PG Bulls - Loss

[Ron Swanson]

Yeah we definitely need to add a defender to this roster and make it as **** as possible like we did for Bud in 2021. It would be nice if one time we got the innovative, smart, whiny coach like Nurse

Even with the juxtaposition of his Bucks career being sandwiched between two egregiously ill-equipped HC's, the lengths some of you guys go to project Bud as a doofus coach who simply lucked into success is weird as ****. Equally weird as the continued Nurse adulation/worship.

I mean Bud was a toe away from being **** canned in 2021 like he should have.

And Nurse was a Kawhi buzzer-beater bailing his ass out away from never getting past the 2nd round of the playoffs. Talented players making clutch plays tend to paper over a lot of shortcomings, unless you're Bud of course.

[milweskee]

With a decent coach the Bucks are spamming something the league cannot stop and we're not having conversations about reacting to another team's this and that.

Instead we're talking about ridiculous rebound disparity and bottom tier defense for 44 minutes a game and Brook Lopez guarding your best 3 pt shooter on repeat.

Posters here are trying to cope but this is obvious AF. 13-6 means absolute **** ******.

[James_Henry]

(first time poster; long time lurker)

A few random and non-technical observations:

If I'm not watching the Bucks, I watch the Bulls (big Ayo fan) and that dumpster fire has already been lit, burned out and thrown in the river. Every Bulls fan hates Donovan but Donovan has to play with what his front office/owner gives him. Last night he sat his two stars because they scored about 5 points combined in their last game and he threw out "the kids" against the Bucks. That allowed Vuc to think it was 2019-2021 again. I knew it was going to be a tough game for the Bucks because those kids are all young and athletic and craving playing time.

Caruso is a very good defensive player but I've seen him burned on defense. He did work over the summer, obviously a lot, on his 3 point shooting. The Bulls front office knows they can get something for Caruso but they do overvalue their players and expect a lot in a trade and then the trade doesn't happen. I don't necessarily think he's our savior.

The Bulls were quick on offense and defense; the Bucks consistently walked the ball up the floor. Gee, who's old and who's young?
I didn't expect Dame to disappear and Giannis was playing with foul trouble. The problem was rebounding - why weren't any Bucks under the basket? Don't pay attention to the 12 minutes Drummond was in; he outrebounds everyone.

Speaking of playing the kids, Marjon was not good last night. For everyone here who keeps saying, "Play him and let him get ready for the playoffs," and when that happens (last night) and he stinks, do you think he's going to improve that much with playing time? To be our fourth best player, as someone here claimed?

I know it's the popular thing to say around here, but Griff isn't going to get fired mid-season. For everyone who keeps idolizing Nurse, didn't Griffin sit right next to him for 5 years? You think Griff hasn't seen basketball before?

We're missing Crowder and now Pat; complain about them all you want but they are veterans who know where to be when (well, except for Pat's fly bys). The defense is a mess, true, but when it matters it seems the Bucks can play it. Maybe they simply can't for 48 minutes? Lopez has been great at the end of games, for example.

Every time I watch the Heat (I'm in the Heat's tv market), I hate Pat Riley for snatching Jaime Jaquez. Dude is going to be a stud and exactly what we need.

The reason why coaches don't foul when up 3 with 5 seconds to go is the not unlikely chance that the second free throw is missed deliberately and the rebound is tapped back in. With the way we were rebounding last night. ...

[Daver]

We are facing bottom feeding teams, most of which are missing their #1 and/or #2 best players and barely scraping by with a win. I think this loss was needed so the team doesn't feel comfortable playing with their food for three quarters every game.

Still pathetic and maddening in so many ways.

I think 13-6 is downright pathetic when you had the 5th easiest schedule in the NBA with that schedule should be 15-4

This is funny.

Whats so funny same thing was brought up on sirius fm starting lineup mentioned on the tnt show its not funny.If you asked this board b4 the season started what would the proje tion be with the bucks having the 5th easiest schedule what their record would be 19 games in bet 85% would of said 15-4 or in that area and mist would say they would look much much better than they have shown on both sides

[German Athens]

For the Giannis-Dame not meshing crowd. We are literally one game removed from them having their best showing as an in-sync pair against a contending team (yes, without their best player, but they still had the guy who may be the best Giannis defender in the league, and it’s more about the process than anything else).

Giannis screened and rolled for Dame and Khris a ton in that game, and he was able to use that for 33 points on 69% shooting against a team that’s often given him significant trouble.

I’m also frustrated that we don’t always play that way. I get it, but we can also acknowledge that there’s been progress over the course of the season. I think that’s pretty clear even if it’s slower than we’d like.

[milweskee]

I think 13-6 is downright pathetic when you had the 5th easiest schedule in the NBA with that schedule should be 15-4

This is funny.

Whats so funny same thing was brought up on sirius fm starting lineup mentioned on the tnt show its not funny.If you asked this board b4 the season started what would the proje tion be with the bucks having the 5th easiest schedule what their record would be 19 games in bet 85% would of said 15-4 or in that area and mist would say they would look much much better than they have shown on both sides

13-6 wth no identity and a 180 from the bread and butter we had the last 3 years (rebounding and D) is why 13-6 is leaving a bad taste. It's a mirage. We will get destroyed in the post season and this time even if we're 100% healthy.

[Profound23]

I think 13-6 is downright pathetic when you had the 5th easiest schedule in the NBA with that schedule should be 15-4

This is funny.

Whats so funny same thing was brought up on sirius fm starting lineup mentioned on the tnt show its not funny.If you asked this board b4 the season started what would the proje tion be with the bucks having the 5th easiest schedule what their record would be 19 games in bet 85% would of said 15-4 or in that area and mist would say they would look much much better than they have shown on both sides

It's not just the record.

It's facing teams like Wizards, Bulls, etc. Most of the times these teams are missing 1 or 2 of their best players. When we are winning, we are winning by the skin of our teeth and yes the intense 4th quarters are more dramatic but it gives me no hope for when we face really good teams with their full arsenal of weapons.

Going into play Chicago without Derozan or Lavine and we have Dame/Giannis/Khris/Lopez, we should be able to win that game with an average coach. Heck, when we finally faced a good team with all of their players they stomped us out for 98% of the game. I am not going to get into a debate of scheme/coach vs players....just want this fixed by playoff time.

[PG Graveyard]

Even with the juxtaposition of his Bucks career being sandwiched between two egregiously ill-equipped HC's, the lengths some of you guys go to project Bud as a doofus coach who simply lucked into success is weird as ****. Equally weird as the continued Nurse adulation/worship.

I mean Bud was a toe away from being **** canned in 2021 like he should have.

And Nurse was a Kawhi buzzer-beater bailing his ass out away from never getting past the 2nd round of the playoffs. Talented players making clutch plays tend to paper over a lot of shortcomings, unless you're Bud of course.

Yeah but that game would have gone overtime at least. I can't imagine there is anyone in the world that actually thinks Bud is a better coach than Nurse. That's insane.

[MickeyDavis]

It Takes Balls To Fire Your First Year Head Coach 19 games into the Season!

Isn’t it kind of ironic that when we finally did get a good draft pick it was wasted on Jabari Parker?

It's ironic that our title team only had one lottery pick on the roster and that was Brook.

[midranger]

It Takes Balls To Fire Your First Year Head Coach 19 games into the Season!

Isn’t it kind of ironic that when we finally did get a good draft pick it was wasted on Jabari Parker?

Don’t you think?

[JayMKE]

The fact is in years past the team would be wiping the floor with the Bulls with guys like Lindell Wigginton and Jordan Nwora, our starters didn't even have to play but now we got to fight for our life or get btfo with almost our full line up playing more minutes than they ever did under Bud.

[German Athens]

I think 13-6 is downright pathetic when you had the 5th easiest schedule in the NBA with that schedule should be 15-4

This is funny.

Whats so funny same thing was brought up on sirius fm starting lineup mentioned on the tnt show its not funny.If you asked this board b4 the season started what would the proje tion be with the bucks having the 5th easiest schedule what their record would be 19 games in bet 85% would of said 15-4 or in that area and mist would say they would look much much better than they have shown on both sides

I don’t disagree with the sentiment that we should be performing better at all. The part that I think is funny is just how you spelled it out.

That 13-6 is pathetic, but that we should ideally be a whole 2 games better than that. That’s funny to me.

I think regardless of whether we’re 13-6, 15-4, or 17-2, the process hasn’t been good, and that’s what matters to me. If we had a better record, my stance on that wouldn’t magically change. I don’t care so much about the results right now, but I’m very concerned about how we look.

[emunney]

(first time poster; long time lurker)

A few random and non-technical observations:

If I'm not watching the Bucks, I watch the Bulls (big Ayo fan) and that dumpster fire has already been lit, burned out and thrown in the river. Every Bulls fan hates Donovan but Donovan has to play with what his front office/owner gives him. Last night he sat his two stars because they scored about 5 points combined in their last game and he threw out "the kids" against the Bucks. That allowed Vuc to think it was 2019-2021 again. I knew it was going to be a tough game for the Bucks because those kids are all young and athletic and craving playing time.

Caruso is a very good defensive player but I've seen him burned on defense. He did work over the summer, obviously a lot, on his 3 point shooting. The Bulls front office knows they can get something for Caruso but they do overvalue their players and expect a lot in a trade and then the trade doesn't happen. I don't necessarily think he's our savior.

The Bulls were quick on offense and defense; the Bucks consistently walked the ball up the floor. Gee, who's old and who's young?
I didn't expect Dame to disappear and Giannis was playing with foul trouble. The problem was rebounding - why weren't any Bucks under the basket? Don't pay attention to the 12 minutes Drummond was in; he outrebounds everyone.

Speaking of playing the kids, Marjon was not good last night. For everyone here who keeps saying, "Play him and let him get ready for the playoffs," and when that happens (last night) and he stinks, do you think he's going to improve that much with playing time? To be our fourth best player, as someone here claimed?

I know it's the popular thing to say around here, but Griff isn't going to get fired mid-season. For everyone who keeps idolizing Nurse, didn't Griffin sit right next to him for 5 years? You think Griff hasn't seen basketball before?

We're missing Crowder and now Pat; complain about them all you want but they are veterans who know where to be when (well, except for Pat's fly bys). The defense is a mess, true, but when it matters it seems the Bucks can play it. Maybe they simply can't for 48 minutes? Lopez has been great at the end of games, for example.

Every time I watch the Heat (I'm in the Heat's tv market), I hate Pat Riley for snatching Jaime Jaquez. Dude is going to be a stud and exactly what we need.

The reason why coaches don't foul when up 3 with 5 seconds to go is the not unlikely chance that the second free throw is missed deliberately and the rebound is tapped back in. With the way we were rebounding last night. ...

Nice substantive first post. Welcome.

[emunney]

It Takes Balls To Fire Your First Year Head Coach 19 games into the Season!

Isn’t it kind of ironic that when we finally did get a good draft pick it was wasted on Jabari Parker?

Don’t you think?

A little TOO ironic

[Ron Swanson]

I mean Bud was a toe away from being **** canned in 2021 like he should have.

And Nurse was a Kawhi buzzer-beater bailing his ass out away from never getting past the 2nd round of the playoffs. Talented players making clutch plays tend to paper over a lot of shortcomings, unless you're Bud of course.

Yeah but that game would have gone overtime at least. I can't imagine there is anyone in the world that actually thinks Bud is a better coach than Nurse. That's insane.

One guy won 60-games and made the Conference Finals with this roster.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/ATL/2015.html

Hell, Nurse probably plays Horford and Kyle Korver 37 MPG and runs them both into the ground en route to 48-wins and a 1st round exit. "Insane", sure, whatever.

[paulpressey25]

It Takes Balls To Fire Your First Year Head Coach 19 games into the Season!

Isn’t it kind of ironic that when we finally did get a good draft pick it was wasted on Jabari Parker?

Share some of the photos you were able to snap of the Billboard going up.

SOB Easter egg: A Clear Channel salesman wanted to sell us the billboard, but later the Bucks got to them, and vetoed the sale. Kurty had the backup deal in place with Lamar. Lamar was also pressured, but their rep held firm to the contract, to his credit. However, Lamar knew that the process of putting up the billboard would be controversial.

Lamar told us the day it would go up, so Engel was supposed to be there to video it for us. But knowing how hot the issue was, Lamar workers were sent out a couple days early, without telling us. If I recall, Engel ran down there and they refused to let him record any of it.

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[PG Graveyard]

And Nurse was a Kawhi buzzer-beater bailing his ass out away from never getting past the 2nd round of the playoffs. Talented players making clutch plays tend to paper over a lot of shortcomings, unless you're Bud of course.

Yeah but that game would have gone overtime at least. I can't imagine there is anyone in the world that actually thinks Bud is a better coach than Nurse. That's insane.

One guy won 60-games and made the Conference Finals with this roster.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/ATL/2015.html

Hell, Nurse probably plays Horford and Kyle Korver 37 MPG and runs them both into the ground en route to 48-wins and a 1st round exit. "Insane", sure, whatever.

Ok maybe you are the only person in the world that thinks Bud is better than Nurse. LOL. Considering Nurse pantsed Bud when they met in the playoffs as an underdog I will take Nurse.

[sidney lanier]

(first time poster; long time lurker)

A few random and non-technical observations:

If I'm not watching the Bucks, I watch the Bulls (big Ayo fan) and that dumpster fire has already been lit, burned out and thrown in the river. Every Bulls fan hates Donovan but Donovan has to play with what his front office/owner gives him. Last night he sat his two stars because they scored about 5 points combined in their last game and he threw out "the kids" against the Bucks. That allowed Vuc to think it was 2019-2021 again. I knew it was going to be a tough game for the Bucks because those kids are all young and athletic and craving playing time.

Caruso is a very good defensive player but I've seen him burned on defense. He did work over the summer, obviously a lot, on his 3 point shooting. The Bulls front office knows they can get something for Caruso but they do overvalue their players and expect a lot in a trade and then the trade doesn't happen. I don't necessarily think he's our savior.

The Bulls were quick on offense and defense; the Bucks consistently walked the ball up the floor. Gee, who's old and who's young?
I didn't expect Dame to disappear and Giannis was playing with foul trouble. The problem was rebounding - why weren't any Bucks under the basket? Don't pay attention to the 12 minutes Drummond was in; he outrebounds everyone.

Speaking of playing the kids, Marjon was not good last night. For everyone here who keeps saying, "Play him and let him get ready for the playoffs," and when that happens (last night) and he stinks, do you think he's going to improve that much with playing time? To be our fourth best player, as someone here claimed?

I know it's the popular thing to say around here, but Griff isn't going to get fired mid-season. For everyone who keeps idolizing Nurse, didn't Griffin sit right next to him for 5 years? You think Griff hasn't seen basketball before?

We're missing Crowder and now Pat; complain about them all you want but they are veterans who know where to be when (well, except for Pat's fly bys). The defense is a mess, true, but when it matters it seems the Bucks can play it. Maybe they simply can't for 48 minutes? Lopez has been great at the end of games, for example.

Every time I watch the Heat (I'm in the Heat's tv market), I hate Pat Riley for snatching Jaime Jaquez. Dude is going to be a stud and exactly what we need.

The reason why coaches don't foul when up 3 with 5 seconds to go is the not unlikely chance that the second free throw is missed deliberately and the rebound is tapped back in. With the way we were rebounding last night. ...

Welcome. Excellent points all, except for the bit about hating Pat Riley for snatching Jaime Jaquez. In my opinion you don't need a reason to hate Pat Riley.

[Prez]

Outside of Griffin being a tire fire of a coach, MarJon looking like a bust is so incredibly disappointing. Thought there was a real chance he was a nice 20-25 mpg 3&D wing this year, and he just looks like a bum. Thankfully Dre still looks like there’s a special role player there if they just gave him the reps to develop.

[VooDoo7]

It Takes Balls To Fire Your First Year Head Coach 19 games into the Season!

Isn’t it kind of ironic that when we finally did get a good draft pick it was wasted on Jabari Parker?

Share some of the photos you were able to snap of the Billboard going up.

SOB Easter egg: A Clear Channel salesman wanted to sell us the billboard, but later the Bucks got to them, and vetoed the sale. Kurty had the backup deal in place with Lamar. Lamar was also pressured, but their rep held firm to the contract, to his credit. However, Lamar knew that the process of putting up the billboard would be controversial.

Lamar told us the day it would go up, so Engel was supposed to be there to video it for us. But knowing how hot the issue was, Lamar workers were sent out a couple days early, without telling us. If I recall, Engel ran down there and they refused to let him record any of it.

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I love that we've won a title since then and are legit contenders every year as long as we have Giannis. But I look back on those days very fondly. Everything that went down with SOB/RealGM was absolutely magical, and extremely entertaining.