So how much longer til we admit Klay is cooked?

[JN61]

How about 15ppg on 40% shooting?

He just doesn't play a lot of minutes he is scoring at decent rate with proper play time.

Almost any NBA player can score with proper playing time and touches, the question is how efficient they'd be and that's the point. Klay's efficiency is waning which obviously hurts his team's chances to win. Unless you think giving him 5-7 more shots a game is advantageous at this point in his career.

Yes? He is scoring at league average efficiency. He is just fine.

[moderndarwin]

Whats really pathetic is that he’s (Klay) still somehow a better defender than Kuminga. That Ninja man child has no timing or feet positioning knowledge on defense. Make some good rah rah plays but he’s always getting cooked and Kerr finally realizing it. Been putting him on the scrubs and it’s working out better.

Klay has been bad because he’s not getting good quality shots. That’s the difference. For wtv reason the offense isn’t what it used to be and he rarely gets separation these days for shots like he used to off screens and pin downs. Maybe the league has evolved maybe he’s slower hard to say exactly probably a combo of factors.

So he’s simply taking tougher shots. Once he warms up to a game he does have a few good moments here and there. And now without gp2 there’s really no good options for him to play less mins

[Godymas]

Klay and Draymond need to get their egos checked so bad by the Warriors organization, it's not even funny

Surely Steph has to be watching the way they play and thinking that something's gotta give here

They had to have had a serious conversation at some point by now because the losing is really piling on

[FarBeyondDriven]

I think this is Klay's last season and the Warriors aren't panicking about the regular season because they know he's still a capable veteran that fits their system perfectly and will be good for helping them win playoff series. All of this consternation is really just the usual noise the Warriors have had to deal with for a decade. There's always something the media and detractors grasp onto to try and dull their shine. Steph's ankles, Kerr's health, no center, injuries, cap space, KD, Draymond, age, Poole, and now Klay. Their focus is on being healthy and making deep playoff runs with an outside chance to make the Finals and this has been the end result, despite the noise, for a decade straight. You would think people would get wise to this and stop questioning them though I get it since they are collectively much older. If Kerr incorporated their substantial and talented youth more effectively it'd go a long way towards keeping everyone healthy and more efficient.

[Eagle4]

He just doesn't play a lot of minutes he is scoring at decent rate with proper play time.

Almost any NBA player can score with proper playing time and touches, the question is how efficient they'd be and that's the point. Klay's efficiency is waning which obviously hurts his team's chances to win. Unless you think giving him 5-7 more shots a game is advantageous at this point in his career.

Yes? He is scoring at league average efficiency. He is just fine.

No the league average is 56.5%, Klay is at 54% TS so you're wrong. Lol keep being delusional, Klay is cooked.

[tamaraw08]

He just doesn't play a lot of minutes he is scoring at decent rate with proper play time.

Almost any NBA player can score with proper playing time and touches, the question is how efficient they'd be and that's the point. Klay's efficiency is waning which obviously hurts his team's chances to win. Unless you think giving him 5-7 more shots a game is advantageous at this point in his career.

Yes? He is scoring at league average efficiency. He is just fine.

Okay but is his current salary justify his league Average efficiency?
Also , how is his defense lately?
I’m asking because I haven’t watched his games the past month

[tamaraw08]

Klay and Draymond need to get their egos checked so bad by the Warriors organization, it's not even funny

Surely Steph has to be watching the way they play and thinking that something's gotta give here

They had to have had a serious conversation at some point by now because the losing is really piling on

Or Steph’s strong friendship is making him more subjective and biased and he’s just hoping Kuminga and Moody would vastly improve and/or they can trade Wiggins and picks for a guy like Anunoby

[Sane]

Come on. He's old and wants a new contract. Like most old teams and players, he will protect his health mostly for the first half of the season and then go up a gear in the second half. The great ones have a 3rd playoff gear they can get into after that.

I wouldn't rely on him too much or worry too much. He'll be a very useful 3&D playoff rotation player by the end of the season - which is all they should ask of him. Wiggins, Moody and Kuminga should be doing the heavy lifting with paint points.

[Laimbeer]

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Why would any NBA player GAF what Barkley says?

[zero rings]

I think this is Klay's last season and the Warriors aren't panicking about the regular season because they know he's still a capable veteran that fits their system perfectly and will be good for helping them win playoff series. All of this consternation is really just the usual noise the Warriors have had to deal with for a decade. There's always something the media and detractors grasp onto to try and dull their shine. Steph's ankles, Kerr's health, no center, injuries, cap space, KD, Draymond, age, Poole, and now Klay. Their focus is on being healthy and making deep playoff runs with an outside chance to make the Finals and this has been the end result, despite the noise, for a decade straight. You would think people would get wise to this and stop questioning them though I get it since they are collectively much older. If Kerr incorporated their substantial and talented youth more effectively it'd go a long way towards keeping everyone healthy and more efficient.

Klay, Wiggins, and Draymond have been really bad and their starters are performing about as poorly as the Detroit Pistons’ starters.

I think it’s a little more than detractors trying to dull their shine.

[xdrta+]

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Why would any NBA player GAF what Barkley says?

Or anyone else.

[twolves31]

He isn't as good as he used to be, it happens. He can still contribute to a teams success. Does the op want him to retire or get relegated to a tanking team like the Pistons? He's no longer a max player, but he can help Golden State.

[Laimbeer]

My guess is he signs a Draymond-type contract.

[og15]

He just doesn't play a lot of minutes he is scoring at decent rate with proper play time.

Almost any NBA player can score with proper playing time and touches, the question is how efficient they'd be and that's the point. Klay's efficiency is waning which obviously hurts his team's chances to win. Unless you think giving him 5-7 more shots a game is advantageous at this point in his career.

Yes? He is scoring at league average efficiency. He is just fine.

Even if he was at league average, is Klay good enough at other things these days to be valuable enough for a team at just league average? Not really.

Of course he's actually below league average, he's also at a career low on eFG, career low 3PT%, 2nd worst TS%, lowest 2PT% since 13-14. If he doesn't pick it up, his production is NOWHERE near enough for the role the team seems to want him to occupy.

Of course there's a lot of season left, and that will determine things.

[JN61]

Almost any NBA player can score with proper playing time and touches, the question is how efficient they'd be and that's the point. Klay's efficiency is waning which obviously hurts his team's chances to win. Unless you think giving him 5-7 more shots a game is advantageous at this point in his career.

Yes? He is scoring at league average efficiency. He is just fine.

No the league average is 56.5%, Klay is at 54% TS so you're wrong. Lol keep being delusional, Klay is cooked.

2% difference is irrelevant early in season. Any game and he might be above the % and any game and he might be bellow it. I also love the fact that you lowered Thompson's averages to prove your cherry picking point.

[JN61]

Almost any NBA player can score with proper playing time and touches, the question is how efficient they'd be and that's the point. Klay's efficiency is waning which obviously hurts his team's chances to win. Unless you think giving him 5-7 more shots a game is advantageous at this point in his career.

Yes? He is scoring at league average efficiency. He is just fine.

Okay but is his current salary justify his league Average efficiency?
Also , how is his defense lately?
I’m asking because I haven’t watched his games the past month

How is Curry's defense as of late? How is Green's offense and defense as of late? None of these old players are the same they were during their championship era. And we see the reflection of this in early season failures Warriors have had. This context in mind people just find another scapegoat to blame failures on 2/3rd option rather than see what Curry has failed to provide this season. Curry has been absolutely awful defensive blackhole this season, no amounts of blaming other players for their average offense will remove this huge issue Warriors have had especially in today's guard heavy offenses, which Curry is unable to guard in any way or manner. Mix in shared play time CP0 and you have recipe for disaster.

I don't think any of the old big 3 is deserving their salaries currently but that's just another subject of paying big money to has been stars in their mid 30s. As far as I'm concerned there has been handful of players in league history deserving such money such late into their career like Lebron and Kareem.

[Eagle4]

Yes? He is scoring at league average efficiency. He is just fine.

No the league average is 56.5%, Klay is at 54% TS so you're wrong. Lol keep being delusional, Klay is cooked.

2% difference is irrelevant early in season. Any game and he might be above the % and any game and he might be bellow it. I also love the fact that you lowered Thompson's averages to prove your cherry picking point.

He's at 54.5% TS which is under league efficiency. You stated he was at league efficiency, you were false.
Also his efficiency can also plummet as the season goes on and potential injuries creep in.

[JN61]

No the league average is 56.5%, Klay is at 54% TS so you're wrong. Lol keep being delusional, Klay is cooked.

2% difference is irrelevant early in season. Any game and he might be above the % and any game and he might be bellow it. I also love the fact that you lowered Thompson's averages to prove your cherry picking point.

He's at 54.5% TS which is under league efficiency. You stated he was at league efficiency, you were false.
Also his efficiency can also plummet as the season goes on and potential injuries creep in.

As stated he is at the league average efficiency.

[Eagle4]

2% difference is irrelevant early in season. Any game and he might be above the % and any game and he might be bellow it. I also love the fact that you lowered Thompson's averages to prove your cherry picking point.

He's at 54.5% TS which is under league efficiency. You stated he was at league efficiency, you were false.
Also his efficiency can also plummet as the season goes on and potential injuries creep in.

As stated he is at the league average efficiency.

Just because you 'state' something, doesn't make it true.

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/nba-league-average-ts-by-year-last-10-years

Now admit you're wrong and move on.

[Chuck Everett]

These days are never coming back unfortunately.