PG: Good Win

[Robinator]

guys, found the reason otto isn't playing

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it's because darko thinks hes garrett temple

[binjumper]

Bro, you don’t post like that when we lose.

Let’s be real, the only acceptable W tonight was a Scottie led effort in the 4th

A Dennis and Yak led W would have done nothing for me, for you, for the future of this team

This type of win gives you hope, excitement, and something to look forward to

Internet Karens love crying wanting to speak to mangement

Learn to be happy with Ws

[YogurtProducer]

Bruh I am not even greedy, they can keep their 6 man and I would still happily settle for Hart, Donte or **** even Fournier man. We still have such a glaring hole for backup guard depth that I am still shocked to see Austin Rivers unsigned. He could easily come in and play meaningful minutes for us or plenty of other teams. Shoot, the guy is still only 30yo.

Geez even in a win where Schroeder has 12 assists and 0 turnovers + the game winning layup that he gets criticized for being selfish. Some of you guys are unbelievable and find a way to complain about everything. Dennis has been a godsend this season and probably the best free agent signing of this current regime.

16.2pts, 6.9ast, 3.1ast, 0.9stl. 1.7tov on 55.5%TS (44/37/87) in 31.3mpg with 13.2FGA

4.05 ast/to ratio

His ability to attack defenses and get into the paint is so unappreciated.

Isn't this how we treated fred all last season lol?

Anyone who shoots the ball not named Scottie Barnes is an enemy in the eyes of some of these fans.

Also FVV gotta get some credit for unlocking Sengun, people on here would have had you convinced he only cares about his stats and needs to have 20+ shots a game because of his ego lol

Some people are literally more interested in Scottie getting his shots/stats than the actual quality of the team.

[ill-Will03]

Isn't this how we treated fred all last season lol?

Anyone who shoots the ball not named Scottie Barnes is an enemy in the eyes of some of these fans.

Also FVV gotta get some credit for unlocking Sengun, people on here would have had you convinced he only cares about his stats and needs to have 20+ shots a game because of his ego lol

Fred has been pretty good for the Rockets. His 3 point shooting is back on par, but his field goal percentage is still pretty bad. He's tied with Jokic in assists and is 4th in the league in that category, the best of his career. Regardless, he's an impact player that makes his team better despite many of his flaws. He's not worth 40m a year but he'll benefit every team he's on. Realistically speaking he should be valued at 25-30m a year.

Dennis at 12m a year is far better value than Fred at 43m a year.

Ofc he’s not worth 40m a year but at 25m a year I would have loved to have him back. It just goes to show that a lot of people watch the game with their own bias rather than with a clear view. You didn’t have to wait to see Fred on the rockets to realize he was truly a impact player.

[ill-Will03]

Isn't this how we treated fred all last season lol?

Anyone who shoots the ball not named Scottie Barnes is an enemy in the eyes of some of these fans.

Also FVV gotta get some credit for unlocking Sengun, people on here would have had you convinced he only cares about his stats and needs to have 20+ shots a game because of his ego lol

Some people are literally more interested in Scottie getting his shots/stats than the actual quality of the team.

Yeah unfortunately that’s how this place is. Just wait until we draft someone younger than Scottie and he becomes the scapegoat (it’s only a matter of time)

[pingpongrac]

I don't know how people expect OG to consistently take ~2 more threes per game. He is a very good spot-up shooter (especially from the corners), but he needs to have his looks practically spoonfed to him as he's not creating much good on his own. Teams aren't just going to allow an elite shooter from the corners to attempt even more C&S threes...which leads to the point that you can't just be a spot-up shooter if you want to be in the top 10-15 of the league in 3FGA.

[phanman]

Anyone who shoots the ball not named Scottie Barnes is an enemy in the eyes of some of these fans.

Also FVV gotta get some credit for unlocking Sengun, people on here would have had you convinced he only cares about his stats and needs to have 20+ shots a game because of his ego lol

Some people are literally more interested in Scottie getting his shots/stats than the actual quality of the team.

Yeah unfortunately that’s how this place is. Just wait until we draft someone younger than Scottie and he becomes the scapegoat (it’s only a matter of time)

Its just wild man. As good as Scottie is and can be, is not ready to be the full-time playmaker for a team that obviously wants to compete and rebuild at the same time. He takes a ton of pressure off him and Pascal to fulfill that role and is easily the best ball handler we have to break down opposing defenses.

Although I advocated for him to be the 6th man with Trent starting prior to the season, I am pleasantly surprised by his production thus far and give kudos to Darko for standing behind him. I had some high hopes for Gray going into this year with him being in a contract situation but performance thus far is giving me some Terrence Ross PTSD.

That said, good win and I am glad I tuned into this game in full. Although there weren't any others options to swap to with the Lakers blowing out Detroit early and Embiid sitting out against the Pelicans leading to their blow out.

[YogurtProducer]

Some people are literally more interested in Scottie getting his shots/stats than the actual quality of the team.

Yeah unfortunately that’s how this place is. Just wait until we draft someone younger than Scottie and he becomes the scapegoat (it’s only a matter of time)

Its just wild man. As good as Scottie is and can be, is not ready to be the full-time playmaker for a team that obviously wants to compete and rebuild at the same time. He takes a ton of pressure off him and Pascal to fulfill that role and is easily the best ball handler we have to break down opposing defenses.

Although I advocated for him to be the 6th man with Trent starting prior to the season, I am pleasantly surprised by his production thus far and give kudos to Darko for standing behind him. I had some high hopes for Gray going into this year with him being in a contract situation but performance thus far is giving me some Terrence Ross PTSD.

That said, good win and I am glad I tuned into this game in full. Although there weren't any others options to swap to with the Lakers blowing out Detroit early and Embiid sitting out against the Pelicans leading to their blow out.

Trent has been a bit better lately thankfully. 12.5ppg on 43/38/79 since he returned from injury

[YogurtProducer]

I don't know how people expect OG to consistently take ~2 more threes per game. He is a very good spot-up shooter (especially from the corners), but he needs to have his looks practically spoonfed to him as he's not creating much good on his own. Teams aren't just going to allow an elite shooter from the corners to attempt even more C&S threes...which leads to the point that you can't just be a spot-up shooter if you want to be in the top 10-15 of the league in 3FGA.

Once you realize people think Barnes is Magic and OG is Peja with elite defense and it is Siakam and our system holding them back... things start to make more sense

[Duffman100]

Really hoping for Siakam to trend back up to his last 4 year 3P% which would solve some of this.

[phanman]

Yeah unfortunately that’s how this place is. Just wait until we draft someone younger than Scottie and he becomes the scapegoat (it’s only a matter of time)

Its just wild man. As good as Scottie is and can be, is not ready to be the full-time playmaker for a team that obviously wants to compete and rebuild at the same time. He takes a ton of pressure off him and Pascal to fulfill that role and is easily the best ball handler we have to break down opposing defenses.

Although I advocated for him to be the 6th man with Trent starting prior to the season, I am pleasantly surprised by his production thus far and give kudos to Darko for standing behind him. I had some high hopes for Gray going into this year with him being in a contract situation but performance thus far is giving me some Terrence Ross PTSD.

That said, good win and I am glad I tuned into this game in full. Although there weren't any others options to swap to with the Lakers blowing out Detroit early and Embiid sitting out against the Pelicans leading to their blow out.

Trent has been a bit better lately thankfully. 12.5ppg on 43/38/79 since he returned from injury

Which is just sad that those numbers represent an improvement. I still can't believe we gave up Stormin Normin for this guy.

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

Really hoping for Siakam to trend back up to his last 4 year 3P% which would solve some of this.

Unless he's killing his value on purpose.

[YogurtProducer]

Its just wild man. As good as Scottie is and can be, is not ready to be the full-time playmaker for a team that obviously wants to compete and rebuild at the same time. He takes a ton of pressure off him and Pascal to fulfill that role and is easily the best ball handler we have to break down opposing defenses.

Although I advocated for him to be the 6th man with Trent starting prior to the season, I am pleasantly surprised by his production thus far and give kudos to Darko for standing behind him. I had some high hopes for Gray going into this year with him being in a contract situation but performance thus far is giving me some Terrence Ross PTSD.

That said, good win and I am glad I tuned into this game in full. Although there weren't any others options to swap to with the Lakers blowing out Detroit early and Embiid sitting out against the Pelicans leading to their blow out.

Trent has been a bit better lately thankfully. 12.5ppg on 43/38/79 since he returned from injury

Which is just sad that those numbers represent an improvement. I still can't believe we gave up Stormin Normin for this guy.

? Shooting 38% from 3 on his volume is more than adequate for a player.

[Duffman100]

Really hoping for Siakam to trend back up to his last 4 year 3P% which would solve some of this.

Unless he's killing his value on purpose.

I can't imagine that

a) He'd kill his value which would impact his contract and money.
b) in the heat of battle, he's intentionally missing shots.

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

Really hoping for Siakam to trend back up to his last 4 year 3P% which would solve some of this.

Unless he's killing his value on purpose.

I can't imagine that

a) He'd kill his value which would impact his contract and money.
b) in the heat of battle, he's intentionally missing shots.

It's not that hard to imagine, he did that this summer.
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[phanman]

Trent has been a bit better lately thankfully. 12.5ppg on 43/38/79 since he returned from injury

Which is just sad that those numbers represent an improvement. I still can't believe we gave up Stormin Normin for this guy.

? Shooting 38% from 3 on his volume is more than adequate for a player.

The percentage is nice, but the inconsistency is just too much to overlook. His game has just straight up stagnated since he's been with us and 37.8% isn't good enough if all he is to us a floor spacer.

I was just expecting more from our 24yo SG who should be doing a better job at filling our glaring needs. Especially with the chemistry that was lost with Norman's departure and how hot he's been from deep for the Clippers while also mixing in his ability to still attack the rim.

[PushDaRock]

Which is just sad that those numbers represent an improvement. I still can't believe we gave up Stormin Normin for this guy.

? Shooting 38% from 3 on his volume is more than adequate for a player.

The percentage is nice, but the inconsistency is just too much to overlook. His game has just straight up stagnated since he's been with us and 37.8% isn't good enough if all he is to us a floor spacer.

I was just expecting more from our 24yo SG who should be doing a better job at filling our glaring needs. Especially with the chemistry that was lost with Norman's departure and how hot he's been from deep for the Clippers while also mixing in his ability to still attack the rim.

I think it's frustrating that he still has the exact same skillset as when he came over here but he's also showed zero flashes of being able to do anything else before that so it shouldn't be too surprising either. If you're going to have someone as one dimensional as him though, you want him to be elite at that one skill. The ability to make contested shots is something every team needs to have sometimes but the inability to score at even league average efficiency basically negates that skill all together.

[binjumper]

Unless he's killing his value on purpose.

I can't imagine that

a) He'd kill his value which would impact his contract and money.
b) in the heat of battle, he's intentionally missing shots.

It's not that hard to imagine, he did that this summer.
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lol yeah he wants to miss on millions of dollars, so he doesn't get traded.

[lobosloboslobos]

I don't know how people expect OG to consistently take ~2 more threes per game. He is a very good spot-up shooter (especially from the corners), but he needs to have his looks practically spoonfed to him as he's not creating much good on his own. Teams aren't just going to allow an elite shooter from the corners to attempt even more C&S threes...which leads to the point that you can't just be a spot-up shooter if you want to be in the top 10-15 of the league in 3FGA.

Once you realize people think Barnes is Magic and OG is Peja with elite defense and it is Siakam and our system holding them back... things start to make more sense

Hang on. Again, to be clear, OG currently shoots 6.3 3s a game. Somehow despite the impossibility of it happening, non-Magic and non-Peja and other guys manage to find him for all those assisted spot up 3s he takes and makes. Yet you are absolutely utterly convinced that it is madness to think that he could get an extra .7 of a shot a game or - gasp - even 1.7 more a game if the team made it a priority to get him open just a little more often? What is the logic here? Other teams gladly sag off this 42% shooter at 6.3 times a game but will pull out all the stops to stop him if he takes 1 more 3 a game? How does that work?

[Duffman100]

Unless he's killing his value on purpose.

I can't imagine that

a) He'd kill his value which would impact his contract and money.
b) in the heat of battle, he's intentionally missing shots.

It's not that hard to imagine, he did that this summer.
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That’s a long way from intentionally missing shots.