Siakam is shooting the 3 at a historically bad rate, and has a chance to be one of the worst in NBA history.

[OakleyDokely]

This thread : Siakam having historically terrible 3p shooting
The usual suspects : Yeah but imagine how high his TS% would be if he wasn't, no no guys trust, this is actually a positive.

My god you people are delusional.

Delusional is evaluating a players performance based on one stat.

[YogurtProducer]

His overall efficiency isn't far off? This is the worst season of his career, unless you want to nitpick and use his rookie year as the only one worse. Just look at his stats, virtually everything is trending in the wrong direction. FTr down, DRB% down, AST% down, BL% WAY down, TOV% up, WS/48 way down, VORP and all BPM stats WAY down, TS% way down, PER way down, FT% down.

FTR down - outside 2022-23 at .361, his current FTr (.316) would be the 3rd highest of his career.

DRB% down - Outside 2021-22, and 2022-23, in which he played a lot of small ball C and therefore increases his rebounding opportunities, his current rate (17.9%) is in line with his career average of 17.5%-18.6% outside his rookie year (16%) or the small ball C years (20%).

AST% down - Pretty much directly coorelated to his increase of his FG attempts being assisted (30ish% last 2 year, up to 49% this year). Pretty much a result of a changed role where he initiates less and finishes more. Hard to have the same AST% when your role changes from starting a play to ending it.

BL% down - Yep. But we are talking a difference of 0.8% here. Aka one good game away from being right back in line with career averages.

TOV% up - Career average of 11.2%, and currently sitting at 12.6%. That is literally 3-4 less turnovers over the span of the entire season thus far.

WS/48 way down - this is a team cumulative stats, and as far as I know extremely box score based. It is pretty much a catch all of the above ^ items.

VORP / BPM - again, correct me if I am wrong, but see WS/48 above.

TS% way down- way down? really? Outside of his rookie and championship year, it has been between 54.7-56.5% his entire career. He is at 54.4% despite the previously mentioned horrible 3 point shooting. The fact it is that high despite shooting this bad is actually surprising to me.

PER - come on lmao

FT% - A career 77% shooter shooting 75% from the line.

Can I just go out on a limb here and say there is a lot of key context and/or exaggeration going on?

Ah yes, context now conveniently matters to you.

All the stats I listed, are all down from last year.

You seem to lack a fundamental grasp about what most of these stats actually are calculating, and pretty confidently coming up with excuses for each one.

AST% - Scotties 2/3's have increased by 2 and 3% respectively, yet his AST% has jumped 4% from last year. Siakams USG% is down a whopping 1.3% so yeah, I hardly doubt it's his shots being assisted on making a difference.

BL% - I'm sorry, one good game? He's averaging 0.2 BPG, he averaged 0.5 last year, but sure 1 good game might help with that. All that would require is him making 6 blocks in a game. Good thing only 14 players have done it this season, and every single one of them that has, is averaging close to 2 a game this year.

TOV% - No, that would be 6.5 TOs and that equates to 12.3% of his total turnovers this season. So yeah, if a player managed 12% less turnovers, that would be good.

WS/48 - It is way more complex, WS/48 requires multiple calculations to get DWS and OWS, combined, and then adjusted per 48.

TS% - Yes a 2.1% drop is massive, as is a 2.1% gain. His career average is 56.6%, I seem to recall you harping on Scotties TS% quite a bit, but now it is an exaggeration, that's convenient.

PER - Take it or leave it, it is still a measurable stat at which he is declining.

AST % - you are right here - I was confusing this with a per 100 stat which would be assists per 100 possessions. The change here then is his usage overall is down. It is completely reasonable that if his usage is down his ast % goes down as well.

I hardly doubt it's his shots being assisted on making a difference. - It actually 100% does. Siakam is touching the ball less, and when he does he is getting it at the end of plays (from Jak, or Scottie for example) and shooting it. This has boosted up his assisted makes % (from 31% to 49%, and probably why he is more efficient outside of shooting 3's), but also is why his ast % has dropped. He is still getting shots but getting them in different ways. It is hard to get assists when the ball is taken out of your hands.

TLDR - the drop is AST % is almost entirely related to change in role and has nothing to do with him playing worse.

BL% - yeah, one good game as blocks are incredibly noisy (and not to mention, really not indicative of anything either or else Whiteside would be a 5 time DPOY). Even in 2020 when Siakam averaged 0.9BPG he had 25 of his 60 games where he did not have a block. Blocks are the kind of thing where all it takes is a three game stretch where you get 6 or 7 blocks and boom, back at a 0.5/0.6 per game average and right in line with career averages.

TO% - ok, lets use 6.5 turnovers then. We are talking about 6 turnovers over a 20 game span. Just stop for a minute and realize how little that is and how much a small sample can affect that.

PER - it is measurable as in you are doubling counting stats here to make the list look longer than it is. PER is also a classic casual stat that also means nothing as it often swing towards bigs, which is probably why Siakam has dropped as he is no longer grabbing rebounds that Poeltl now gets.

Like it is un-debateable that things have dropped a bit here, but you are acting like these are waaaaaaay bigger things than they really are. Most can be summed up to small sample, and the rest have reasonable explantions (like playing with a real center might affect rebounds and blocks).

[Scase]

This thread : Siakam having historically terrible 3p shooting
The usual suspects : Yeah but imagine how high his TS% would be if he wasn't, no no guys trust, this is actually a positive.

My god you people are delusional.

Delusional is evaluating a players performance based on one stat.

Delusional is failing to understand that the thread isn't about evaluating a players performance based on one stat.
Delusional is reading a thread titled :

Siakam is shooting the 3 at a historically bad rate, and has a chance to be one of the worst in NBA history.

And then (presumably) reading the entire OP that opens up with

So, Siakams 3p shooting woes are widely known, but I think what a lot of people don't understand is just HOW bad it actually is. So, let's break it down.

And then multiple paragraphs discussing nothing but 3 point shooting, and then thinking it is about the players performance overall.

Delusional is coming into a thread about 3 point shooting and talking about how despite being horrendous at 3 pointers, "his overall efficiency isn't far off from what he's posted over the last couple years." ignoring that this is the most inefficient season of his career.

[OakleyDokely]

This thread : Siakam having historically terrible 3p shooting
The usual suspects : Yeah but imagine how high his TS% would be if he wasn't, no no guys trust, this is actually a positive.

My god you people are delusional.

Delusional is evaluating a players performance based on one stat.

Delusional is failing to understand that the thread isn't about evaluating a players performance based on one stat.
Delusional is reading a thread titled :

Siakam is shooting the 3 at a historically bad rate, and has a chance to be one of the worst in NBA history.

And then (presumably) reading the entire OP that opens up with

So, Siakams 3p shooting woes are widely known, but I think what a lot of people don't understand is just HOW bad it actually is. So, let's break it down.

And then multiple paragraphs discussing nothing but 3 point shooting, and then thinking it is about the players performance overall.

Delusional is coming into a thread about 3 point shooting and talking about how despite being horrendous at 3 pointers, "his overall efficiency isn't far off from what he's posted over the last couple years." ignoring that this is the most inefficient season of his career.

you really think you need to tell us that 19% from 3 is bad?

Thanks tips.

[YogurtProducer]

And then multiple paragraphs discussing nothing but 3 point shooting, and then thinking it is about the players performance overall.

Delusional is coming into a thread about 3 point shooting and talking about how despite being horrendous at 3 pointers, "his overall efficiency isn't far off from what he's posted over the last couple years." ignoring that this is the most inefficient season of his career.

Nope. Nope nope nope nope nope.

Oakley made one comment that the 3 is not a big part of his game and his decrease in % has not effected his overall efficiency. That was the first post that brought up anything other than 3 point shooting.

However, multiple paragraphs dragging on Siakam did follow.. by... you!

You make it sound like it's fallen off a cliff. His 3PAr is going up, the last 3 years .181 >.219 >.251.

His overall efficiency isn't far off? This is the worst season of his career, unless you want to nitpick and use his rookie year as the only one worse. Just look at his stats, virtually everything is trending in the wrong direction. FTr down, DRB% down, AST% down, BL% WAY down, TOV% up, WS/48 way down, VORP and all BPM stats WAY down, TS% way down, PER way down, FT% down.

Hell, one of the only things that has gone up this year is his FG% in the 3-10ft range, everything else is either sideways or down.

This isn't reading tea leaves, they are objective numbers.

You misunderstood Oakley's comments that his scoring efficiency and YOU got this thread off-topic. Don't try and alter history and play the victim card now.

[Potential]

So how the hell do we fix this situation?

[Scase]

FTR down - outside 2022-23 at .361, his current FTr (.316) would be the 3rd highest of his career.

DRB% down - Outside 2021-22, and 2022-23, in which he played a lot of small ball C and therefore increases his rebounding opportunities, his current rate (17.9%) is in line with his career average of 17.5%-18.6% outside his rookie year (16%) or the small ball C years (20%).

AST% down - Pretty much directly coorelated to his increase of his FG attempts being assisted (30ish% last 2 year, up to 49% this year). Pretty much a result of a changed role where he initiates less and finishes more. Hard to have the same AST% when your role changes from starting a play to ending it.

BL% down - Yep. But we are talking a difference of 0.8% here. Aka one good game away from being right back in line with career averages.

TOV% up - Career average of 11.2%, and currently sitting at 12.6%. That is literally 3-4 less turnovers over the span of the entire season thus far.

WS/48 way down - this is a team cumulative stats, and as far as I know extremely box score based. It is pretty much a catch all of the above ^ items.

VORP / BPM - again, correct me if I am wrong, but see WS/48 above.

TS% way down- way down? really? Outside of his rookie and championship year, it has been between 54.7-56.5% his entire career. He is at 54.4% despite the previously mentioned horrible 3 point shooting. The fact it is that high despite shooting this bad is actually surprising to me.

PER - come on lmao

FT% - A career 77% shooter shooting 75% from the line.

Can I just go out on a limb here and say there is a lot of key context and/or exaggeration going on?

Ah yes, context now conveniently matters to you.

All the stats I listed, are all down from last year.

You seem to lack a fundamental grasp about what most of these stats actually are calculating, and pretty confidently coming up with excuses for each one.

AST% - Scotties 2/3's have increased by 2 and 3% respectively, yet his AST% has jumped 4% from last year. Siakams USG% is down a whopping 1.3% so yeah, I hardly doubt it's his shots being assisted on making a difference.

BL% - I'm sorry, one good game? He's averaging 0.2 BPG, he averaged 0.5 last year, but sure 1 good game might help with that. All that would require is him making 6 blocks in a game. Good thing only 14 players have done it this season, and every single one of them that has, is averaging close to 2 a game this year.

TOV% - No, that would be 6.5 TOs and that equates to 12.3% of his total turnovers this season. So yeah, if a player managed 12% less turnovers, that would be good.

WS/48 - It is way more complex, WS/48 requires multiple calculations to get DWS and OWS, combined, and then adjusted per 48.

TS% - Yes a 2.1% drop is massive, as is a 2.1% gain. His career average is 56.6%, I seem to recall you harping on Scotties TS% quite a bit, but now it is an exaggeration, that's convenient.

PER - Take it or leave it, it is still a measurable stat at which he is declining.

AST % - you are right here - I was confusing this with a per 100 stat which would be assists per 100 possessions. The change here then is his usage overall is down. It is completely reasonable that if his usage is down his ast % goes down as well.

I hardly doubt it's his shots being assisted on making a difference. - It actually 100% does. Siakam is touching the ball less, and when he does he is getting it at the end of plays (from Jak, or Scottie for example) and shooting it. This has boosted up his assisted makes % (from 31% to 49%, and probably why he is more efficient outside of shooting 3's), but also is why his ast % has dropped. He is still getting shots but getting them in different ways. It is hard to get assists when the ball is taken out of your hands.

TLDR - the drop is AST % is almost entirely related to change in role and has nothing to do with him playing worse.

BL% - yeah, one good game as blocks are incredibly noisy (and not to mention, really not indicative of anything either or else Whiteside would be a 5 time DPOY). Even in 2020 when Siakam averaged 0.9BPG he had 25 of his 60 games where he did not have a block. Blocks are the kind of thing where all it takes is a three game stretch where you get 6 or 7 blocks and boom, back at a 0.5/0.6 per game average and right in line with career averages.

TO% - ok, lets use 6.5 turnovers then. We are talking about 6 turnovers over a 20 game span. Just stop for a minute and realize how little that is and how much a small sample can affect that.

PER - it is measurable as in you are doubling counting stats here to make the list look longer than it is. PER is also a classic casual stat that also means nothing as it often swing towards bigs, which is probably why Siakam has dropped as he is no longer grabbing rebounds that Poeltl now gets.

Like it is un-debateable that things have dropped a bit here, but you are acting like these are waaaaaaay bigger things than they really are. Most can be summed up to small sample, and the rest have reasonable explantions (like playing with a real center might affect rebounds and blocks).

Fair enough on the touches per game, I can see how that would impact raw assist numbers.

BL% is not noisy, it clearly correlates to the best blocking players in the game. The more blocks you manage, the higher the number is. This is pretty basic. Scottie isn't putting up 3.2% by accident or because of one game, JJJ isn't putting up 5.8% by accident either. Siakam has never been good at blocks, but he is at an all time low.

You say all it requires is "one good game", but when that good game would be 6 or more blocks, completely ignoring that Siakam has never in his entire career managed a single game that good. And has had a total of 5 games in a 491 game career where he even recorded 4 blocks, kinda undermines the whole "all he needs is one" argument.

Yeah for his sake that should only take another 8-16 seasons at this rate. The same way Jak would only need 1 good game of shooting 6/6 from 3 to be an 80% 3pt shooter. Just cause it can technically happen, doesn't mean reality dictates it is even remotely likely to.

TOV% 6 turnovers isn't a miniscule amount, 0.3TO a game is miniscule if you average 0. But it's a pretty noticeable amount when you average 2.7. He's averaging 2.7 this year, the years that preceded it are 2.4 > 2.7 >2.3 > 2.5, it's not exactly a "just 6 turnovers" because it's right in line with what he has in the past....but higher, which is my point.

PER I've already stated it's a take it or leave it, but it's another data point. But using rebounds as an excuse? Come on dude lmao. He's averaging 7.2 this year, last year he averaged 7.8. His PER dropped from 20.3 to 16, you're gonna explain that with half a rebound a game?

I was never suggesting the drops were colossal, otherwise I would have stated as much. I specificed which stats were down pretty noticeably, but the point was overall his entire impact is down. Which was in stark contrast to a "his overall efficiency isnt far off".

[OakleyDokely]

lowest percent 3 point shooters by season, minimum 1.8 3pa per game, with at least 65 games played

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/lowest-percent-3-point-shooters-by-season-minimum-1.8-3pa-per-game-with-at-least-65-games-played


Giannis is having a historically bad 3pt season at 22.9%.

[Scase]

Delusional is evaluating a players performance based on one stat.

Delusional is failing to understand that the thread isn't about evaluating a players performance based on one stat.
Delusional is reading a thread titled :

Siakam is shooting the 3 at a historically bad rate, and has a chance to be one of the worst in NBA history.

And then (presumably) reading the entire OP that opens up with

So, Siakams 3p shooting woes are widely known, but I think what a lot of people don't understand is just HOW bad it actually is. So, let's break it down.

And then multiple paragraphs discussing nothing but 3 point shooting, and then thinking it is about the players performance overall.

Delusional is coming into a thread about 3 point shooting and talking about how despite being horrendous at 3 pointers, "his overall efficiency isn't far off from what he's posted over the last couple years." ignoring that this is the most inefficient season of his career.

you really think you need to tell us that 19% from 3 is bad?

Thanks tips.

Clearly based off your reading comprehension.

[OakleyDokely]

Delusional is failing to understand that the thread isn't about evaluating a players performance based on one stat.
Delusional is reading a thread titled :

Siakam is shooting the 3 at a historically bad rate, and has a chance to be one of the worst in NBA history.

And then (presumably) reading the entire OP that opens up with



And then multiple paragraphs discussing nothing but 3 point shooting, and then thinking it is about the players performance overall.

Delusional is coming into a thread about 3 point shooting and talking about how despite being horrendous at 3 pointers, "his overall efficiency isn't far off from what he's posted over the last couple years." ignoring that this is the most inefficient season of his career.

you really think you need to tell us that 19% from 3 is bad?

Thanks tips.

Clearly based off your reading comprehension.

My reading comprehension is fine.

For some reason, you still don't understand that I'm not arguing that Siakam isn't having a bad 3 point season, that much is obvious to anyone with a brain.

[Scase]

you really think you need to tell us that 19% from 3 is bad?

Thanks tips.

Clearly based off your reading comprehension.

My reading comprehension is fine.

For some reason, you still don't understand that I'm not arguing that Siakam isn't having a bad 3 point season, that much is obvious to anyone with a brain.

And I wasn't arguing his overall performance, that would be obvious to anyone with a functioning set of eyes and the capability to read and comprehend English yet.....

Delusional is evaluating a players performance based on one stat.

That said, I'm done with this absurd back and forth, you've derailed the thread enough already.

[OakleyDokely]

Clearly based off your reading comprehension.

My reading comprehension is fine.

For some reason, you still don't understand that I'm not arguing that Siakam isn't having a bad 3 point season, that much is obvious to anyone with a brain.

And I wasn't arguing his overall performance, that would be obvious to anyone with a functioning set of eyes and the capability to read and comprehend English yet.....

Delusional is evaluating a players performance based on one stat.

That said, I'm done with this absurd back and forth, you've derailed the thread enough already.

Dude, you responded to MY post without actually reading or understanding what I wrote.

[YogurtProducer]

BL% is not noisy, it clearly correlates to the best blocking players in the game. The more blocks you manage, the higher the number is. This is pretty basic. Scottie isn't putting up 3.2% by accident or because of one game, JJJ isn't putting up 5.8% by accident either. Siakam has never been good at blocks, but he is at an all time low.

Siakam has gone from 1.3% last year to 0.5% this year.
Scotitie has gone from 2.2% last year to 3.2 this year
JJJ has gone from 9.6% last year to 5.8% this year.

All 3 players have experienced a massive swing in blocks per game one way or the other. Crazy to say JJJ is not evidence of noise when he put up wildly different block % number year over year, as low as 5% and as high as 10%.

You say all it requires is "one good game", but when that good game would be 6 or more blocks, completely ignoring that Siakam has never in his entire career managed a single game that good. And has had a total of 5 games in a 491 game career where he even recorded 4 blocks, kinda undermines the whole "all he needs is one" argument.

Fine, call it "one good week" if that makes you feel better.

Yeah for his sake that should only take another 8-16 seasons at this rate. The same way Jak would only need 1 good game of shooting 6/6 from 3 to be an 80% 3pt shooter. Just cause it can technically happen, doesn't mean reality dictates it is even remotely likely to.

What are you even talking about here with 8-16 seasons?

TOV% 6 turnovers isn't a miniscule amount, 0.3TO a game is miniscule if you average 0. But it's a pretty noticeable amount when you average 2.7. He's averaging 2.7 this year, the years that preceded it are 2.4 > 2.7 >2.3 > 2.5, it's not exactly a "just 6 turnovers" because it's right in line with what he has in the past....but higher, which is my point.

The fact you post his yearly numbers of 2.4, 2.7, 2.3, and 2.5 and don't realize how mimimal his 2.7 this year vs his 2.5 average over the last 4 years is just comical. You are looking at small sample noise and drawing conclusions from it.

PER I've already stated it's a take it or leave it, but it's another data point. But using rebounds as an excuse? Come on dude lmao. He's averaging 7.2 this year, last year he averaged 7.8. His PER dropped from 20.3 to 16, you're gonna explain that with half a rebound a game?

PER is a stat that uses counting stats. Siakam has lower usage overall, as well as moved to a PF vs C position and is grabbing less rebounds. It is not shocking his PER has dropped.

Using PER as indicative of anything is cringe worthy, especailly when it is just catch all of everything you have already said. It is not some new additional point, it is just the same (wrong) point posted twice.

I was never suggesting the drops were colossal, otherwise I would have stated as much. I specificed which stats were down pretty noticeably, but the point was overall his entire impact is down. Which was in stark contrast to a "his overall efficiency isnt far off".

So all off-season all we heard is Siakam needs to take on less, then Siakam takes on less, and then we blast Siakam for his base counting stats for decreasing

Because that is all you have here. His base box score stats, in a small 20 game sample, have decreased SLIGHTLY (not even significantly). Cool.

[Duffman100]

My reading comprehension is fine.

For some reason, you still don't understand that I'm not arguing that Siakam isn't having a bad 3 point season, that much is obvious to anyone with a brain.

And I wasn't arguing his overall performance, that would be obvious to anyone with a functioning set of eyes and the capability to read and comprehend English yet.....

Delusional is evaluating a players performance based on one stat.

That said, I'm done with this absurd back and forth, you've derailed the thread enough already.

Dude, you responded to MY post without actually reading or understanding what I wrote.

Can you both please stop responding to each other. The words 'comprehension' and 'delusional' have lost all meaning.

[ForeverTFC]

He'll probably shoot it at .320 for the rest of the year; headline number will look ugly but taking out the cold start will brings us back to who Siakam has always been, a .310 to .330 3pt shooter on 3-4 attempts a game - a subpar 3pt threat. Conversely, he's shooting better inside the arc this season than ever in his career. It's somewhat surprising given the complete lack of spacing, though would also again point to Thorpe's comment that Scottie's hot start shifted some attention away from Pascal which has coincided with Scottie's numbers going down and Pascal getting more opportunities.

On a micro level, given his TS%, the bad 3pt shot is not as devastating as the headline suggests. But given how starved this team is for any space, it really sucks that this is the season he is shooting the 3 so bad.

[links135]

lowest percent 3 point shooters by season, minimum 1.8 3pa per game, with at least 65 games played

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/lowest-percent-3-point-shooters-by-season-minimum-1.8-3pa-per-game-with-at-least-65-games-played


Giannis is having a historically bad 3pt season at 22.9%.

Ok hear me out.

Giannis vs Siakam at the PF on the Raptors.

[TheGeneral99]

What's strange is that Otto Porter and Boucher have been shooting very well from 3 but don't play that much.

[YogurtProducer]

He'll probably shoot it at .320 for the rest of the year; headline number will look ugly but taking out the cold start will brings us back to who Siakam has always been, a .310 to .330 3pt shooter on 3-4 attempts a game - a subpar 3pt threat. Conversely, he's shooting better inside the arc this season than ever in his career. It's somewhat surprising given the complete lack of spacing, though would also again point to Thorpe's comment that Scottie's hot start shifted some attention away from Pascal which has coincided with Scottie's numbers going down and Pascal getting more opportunities.

On a micro level, given his TS%, the bad 3pt shot is not as devastating as the headline suggests. But given how starved this team is for any space, it really sucks that this is the season he is shooting the 3 so bad.

Siakam could shoot anywhere from 25-40% for the year and it would not surprise me.

The fact he has shot so poorly so far does not necessarily mean he is going to rebound and shoot above those averages going forward, but just because he has shot 19% this year also does not mean he is going to shoot 19% all year.

If Siakam gets back to 32ish% on the season though it is gonna take shooting like 36-38% here on out, which is unlikely.

[Nebuchadnezzar]

It's actually not that bad of thing. All it means is that he likely regresses to the mean, and shoots a better percentage which will lead to better offensive flow and probably a better winning percentage for the team. Sorry to all the frothing Siakam haters.

Sure he might get back to some level of bad average.

But also, you legitimately can’t find a 15 game sample this bad for a player going back to the early 80’s. IMO I think it is absolutely fair to say that’s terrible.

Sure it's terrible, but like any outlier chances are things will change.

[ForeverTFC]

He'll probably shoot it at .320 for the rest of the year; headline number will look ugly but taking out the cold start will brings us back to who Siakam has always been, a .310 to .330 3pt shooter on 3-4 attempts a game - a subpar 3pt threat. Conversely, he's shooting better inside the arc this season than ever in his career. It's somewhat surprising given the complete lack of spacing, though would also again point to Thorpe's comment that Scottie's hot start shifted some attention away from Pascal which has coincided with Scottie's numbers going down and Pascal getting more opportunities.

On a micro level, given his TS%, the bad 3pt shot is not as devastating as the headline suggests. But given how starved this team is for any space, it really sucks that this is the season he is shooting the 3 so bad.

Siakam could shoot anywhere from 25-40% for the year and it would not surprise me.

The fact he has shot so poorly so far does not necessarily mean he is going to rebound and shoot above those averages going forward, but just because he has shot 19% this year also does not mean he is going to shoot 19% all year.

If Siakam gets back to 32ish% on the season though it is gonna take shooting like 36-38% here on out, which is unlikely.

It's just as unlikely that he shoots it at .360 going forward as he continues shooting sub .300. The headline will look ugly as he just doesn't put up enough volume to correct the .200 he's at right now at the end of the season but odds are he'll shoot in that .320 range for the rest of the year going forward.