Bears 2023 thread V

[Chi town]

https://youtu.be/W9ImrW4QCMQ?si=5O7ZjBR8fTNe2aXG

At 6’4 I’m seeing Daniels as a freak in his ability to run and toss it. He is decisive, gets through his read quick, calm in the pocket, and anticipates. He does get a lot of time to throw and has great WRs. Kelley is a good offensive coach too. Maybe he has developed him.

I’m not into Maye at all.
CW has all the talent but all the signals are bad vibes.

Mocks have Daniels 5-7 now.

[biggestbullsfan]

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[Kurt Heimlich]

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Whats up with Diana's voice here? Sounds like she's doing the Theranos Elizabeth Holmes hilariously fake deep voice thing? Audio probably just slowed in the clip for copywright purposes I suppose. Harbaugh is a mad lad but I'd definitely take Jim over Flus especially if we're rebooting the OC/QB which seems like an obvious need to me at least.

[Chi town]

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Posted a couple pages back… Gabriel said no one in the nfl will touch Harbaugh. He’s delusional and FO’s think the game has passed him. Harbaugh thought he had MIN job locked up and he wasn’t even in consideration.

[Almost Retired]

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/nfl-head-coaching-candidates-2024/

If not Harbaugh then we should go after Ben Johnson. Or Steve Spagnola if he'd bring in a top OC. Or Eric Bieniemy if he'd bring in a top DC.

[molepharmer]

I'd be surprised if Flus isn't the coach next year. Right now, in my mind, thinking 80%-ish likely he returns.

[IliketheBullsNBearstoo]

Jeff Hughes reports Fields skepticism in the Building.

(3) Is the quarterback’s tenure in Chicago officially over? If the season ended Monday night, that answer would surely be yes; the lack of week-to-week consistency would not prohibit the Bears from using one of their high draft picks on a quarterback prospect. Fields has ability; he is a brilliant runner capable of making dynamic plays off-script. But if you listened to Troy Aikman on Monday night, you heard an analyst incredibly skeptical of Fields’ ability to play the position from the pocket. Folks in the building share that skepticism

https://www.dabearsblog.com/2023/five-questions-with-five-games-remaining

I’m skeptical, I’d say most fans who are rooting for him whether they admit it or not are skeptical. He still has a lot to prove and not much time to do it. I read or heard somewhere though that Troy Aikman is leaning towards the idea the bears should be sticking with Fields and drafting more talent around him.

I say lets gather more info for the remainder of the season then we can just say f it lets just….

[panthermark]

Very interesting video.
That sight adjustment part reminds me of why I was so mad at Kmet earlier against Denver, but he is playing better now.
Hey, isn't there a former Bears coach in KC now?

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[Jcool0]

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Posted a couple pages back… Gabriel said no one in the nfl will touch Harbaugh. He’s delusional and FO’s think the game has passed him. Harbaugh thought he had MIN job locked up and he wasn’t even in consideration.

FWIW Gabriel is not a credible person. His hot takes are laughable, his "sources" are made up and the game has 100% passed him by. Only thing somewhat amusing is he will freak out on anyone who even remotely questions him.

[Jcool0]

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/nfl-head-coaching-candidates-2024/

If not Harbaugh then we should go after Ben Johnson. Or Steve Spagnola if he'd bring in a top OC. Or Eric Bieniemy if he'd bring in a top DC.

Um you do know Spagnola went 11-41 as a head coach. There wouldn't be a more worse hire then him.

[HearshotKDS]

I think what might be best for this offense is a mix of short passes, moving pockets and vertical strikes, with the occasional mid range pass thrown in to mix it up. Combine that with the strong run game and OCCASIONAL QB keeper.

Screens, slants, hooks, quick outs, AND deep strikes. Keep moving the pocket. I think some of those screens need to go vertical. Maybe a fake to one side, while the opposite side streaks. Last weeks play calling was better, we just needed a few more slants one or two more vertical routes (like the one Scott could not reel in).

You want to protect Fields and the O-line = Short passing game and moving pockets....plus strong run game.
The short game/run leads to 8 or 9 in the box and tight coverage. That is what the deep passes are for..... to punish that behavior.
The short/long combo game allows for the occasional mid-range game since that is not the strength of this team unless it is wide open (which is why it is occasional, and should always have a check down RB out of the backfield. LB's are close due to the run game/short pass...but it is still a 2 high look. It opens space between LB's and safeties).

Basically, mix up the Detroit game plan with some of the Washington game plan (and add more slants, hooks, and quick outs instead of depending on 3 WR screens or 4 RB screens in a row).

There was a previous regime, can't recall who, but they were in love with the seldom working wide receiver screen. This past game brought back the nightmare.

I also thought throwing downfield was one of Fields' plusses. But as you said, at least find out.

Trestman was the one who loved WR screens. Nagy was in love with the 3-4 hitch routes per pass play.

[jnrjr79]

I'd be surprised if Flus isn't the coach next year. Right now, in my mind, thinking 80%-ish likely he returns.

If the season ended today, I think he's gone. But if the Bears play well down the stretch, let's say 2-3 wins including a season-ending win over the Packers, then I could see them bringing back Flus and bringing in a new OC.

Flus's track record is obviously terrible over the course of his tenure, but the couple things I will say for him are 1) this team still plays really hard, and 2) Flus really has the defense cooking. Re: #2, it looks so much better in the past few weeks, and Flus is playing a more aggressive style than was used early on in the season.

[Dresden]

Jeff Hughes reports Fields skepticism in the Building.

(3) Is the quarterback’s tenure in Chicago officially over? If the season ended Monday night, that answer would surely be yes; the lack of week-to-week consistency would not prohibit the Bears from using one of their high draft picks on a quarterback prospect. Fields has ability; he is a brilliant runner capable of making dynamic plays off-script. But if you listened to Troy Aikman on Monday night, you heard an analyst incredibly skeptical of Fields’ ability to play the position from the pocket. Folks in the building share that skepticism

https://www.dabearsblog.com/2023/five-questions-with-five-games-remaining

Justin doesn't pull the trigger. Doesn’t anticipate and throw his WRs open AND he turns it over.

What makes me doubt Fields are that he has 6-12 plays every game where he just doesn't look like an NFL QB. He doesn't look like he knows what he's doing. These are when he has time to throw the ball, doesn't, and then the rush comes, and he just runs around, looking for daylight, not really doing anything that looks constructive, rarely makes a throw that has a chance to be completed, and is either sacked, fumbles, or throws an incompletion. We see far too many of these kinds of plays. At least Bagent would make a decision and throw the ball.

[Almost Retired]

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/nfl-head-coaching-candidates-2024/

If not Harbaugh then we should go after Ben Johnson. Or Steve Spagnola if he'd bring in a top OC. Or Eric Bieniemy if he'd bring in a top DC.

Um you do know Spagnola went 11-41 as a head coach. There wouldn't be a more worse hire then him.

It's not always the coach's fault. Even the best Head Coaches can't win if the roster sucks. Spagnola can coach defense. Pair him with a good OC and enough talent and he could coach us to a winning record. The Chiefs went on a youth movement a couple years ago defensively and he got them ready to play really quick. So he knows how to coach and how to develop players. We could do worse. And have.

[MissileMike]

Jeff Hughes reports Fields skepticism in the Building.



https://www.dabearsblog.com/2023/five-questions-with-five-games-remaining

Justin doesn't pull the trigger. Doesn’t anticipate and throw his WRs open AND he turns it over.

What makes me doubt Fields are that he has 6-12 plays every game where he just doesn't look like an NFL QB. He doesn't look like he knows what he's doing. These are when he has time to throw the ball, doesn't, and then the rush comes, and he just runs around, looking for daylight, not really doing anything that looks constructive, rarely makes a throw that has a chance to be completed, and is either sacked, fumbles, or throws an incompletion. We see far too many of these kinds of plays. At least Bagent would make a decision and throw the ball.

There are also some bad misses on easy throws to open receivers. Though, he has cut down on those somewhat.

[Almost Retired]

Very interesting video.
That sight adjustment part reminds me of why I was so mad at Kmet earlier against Denver, but he is playing better now.
Hey, isn't there a former Bears coach in KC now?

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Great video. Thanks for posting. I've watched quite a few Chiefs games this year. And I've seen his WRs drop a lot of easy catches. Looks like they need to invest some draft picks in the offense. This is a deep WR draft. Someone like Troy Franklin or Xavier Legette would probably be available with their FRP. But Mahomes needs a better supporting cast.

[IliketheBullsNBearstoo]

I wonder if Caleb saying his entering of the draft this year is a game time decision based on us being projected to get the top pick.

[fleet]

I wonder if Caleb saying his entering of the draft this year is a game time decision based on us being projected to get the top pick.

I think its based on a coach and system he agrees with. But you don’t often hear quarterbacks making these kinds of comments/decisions. I will say, that today’s quarterback can make millions of dollars while waiting for a better destination. So that makes these kinds of scenarios more likely than in the past. But chances are that waiting for the next year would be just as questionable as far as a perfect destination. Really, all Williams has to do is work out a draft day trade to a team that he wants. I’m sure that’s an option for Poles too.

[HoopsterJones]

I wonder if Caleb saying his entering of the draft this year is a game time decision based on us being projected to get the top pick.

He’d be putting himself at risk playing another year of NCAA football. I know with NIL money he’s not hurting for it, but you never know what can happen in a year.

If he’s projected to be drafted top 3, he should commit to the draft.

[Almost Retired]

I wonder if Caleb saying his entering of the draft this year is a game time decision based on us being projected to get the top pick.

Actually, when you compare us to the rest of the bad teams we are probably the best destination....with a new OC. Arizona has a QB and few weapons. New England is a disaster area and will have a new coaching staff next season. The Commanders don't need a QB. The Giants do, and they suck. If Poles drafted Caleb at #1 and added a top receiver to play opposite Moore and added a Center that could play....then we'd be the best destination he could hope for. Despite our history with QBs.