023 2:37 pm

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nikster wrote:
DemHeavyHands wrote:And you stan treadmills

Yeah what kind of loser enjoys his team winning games


Let him. He is clearly a Scottie barnes fan, not a Toronto Raptors fans, which is ok. Nobody is forced to have a Team.

so because somebody doesnt see this as a contending team and would rather build around a 22 year star as opposed to spending the next few years in purgatory hoping for play-in births, hes not a raptors fan? these types of arguments are completely disingenuous.
one could argue the exact opposite, someone wanting a team to remain mediocre is not a real fan.
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Re: PG: Good Win 

Post#224 » by onions17 » Thu Nov 30, 2023 2:41 pm

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Duffman100 wrote:If we could get someone like Burks or Bogdonovic from the Pistons without giving up too much, I'd like that.

If precious can just be average, not even good, and have a 3 key bench pieces in GTJ/Precious alongside one of those guys you mention, could be the makings of dare I say a bench?

Koloko returning would be huge too

Any word on what’s going on with Koloko?
I read some posts speculating that he might have a career ending health issue, but he always looks in pretty good spirits on the bench lol
Just strange if zero news or leaks have came out with his situation
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Re: PG: Good Win 

Post#225 » by Shakril » Thu Nov 30, 2023 2:54 pm

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nikster wrote:Yeah what kind of loser enjoys his team winning games


Let him. He is clearly a Scottie barnes fan, not a Toronto Raptors fans, which is ok. Nobody is forced to have a Team.

so because somebody doesnt see this as a contending team and would rather build around a 22 year star as opposed to spending the next few years in purgatory hoping for play-in births, hes not a raptors fan? these types of arguments are completely disingenuous.
one could argue the exact opposite, someone wanting a team to remain mediocre is not a real fan.


No, the problem was, that he would not have cheered this victory if someone else than Barnes was the main protagonist.
And such a person is not a Fan of a Team. Even if you are a bad team, you should always cheer your team on to victory.


Disingenouos is that you didnt bother to review the context of my sentence.

Wanting Change for your team, does not mean that you cant enjoy a good victory, and that was one.
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Re: PG: Good Win 

Post#226 » by Shakril » Thu Nov 30, 2023 2:56 pm

onions17 wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:If we could get someone like Burks or Bogdonovic from the Pistons without giving up too much, I'd like that.

If precious can just be average, not even good, and have a 3 key bench pieces in GTJ/Precious alongside one of those guys you mention, could be the makings of dare I say a bench?

Koloko returning would be huge too

Any word on what’s going on with Koloko?
I read some posts speculating that he might have a career ending health issue, but he always looks in pretty good spirits on the bench lol
Just strange if zero news or leaks have came out with his situation


By this Point, i would not count anymore on Koloko. Unless some miracle happens, i dont believe that he will have any significance in the future for the Raptors. Sadly, a BackUp C would be wonderful.
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Re: PG: Good Win 

Post#227 » by TorontoBarneys » Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:08 pm

Shakril wrote:
rapsincr wrote:
Shakril wrote:
Let him. He is clearly a Scottie barnes fan, not a Toronto Raptors fans, which is ok. Nobody is forced to have a Team.

so because somebody doesnt see this as a contending team and would rather build around a 22 year star as opposed to spending the next few years in purgatory hoping for play-in births, hes not a raptors fan? these types of arguments are completely disingenuous.
one could argue the exact opposite, someone wanting a team to remain mediocre is not a real fan.


No, the problem was, that he would not have cheered this victory if someone else than Barnes was the main protagonist.
And such a person is not a Fan of a Team. Even if you are a bad team, you should always cheer your team on to victory.


Disingenouos is that you didnt bother to review the context of my sentence.

Wanting Change for your team, does not mean that you cant enjoy a good victory, and that was one.


This might be hard to wrap your head around but being a fan of the team goes beyond being a fan of the current roster.
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Re: PG: Good Win 

Post#228 » by Tha Cynic » Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:09 pm

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ForeverTFC wrote:Also, Scottie with a shot at Darko/Dennis in that post game interview.

Paraphrasing:
Q: What allowed you to do what you did in the 4th?
A: Getting the ball at the top of the key and being able to distribute to my teammates.

There was a CLEAR difference in how Barnes was used with that bench unit in the 4th compared to the 2nd.

Some want Barnes to just take control, but ignore that Darko was coaching Achiuwa to the top of the key making decisions while Barnes is in a shooters spot in tge 2nd Q...and lots of other games.

Today we saw them switch and the offense was much better, we didn't watch Flynn and Achiuwa run pnr after pnr while others watched.

Today, is how it should be from now on. Hopefully Darko sees the obvious.


I haven't watched this game, but Darko insisting on having Jak/Precious/Boucher being our hub decision makers while Siakam/Barnes watch them remains a top 3 mystifying coaching decision.


You're kind of limited in what you can do with Poeltl on the floor, so they use Barnes on the perimeter to pull Jak away from the paint. But it makes no sense to do this with Aichuwa and Boucher. This team's offense would look way better if they could get a 5 who could shoot. You wouldn't be forced to play Poeltl as an offensive hub .

One thing with Darko is that he seems to have a set idea of what he wants every position to be. He hasn't been very good at adjusting based on game needs.
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Re: PG: Good Win 

Post#229 » by kwajo » Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:12 pm

jeeves123 wrote:Good God, Durant is terrifying. Never felt safe till he missed that last 3.


Love him or hate him, Durant has that special ability to instill fear into an opponent that only the all-time greats have.
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Re: PG: Good Win 

Post#230 » by TorontoBarneys » Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:14 pm

kwajo wrote:
jeeves123 wrote:Good God, Durant is terrifying. Never felt safe till he missed that last 3.


Love him or hate him, Durant has that special ability to instill fear into an opponent that only the all-time greats have.


Watching him play is always a treat. He's one of my favorite players in the league. Just superlative style of play.
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Re: PG: Good Win 

Post#231 » by HumbleRen » Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:29 pm

TorontoBarneys wrote:
kwajo wrote:
jeeves123 wrote:Good God, Durant is terrifying. Never felt safe till he missed that last 3.


Love him or hate him, Durant has that special ability to instill fear into an opponent that only the all-time greats have.


Watching him play is always a treat. He's one of my favorite players in the league. Just superlative style of play.


All his shots felt like good shots even if they weren’t going in.

Perks of being a fluid 7 footer lol.
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Re: PG: Good Win 

Post#232 » by talha_raps » Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:34 pm

What kind of a thread title is this? Goodwin plays for the suns and they lost
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Re: PG: Good Win 

Post#233 » by Raptorfan2012 » Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:44 pm

Suns play next to no defense. Their game is to hope Durant and Booker can outscore the opposing team (and hope Beal can come back on the court). Good luck in the playoffs.
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Re: PG: Good Win 

Post#234 » by And1Skip » Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:46 pm

lobosloboslobos wrote:
Red_Claw wrote:Did not like Pascal's answer at 9:42. Writing is on the wall and he gotta go.




"like i think he does a good job to get us to try to kinda like do some of the things he wants us to do..." :roll:


Yep and compare that to what Devin Booker had to say post-game about Darko...all love.."dang, I wish we still had Darko.."
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Re: PG: Good Win 

Post#235 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:47 pm

traps#10 wrote:Notice when Scottie dominates and has a great game, he involves his teammates and isn’t a black hole? Also he can be a dominate force on both ends and all facets of the game not just scoring.


To be fair, so does Siakam. Neither are the most gifted scorers though
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Re: PG: Good Win 

Post#236 » by Madvillainy2004 » Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:51 pm

HumbleRen wrote:
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Red_Claw wrote:Did not like Pascal's answer at 9:42. Writing is on the wall and he gotta go.



clown ass question, "in terms of human relationship what do you like most with darko", cringe af.

I have zero issues with guys putting some realness into their answers, are you really craving some generic athlete bs answer that badly? Darko hasn't exactly been boosting siakam to the media either.


I think people just want a bunch of sports movie cliche quotes lol.

It's pretty clear at this point that Siakam doesn't think much of Darko's coaching pedigree and that Darko wasn't really familiar with Siakam's game. No clue why the media desperately wants them say glowing things about each other, it just makes for awkward moments.


Considering how close Shams said a deal was to being done in the summer and how Darko didnt say much of anything about Pascal all summer, pretty obvious Siakam wasnt in the plans for this season lol. Thats more on Masai/Bobby than Siakam or Darko tho its an awkward situation created entirely by management.
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Post#237 » by TorontoBarneys » Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:56 pm

Everyone talking about the situation between Pascal and Scottie not coexisting well but OG is quietly having a very low usage offensive season and his ppg is trending downward. Lowered usg% compared to last season, too.

I doubt he's too happy about that. Roster balance goes beyond accomodating Barnes.
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Re: PG: Good Win 

Post#238 » by nikster » Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:56 pm

TorontoBarneys wrote:
Shakril wrote:
rapsincr wrote:so because somebody doesnt see this as a contending team and would rather build around a 22 year star as opposed to spending the next few years in purgatory hoping for play-in births, hes not a raptors fan? these types of arguments are completely disingenuous.
one could argue the exact opposite, someone wanting a team to remain mediocre is not a real fan.


No, the problem was, that he would not have cheered this victory if someone else than Barnes was the main protagonist.
And such a person is not a Fan of a Team. Even if you are a bad team, you should always cheer your team on to victory.


Disingenouos is that you didnt bother to review the context of my sentence.

Wanting Change for your team, does not mean that you cant enjoy a good victory, and that was one.


This might be hard to wrap your head around but being a fan of the team goes beyond being a fan of the current roster.

Why do you have to be a fan of the current roster to enjoy a win over a great team? We dont have our pick anyway this year so it's not like we're cheering for losses.
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Re: PG: Good Win 

Post#239 » by TorontoBarneys » Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:57 pm

nikster wrote:
TorontoBarneys wrote:
Shakril wrote:
No, the problem was, that he would not have cheered this victory if someone else than Barnes was the main protagonist.
And such a person is not a Fan of a Team. Even if you are a bad team, you should always cheer your team on to victory.


Disingenouos is that you didnt bother to review the context of my sentence.

Wanting Change for your team, does not mean that you cant enjoy a good victory, and that was one.


This might be hard to wrap your head around but being a fan of the team goes beyond being a fan of the current roster.

Why do you have to be a fan of the current roster to enjoy a win over a great team? We dont have our pick anyway this year so it's not like we're cheering for losses.


I enjoyed last night's win and I'm not a fan of the current roster, so I think we are in agreement here?
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Re: PG: Good Win 

Post#240 » by Scase » Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:57 pm

ForeverTFC wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
traps#10 wrote:
Obviously you don’t watch the game closely enough


He dislikes Scottie so much that he decides to post Scottie wearing the postgame chain on his IG.


Nobody says he dislikes him. I'm sure all these guys are nice guys and probably get along to some degree. It's the play style. It has nothing to do with Scottie. It was the same with Dennis when he played with Tatum and Brown. His game is very ball dominant and it freezes others out unless they're the one in the action with him.

Yeah I don't think anyone on most teams dislikes their teammates, hell with as much vitriol I had towards the FVV/Scottie dynamic last year, I wouldn't even say there's an issue there.

It's just a really bad fit for players and their play style, Scottie is a team/pass first player, and Dennis/FVV are more shoot first, granted I gotta give kudos to FVV (based on stats alone, I haven't watched much rockets this year) for seemingly being much better getting the team involved this year. But I guess when your starting line up has a 44%, 37%, 36%, 36%, and 31% 3pt shooters, it's a bit easier to manage haha.

Dennis in a vacuum wasn't a bad pick up, same as Jak, they just don't really fit the playstyle of what is supposed to be the franchise/focal point of the team.
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