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Re: How Is LeBron Playing At Such A High Level? Unreal... 

Post#141 » by dhsilv2 » Wed Dec 6, 2023 10:29 pm

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Anticon wrote:Honestly think the "Lebron on PEDs" thing is the most annoying point since the Ibaka is old story. No proof but just absolute certainty on it.

He's the best combo of speed, skill, strength and smarts the league has ever seen, and NBA rules/defences are easier than 20 years ago. For someone that smart the game will be easy so long as his body cooperates.


I'll never get why people think it's totally normal for half the dudes at their local gym who look like poop shirtless to use gear, but they think ANY of the best athletes aren't using PED's.


Lots of the best athletes use PEDs, many have been caught.

With people like Lance/Bonds there was clearly smoke. With Lebron there has never been anything besides people being convinced as a standard talking point.


I think even today people don't grasp just how common PED's were in the major and minor leagues. A legit 80-90% of players were ACTIVELY on them! Trainers and team's provided off season "kits" based on player needs. And yes...with PED use that out in the open, there was smoke. Players have learned to shut up and not be THAT overt about it!
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Post#142 » by Jazz9 » Wed Dec 6, 2023 10:39 pm

PEDs aren't magic. When your body says "stop" it's over. You could take all the PEDs in the world and it wouldn't change the fact that you're done, especially in a sport like basketball.

To be moving like that in his 21st season, having played the third most minutes in the history of the sport, is crazy.
He should be a veeeeerrrrrryyyyy old 39 with all the miles on his body.
I don't think there's a magic drug out there that would make this possible and I believe even less that he would be the only one to have access to it.
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Post#143 » by Repeat 3-peat » Wed Dec 6, 2023 10:56 pm

Because of being,

One of the greatest of all time.
Avoided major injury.
Using the benefits of playing in the current era with improved sports science to prolong his career. Playing at a high level till the late 30's or maybe early 40's will be a norm in the NBA, which will create a deeper league, old/new generations will overlap compared to the past when players began to decline when reaching 10 or so seasons in the league.
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Post#144 » by One Last Shot » Wed Dec 6, 2023 10:58 pm

Jazz9 wrote:PEDs aren't magic. When your body says "stop" it's over. You could take all the PEDs in the world and it wouldn't change the fact that you're done, especially in a sport like basketball.

To be moving like that in his 21st season, having played the third most minutes in the history of the sport, is crazy.
He should be a veeeeerrrrrryyyyy old 39 with all the miles on his body.
I don't think there's a magic drug out there that would make this possible and I believe even less that he would be the only one to have access to it.



Actually, he already played the most minutes in NBA history.

LeBron played 66,458 NBA minutes
Kareem played 66,297 NBA minutes
Malone played 62,759 NBA minutes
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Post#145 » by Iwasawitness » Wed Dec 6, 2023 11:11 pm

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Lol. Funny. I remember Jalen Rose admitting to undercutting Kobe to intentionally take him out of the 2000 finals. And then remember Dahntay Jones intentionally undercutting him in Atlanta to injured him as well.

No such thing as Kobe 'landing awkwardly' due to an 'IQ'. One of the most delusional things I've heard on this forum. Lol


Almost as delusional as that time you claimed LeBron wasn’t a good one on one defender.


I don’t think he is. But please point to me some statistics about him holding a no name to under 40% from the field to prove your point.


I wasn’t aware that Paul Pierce, Tony Parker and Derrick Rose were nobodies. This is news to me.
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Post#146 » by WillyJakkz » Wed Dec 6, 2023 11:24 pm

Jazz9 wrote:PEDs aren't magic. When your body says "stop" it's over. You could take all the PEDs in the world and it wouldn't change the fact that you're done, especially in a sport like basketball.

To be moving like that in his 21st season, having played the third most minutes in the history of the sport, is crazy.
He should be a veeeeerrrrrryyyyy old 39 with all the miles on his body.
I don't think there's a magic drug out there that would make this possible and I believe even less that he would be the only one to have access to it.


Agreed and it's such a common sense take but yet here we are.

If PED's were magic wouldn't we see troves of senior citizens on them walking, no skipping down the streets in excitement because they have a second chance at living in their youth?

And the senior citizen would have FAR LESS wear and tear on their bodies than a professional athlete would.

LeBron is moving and far more agile and mobile than any old head athlete has moved at his age.

Even Wizards MJ wasn't this mobile and that guy was still cat quick in WAS.
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Post#147 » by Ursusamericanus » Wed Dec 6, 2023 11:30 pm

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zimpy27 wrote:Because he's the GOAT


I'm not ready to go there, but if he finesses one more ring before he retires I'd listen


I really hope he gets to 5. Hard to see it happening, but who knows.
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Post#148 » by One Last Shot » Wed Dec 6, 2023 11:31 pm

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Jazz9 wrote:PEDs aren't magic. When your body says "stop" it's over. You could take all the PEDs in the world and it wouldn't change the fact that you're done, especially in a sport like basketball.

To be moving like that in his 21st season, having played the third most minutes in the history of the sport, is crazy.
He should be a veeeeerrrrrryyyyy old 39 with all the miles on his body.
I don't think there's a magic drug out there that would make this possible and I believe even less that he would be the only one to have access to it.


Agreed and it's such a common sense take but yet here we are.

If PED's were magic wouldn't we see troves of senior citizens on them walking, no skipping down the streets in excitement because they have a second chance at living in their youth?

And the senior citizen would have FAR LESS wear and tear on their bodies than a professional athlete would.

LeBron is moving and far more agile and mobile than any old head athlete has moved at his age.

Even Wizards MJ wasn't this mobile and that guy was still cat quick in WAS.




Only players in history who played in their 21st season
Vince Carter: 7.4 PPG
Kevin Garnett: 3.2 PPG
Dirk Nowitzki: 7.3 PPG
Robert Parish: 3.7 PPG
Kevin Willis: 2.4 PPG

Combined Total: 24.0 PPG


LeBron in his 21st season: 24.7 ppg
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Post#149 » by Marvin Martian » Wed Dec 6, 2023 11:36 pm

Lebron is definitely on some PEDs. No way someone his age should be a rotation level player, let alone an all star.
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Post#150 » by tsherkin » Thu Dec 7, 2023 12:19 am

Marvin Martian wrote:Lebron is definitely on some PEDs. No way someone his age should be a rotation level player, let alone an all star.



How do you think PEDs work?
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Post#151 » by VanWest82 » Thu Dec 7, 2023 12:27 am

Marvin Martian wrote:Lebron is definitely on some PEDs. No way someone his age should be a rotation level player, let alone an all star.

Bron definitely isn't just someone but Kareem still averaged a hyper-efficient 17 and 6 and won a title the year he turned 39, and he didn't have today's advantages in terms of travel, team doctors, physio, med-tech, etc. It's certainly been done before. With that said, it's still incredible.
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Post#152 » by JustBuzzin » Thu Dec 7, 2023 12:33 am

Marvin Martian wrote:Lebron is definitely on some PEDs. No way someone his age should be a rotation level player, let alone an all star.

Explain how PED's help him make shots?

You sound crazy bro.
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Post#153 » by zimpy27 » Thu Dec 7, 2023 12:46 am

Marvin Martian wrote:Lebron is definitely on some PEDs. No way someone his age should be a rotation level player, let alone an all star.


LeBron is resting in game. He's just this good because of IQ, talent and size. Age just dictated how he beat you.
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Post#154 » by JustBuzzin » Thu Dec 7, 2023 12:53 am

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Marvin Martian wrote:Lebron is definitely on some PEDs. No way someone his age should be a rotation level player, let alone an all star.


LeBron is resting in game. He's just this good because of IQ, talent and size. Age just dictated how he beat you.

This and he takes care of his body. He's always been good, but he's aging pretty well because he simply takes care of his body. You don't stop learning how to play basketball as you get older. Most players fade away with age because they don't keep their body at peak condition.

Props to Lebron for still being in top tier shape.
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Post#155 » by NyKnicks1714 » Thu Dec 7, 2023 12:57 am

Jazz9 wrote:PEDs aren't magic. When your body says "stop" it's over. You could take all the PEDs in the world and it wouldn't change the fact that you're done, especially in a sport like basketball.

To be moving like that in his 21st season, having played the third most minutes in the history of the sport, is crazy.
He should be a veeeeerrrrrryyyyy old 39 with all the miles on his body.
I don't think there's a magic drug out there that would make this possible and I believe even less that he would be the only one to have access to it.


On this site PED's are a magical substance that do whatever you want them to do.
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Post#156 » by D.Brasco » Thu Dec 7, 2023 1:01 am

JustBuzzin wrote:
Marvin Martian wrote:Lebron is definitely on some PEDs. No way someone his age should be a rotation level player, let alone an all star.

Explain how PED's help him make shots?

You sound crazy bro.


PEDs were invented in Miami in 2010 and no athlete before or since has taken them but LeBron. Open your third eye man.
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Post#157 » by JustBuzzin » Thu Dec 7, 2023 1:04 am

D.Brasco wrote:
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Marvin Martian wrote:Lebron is definitely on some PEDs. No way someone his age should be a rotation level player, let alone an all star.

Explain how PED's help him make shots?

You sound crazy bro.


PEDs were invented in Miami in 2010 and no athlete before or since has taken them but LeBron. Open your third eye man.
Lebron was great before 2010, so obviously he never needed PED's.
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Post#158 » by whitehops » Thu Dec 7, 2023 1:05 am

i think a big part of it is the advancements in sports science. lebron is incredible but league-wide guys are maintaining their play later into their careers. a 6'3 guard like curry playing like he is at 36 is unheard of, durant playing like he is at 35 with the injuries he's had is crazy, etc. even in other sports that applies, like tom brady playing until 45 and playing his best in the latest years of his career.

i think skill development is the other factor. it's easier to stay in the league after you've a step if you're really skilled.
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Post#159 » by Jerry Maine » Thu Dec 7, 2023 1:09 am

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Father time finally notches an L if Bron is still playing as a grandfather.

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Post#160 » by cursedsportsfan » Thu Dec 7, 2023 1:38 am

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Rainwater wrote:People keep saying PEDs but why do people like Ayton get caught but not Lebron?


Ayton is an idiot. The way the league tests is so laughable if you get caught you almost had to have been trying.


What is so laughable about it? How does it differ compared to other leagues? I’m genuinely curious as I’ve never seen why. I just naturally assume most athletes are taking some kind of enhancement in professional sports tbh.

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