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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#361 » by the_process » Sun Dec 3, 2023 2:03 am

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the_process wrote:IND gets D Robinson, D Melton, and 27 MIA 1st lotto protected
MIA gets Harris and TJ McConnell
PHI gets Hield and Lowry


You could get Buddy Hield a hell of a lot easier than that.


I'm not sure about that. And in any case, Harris and Melton is not a huge price to pay.
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Post#362 » by the_process » Sun Dec 3, 2023 2:31 am

I saw someone on the trade board propose Tobias straight up for LaVine.

I don't want LaVine, but at that price I think you have to say yes.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#363 » by mjkvol » Sun Dec 3, 2023 2:47 am

the_process wrote:I saw someone on the trade board propose Tobias straight up for LaVine.

I don't want LaVine, but at that price I think you have to say yes.


No you don't. Three years ago, yes, but now, no way.

Chicago is going to have to pay someone to take that albatross of a contract.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#364 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Sun Dec 3, 2023 2:55 am

We are on the verge of being free from Tobias Harris. There is absolutely no way in hell we should do that trade. Morey and Elton Brand should be fired immediately if we do that trade.

Now... If Chicago wants to throw in Patrick Williams and an unprotected first round pick next year, then yeah, I would do the trade.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#365 » by zaz102 » Sun Dec 3, 2023 5:05 pm

If we trade Morris and draft picks for OG or Markkanen, would you trade Tobi for Klay?
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#366 » by PhillyNj » Sun Dec 3, 2023 8:37 pm

zaz102 wrote:If we trade Morris and draft picks for OG or Markkanen, would you trade Tobi for Klay?

Kay. Is finished. Don’t see anyone trading for him now.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#367 » by PhillyFan11 » Sun Dec 3, 2023 9:29 pm

the_process wrote:
PhillyFan11 wrote:
the_process wrote:IND gets D Robinson, D Melton, and 27 MIA 1st lotto protected
MIA gets Harris and TJ McConnell
PHI gets Hield and Lowry


You could get Buddy Hield a hell of a lot easier than that.


I'm not sure about that. And in any case, Harris and Melton is not a huge price to pay.


Lol what kind of weird internet grudge are you holding? Not sure Hield is even better than Melton alone. He’s 3” taller and shoots 3’s at like .01-.03 % better, that’s about it. I don’t mind getting Hield in general, but we need Melton AND Hield. Swapping Hield for Melton doesn’t improve the team.
You can’t play Lowry with Maxey and it’s debatable at this stage in his career if Lowry is even a significant upgrade to Pat Bev.
And you traded Tobi with no replacement for no apparent reason.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#368 » by phifans » Mon Dec 4, 2023 2:46 am

Phi : Harris + Martin + 1st for Brogden + Miles Bridges
Okc : Kenrich Williams + Micic +1st for Harris
Cha : Bridges for Kenrich + Martin + 1st form phi
Por : Brogden for Micic + 1st from okc
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#369 » by the_process » Mon Dec 4, 2023 5:09 am

phifans wrote:Phi : Harris + Martin + 1st for Brogden + Miles Bridges
Okc : Kenrich Williams + Micic +1st for Harris
Cha : Bridges for Kenrich + Martin + 1st form phi
Por : Brogden for Micic + 1st from okc


Just do a straight up deal with OKC if they are willing to start with that.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#370 » by youngcrev » Mon Dec 4, 2023 1:24 pm

Simple, 2 team trade

Tobias Harris, Marcus Morris, both 1sts from the LAC deals, top-8 protected 2030 1st (becomes a 2nd if not conveyed)
For
Pascal Siakam and Gary Trent Jr

It makes logical sense that Tobias would go to a 3rd team, but they seem to like to remain competitive. Clearly a talent downgrade for them, but arguably a better fit in that lineup, particularly with them making Barnes the focus of their team.

Also, I do think OG makes more sense for the Sixers, but also makes more sense for the Raptors from a fit/timeline perspective, so I could see him being the one they choose to keep.

Pascal provides Pascal things. Gary Trent Jr's opinions on Nurse have likely cooled after spending his contract year on the bench, and I think he'd slot into the starting SG role to provide a little more size and shooting (to balance out some of the shooting lost from Harris to Pascal) with Melton going back to a 6th man role.

G Tyrese Maxey
G Gary Trent Jr
F Nic Batum
F Pascal Siakam
C Joel Embiid
Melton, Oubre, Reed, Covington, Pat Bev

In the off-season you'd have bird rights to retain guys, aside from Oubre. Might be able to offer some form of the MLE to retain him if he doesn't price himself out.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#371 » by 76ciology » Mon Dec 4, 2023 1:36 pm

youngcrev wrote:Simple, 2 team trade

Tobias Harris, Marcus Morris, both 1sts from the LAC deals, top-8 protected 2030 1st (becomes a 2nd if not conveyed)
For
Pascal Siakam and Gary Trent Jr

It makes logical sense that Tobias would go to a 3rd team, but they seem to like to remain competitive. Clearly a talent downgrade for them, but arguably a better fit in that lineup, particularly with them making Barnes the focus of their team.

Also, I do think OG makes more sense for the Sixers, but also makes more sense for the Raptors from a fit/timeline perspective, so I could see him being the one they choose to keep.

Pascal provides Pascal things. Gary Trent Jr's opinions on Nurse have likely cooled after spending his contract year on the bench, and I think he'd slot into the starting SG role to provide a little more size and shooting (to balance out some of the shooting lost from Harris to Pascal) with Melton going back to a 6th man role.

G Tyrese Maxey
G Gary Trent Jr
F Nic Batum
F Pascal Siakam
C Joel Embiid
Melton, Oubre, Reed, Covington, Pat Bev

In the off-season you'd have bird rights to retain guys, aside from Oubre. Might be able to offer some form of the MLE to retain him if he doesn't price himself out.


I’ve been flip flopping on OG and Siakam. Currently I like Siakam more. After what ive seen from maxey and without Jojo.

I’d do a Tobi and pick(s) for Siakam. Isnt Siakam a UFA by end of the season? Seems like there wont be any trade unless he agreed for an extension.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#372 » by youngcrev » Mon Dec 4, 2023 1:44 pm

76ciology wrote:
youngcrev wrote:Simple, 2 team trade

Tobias Harris, Marcus Morris, both 1sts from the LAC deals, top-8 protected 2030 1st (becomes a 2nd if not conveyed)
For
Pascal Siakam and Gary Trent Jr

It makes logical sense that Tobias would go to a 3rd team, but they seem to like to remain competitive. Clearly a talent downgrade for them, but arguably a better fit in that lineup, particularly with them making Barnes the focus of their team.

Also, I do think OG makes more sense for the Sixers, but also makes more sense for the Raptors from a fit/timeline perspective, so I could see him being the one they choose to keep.

Pascal provides Pascal things. Gary Trent Jr's opinions on Nurse have likely cooled after spending his contract year on the bench, and I think he'd slot into the starting SG role to provide a little more size and shooting (to balance out some of the shooting lost from Harris to Pascal) with Melton going back to a 6th man role.

G Tyrese Maxey
G Gary Trent Jr
F Nic Batum
F Pascal Siakam
C Joel Embiid
Melton, Oubre, Reed, Covington, Pat Bev

In the off-season you'd have bird rights to retain guys, aside from Oubre. Might be able to offer some form of the MLE to retain him if he doesn't price himself out.


I’ve been flip flopping on OG and Siakam. Currently I like Siakam more. After what ive seen from maxey and without Jojo.

I’d do a Tobi and pick(s) for Siakam. Isnt Siakam a UFA by end of the season? Seems like there wont be any trade unless he agreed for an extension.


Yes, he's an UFA this off-season, which is likely the only thing lowering his value to a gettable level.

OG is clearly a more seamless fit. I kinda just think Toronto is more likely to want to keep him themselves due to age/fit with Barnes.

I know we talk about both, but I don't imagine Toronto will actually look to deal both. Seems more likely they choose which one they want to pay and put the other on the market. Although with Massai, maybe he doesn't put either out there for anything reasonable.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#373 » by PhillyFan11 » Mon Dec 4, 2023 5:13 pm

Does anybody think there would be media backlash/distraction if the Sixers traded for Bridges? Seems like his scumbaggery has mostly gone under the radar, but I’m sure that has a lot to do with him playing on an irrelevant team in a non major market. Would him being traded here cause any problems in the locker room? Because if not he’s a pretty great for what we need and probably wouldn’t cost a ton given that it’s already been reported that he won’t be returning to Charolette.
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Post#374 » by zaz102 » Mon Dec 4, 2023 5:28 pm

PhillyFan11 wrote:Does anybody think there would be media backlash/distraction if the Sixers traded for Bridges? Seems like his scumbaggery has mostly gone under the radar, but I’m sure that has a lot to do with him playing on an irrelevant team in a non major market. Would him being traded here cause any problems in the locker room? Because if not he’s a pretty great for what we need and probably wouldn’t cost a ton given that it’s already been reported that he won’t be returning to Charolette.
How could there not be media backlash? Either have to go head on with it like Vick or just don't do it.
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Post#375 » by the_process » Mon Dec 4, 2023 5:38 pm

youngcrev wrote:Simple, 2 team trade

Tobias Harris, Marcus Morris, both 1sts from the LAC deals, top-8 protected 2030 1st (becomes a 2nd if not conveyed)
For
Pascal Siakam and Gary Trent Jr

It makes logical sense that Tobias would go to a 3rd team, but they seem to like to remain competitive. Clearly a talent downgrade for them, but arguably a better fit in that lineup, particularly with them making Barnes the focus of their team.

Also, I do think OG makes more sense for the Sixers, but also makes more sense for the Raptors from a fit/timeline perspective, so I could see him being the one they choose to keep.

Pascal provides Pascal things. Gary Trent Jr's opinions on Nurse have likely cooled after spending his contract year on the bench, and I think he'd slot into the starting SG role to provide a little more size and shooting (to balance out some of the shooting lost from Harris to Pascal) with Melton going back to a 6th man role.

G Tyrese Maxey
G Gary Trent Jr
F Nic Batum
F Pascal Siakam
C Joel Embiid
Melton, Oubre, Reed, Covington, Pat Bev

In the off-season you'd have bird rights to retain guys, aside from Oubre. Might be able to offer some form of the MLE to retain him if he doesn't price himself out.


I'd strongly prefer to wait and see who might shake free by the deadline, or failing that, who 5 1sts can get me on draft night. Siakam to me feels like Horford 2.0. He's just such a clunky fit with Jo and you're going to have max him out.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#376 » by youngcrev » Mon Dec 4, 2023 5:49 pm

the_process wrote:I'd strongly prefer to wait and see who might shake free by the deadline, or failing that, who 5 1sts can get me on draft night. Siakam to me feels like Horford 2.0. He's just such a clunky fit with Jo and you're going to have max him out.


That's fine. Not sure who that could even be with so many teams seemingly in the mix.

Not sure I see the Horford comparison. Feels closer to the Ben/Joel fit if anything, except Pascal is at least willing to shoot.
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Post#377 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Mon Dec 4, 2023 6:16 pm

I've been thinking about Bridges a lot lately. We can probably get him for next to nothing right now. The city did do this some years ago with Michael Vick. I don't see the harm in doing it again. Obviously what he did is inexcusable, but people can and do change. It does happen. I'm going to go ahead and say that I'm not opposed to bringing him to Philly if that's what we decide to do.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#378 » by phillynative » Mon Dec 4, 2023 6:18 pm

PhillyFan11 wrote:Does anybody think there would be media backlash/distraction if the Sixers traded for Bridges? Seems like his scumbaggery has mostly gone under the radar, but I’m sure that has a lot to do with him playing on an irrelevant team in a non major market. Would him being traded here cause any problems in the locker room? Because if not he’s a pretty great for what we need and probably wouldn’t cost a ton given that it’s already been reported that he won’t be returning to Charolette.



I always thought the evil Bridges would be a good fit here. He has the type of athleticism and shot making ability that could elevate the sixers to another level in the playoffs. Hes not exactly an on the ball player but he can put the ball on the floor and is an underrated passer.He also has that -don't back down mentality -the sixers could use on the floor when Maxey and Embiid are struggling.

You could make the case that hes not that much better than Tobias but he's a better fit. More willing 3pt shooter , explosive which is what you need around slow Embiid and undersized Maxey. He's also younger and should cost less in the offseason.

Now that Elton Brand (the good guy lover) isn't at the helm their may be less qualms about his questionable character. Definitely would still be controversial as he probably shouldn't even be in the NBA. Harris who's a billionaire with huge connections probably couldn't withstand that type of backlash though.
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Post#379 » by phillynative » Mon Dec 4, 2023 6:28 pm

We also wouldn't have to worry about Bridges getting blocked on a fastbreak 3 times in a close game in the fourth quarter. He would have either postered someone or got fouled .
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 

Post#380 » by the_process » Mon Dec 4, 2023 7:26 pm

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youngcrev wrote:I shot down the idea of him being available this summer, but the Warriors are off to a slow start, as has Wiggins in particular. He'd make a TON of sense here and is locked into a contract, unlike OG. He's not quite OG level on defense, but he's still a high end wing defender, and has more of a bag on the other end.

As I said with Klay, we're a bad direct trade fit with the Warriors, but if there's a 3 way to be had with a seller, I'd love to get Embiid his college buddy.

Was thinking something with Pascal to the Warriors. I think that would probably require CP3's involvement for salary, so not sure I love the overall impact on GSW. I'm assuming he gets bought out by the Raptors in such a scenario.

Warriors get Siakam, Trent Jr, KJ Martin
Raptors get CP3, Korkmaz, Morris, Kuminga, picks
Sixers get Wiggins

(Picks would come from both Warriors and Sixers)


Warriors probably need to cut payroll if they intend on bringing back Klay. They are knee deep in the luxury tax. They could cut CP3 and save 30 mil but Klay will probably demand 25-30 mil minimum which will have them treading near that 2nd apron.

Expirings and picks for Wiggins should be a dream come true for their situation unless they value Wiggins over Klay


I'd like to revisit this idea.

GSW gets Harris, Melton, 26 OKC 1st, and 24 ORL 2nd
ORL gets House, 24 NYK 2nd, and 27 PHI 2nd
PHI gets Paul and Wiggins

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