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[German Athens]

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AD is a skilled Giannis.

[skones]

For all of the hand wringing over Middleton's defense, it's 3.1 points better with him on the floor and he's a cool +11 per 100 possessions vs him off in total. I've said it before and I'll say it again. While he can't stay in front of his guy, and that's LONG been an issue, he's very very smart positionally and causes problems with his length by being disruptive in the middle and funneling guys in the right directions. As we sort out the help defense on the back side, (hopefully, but who the ef knows at this point) it should get better so long as his comfort level and knee improve (obviously the health is still a concern, but fingers crossed).

[drdrG]

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Khris is khash from the midrange. Amazingly, only 9 players in the league are shooting above 50% from that range on the season!

Right now the league average 3pt shooting is 36.3%. All else equal, you have to shoot better than 54.45% to make this a better shot than the league average 3 pointer. Not all else is equal but the math says that midrange shot is really bad.

[Ron Swanson]

Really thought we were past the "mid-range is dead" narrative after watching dudes like Jokic, Kawhi, and Jimmy carry offenses to the Finals with their post and mid-range game. Not to mention, you know....Khris himself in 2021.

[soxperry]

Really thought we were past the "mid-range is dead" narrative after watching dudes like Jokic, Kawhi, and Jimmy carry offenses to the Finals with their post and mid-range game. Not to mention, you know....Khris himself in 2021.

with each spring, we are
reminded of what matters
each fall, we forget

[randy84]

Screw defense, I want some bench scoring. Who is the best available scorer to run with the second unit?

[DingleJerry]

Screw defense, I want some bench scoring. Who is the best available scorer to run with the second unit?

Well, if you get someone to play guard D with the starters then Beasley seems like a great bench scorer type.

[randy84]

Screw defense, I want some bench scoring. Who is the best available scorer to run with the second unit?

Well, if you get someone to play guard D with the starters then Beasley seems like a great bench scorer type.

My concern with Beasley is that he doesn't look like he can create his own offense. His handles are pretty bad. I think he is strictly a spot up guy. I want someone like a Lou Williams or Jamal Crawford type.

[Badgerlander]

Still think Vanderbilt would be interesting. He only makes $4.6 mil this year

Can he be traded this year after he signed his extension?

I guess not, it’s 6 months and he sogned in september. I thought it was the same as a new contract

[DingleJerry]

Screw defense, I want some bench scoring. Who is the best available scorer to run with the second unit?

Well, if you get someone to play guard D with the starters then Beasley seems like a great bench scorer type.

My concern with Beasley is that he doesn't look like he can create his own offense. His handles are pretty bad. I think he is strictly a spot up guy. I want someone like a Lou Williams or Jamal Crawford type.

Fair and a correct view on Beasley. Also something I've had on my radar the last few years. However, with now having Dame I don't see it as a huge priority since he or Giannis should be on floor at all times as the PG/lead creator type. And they got a legit backup PG in Payne who can have his nights at times. I guess I think that skillset has been addressed with Dame (and a solid backup PG)

[Ron Swanson]

Screw defense, I want some bench scoring. Who is the best available scorer to run with the second unit?

Well, if you get someone to play guard D with the starters then Beasley seems like a great bench scorer type.

My concern with Beasley is that he doesn't look like he can create his own offense. His handles are pretty bad. I think he is strictly a spot up guy. I want someone like a Lou Williams or Jamal Crawford type.

Honestly don't know how people can think this after now watching the stark difference between him and a guy like Grayson. You could close out hard on guys like Grayson, Pat, Wes, and completely neutralize them offensively cuz they can't do much of anything off the dribble. Beasley is such a superior movement shooter off the bounce and it's not even close.

[emunney]

Beasley and Middleton are doing all we could hope with the space created for them by Giannis' and Dame's gravity. Beasley is shooting FTs from the corner and Khris is jogging into his dream spots with little resistance.

[Prez]

Quickley's minutes are down from last year, dude's at like 22 mpg over his last 8 games. He probably has already but Horst better be checking in to see what it'd take.

[soxperry]

Well, if you get someone to play guard D with the starters then Beasley seems like a great bench scorer type.

My concern with Beasley is that he doesn't look like he can create his own offense. His handles are pretty bad. I think he is strictly a spot up guy. I want someone like a Lou Williams or Jamal Crawford type.

Honestly don't know how people can think this after now watching the stark difference between him and a guy like Grayson. You could close out hard on guys like Grayson, Pat, Wes, and completely neutralize them offensively cuz they can't do much of anything off the dribble. Beasley is such a superior movement shooter off the bounce and it's not even close.

this is true. and he has been remarkably efficient when he chooses to drive and hit the floater or a pull up mid range.

one thing to keep in mind... we are very used to the playoff defense tightening and certain guys just not getting the same quality of shots that they do in the regular season. but i think a lot of this was due to teams being able to cheat off of Jrue and Giannis, especially when Khris was hurt. When you have a healthy Khris and now Dame on the court, i dont think it's going to be quite the same struggle for someone like Beas. I think for as long as he isn't relentlessly hunted on defense, he can stay on the court.

The neat thing about Dame that i didn't realize is his ability to drive and finish in traffic. That's a monumental asset to have in the playoffs because the shots aren't always going to fall. But he and Giannis can always drive and start the momentum that way.

[BroncoBuck]

I just checked on Griff’s son’s stats this year, but he is having a terrible Joe Alexander sophomore season. Wow.

Just for reference, the off court stuff I think you're noting here was with Alan Griffin, who played with us in SL this year, not with AJ.

Ah thanks for clarifying. I’ll edit that out

[ShootingtheJ]

Well, if you get someone to play guard D with the starters then Beasley seems like a great bench scorer type.

My concern with Beasley is that he doesn't look like he can create his own offense. His handles are pretty bad. I think he is strictly a spot up guy. I want someone like a Lou Williams or Jamal Crawford type.

Honestly don't know how people can think this after now watching the stark difference between him and a guy like Grayson. You could close out hard on guys like Grayson, Pat, Wes, and completely neutralize them offensively cuz they can't do much of anything off the dribble. Beasley is such a superior movement shooter off the bounce and it's not even close.

Beasley has a far quicker release than Grayson, but is worse at attacking closeouts. Beasley almost never scores off the dribble. The 2 times versus the Knicks that Lopez gave it to Beas with the clock running down were 2 terrible shot attempts. Beasley had 18 points last night, with the only dribble was to set up a sidestep 3.

Everything Beas scores is created by others. He doesn't score when he's in with bench lineups.

Griffins offense is creating better shots than we had in the past, and we have lots of shooters taking advantage, including Beas.

[ShootingtheJ]

Quickley's minutes are down from last year, dude's at like 22 mpg over his last 8 games. He probably has already but Horst better be checking in to see what it'd take.

True, but there's so many teams that can, and likely would, offer more. The Spurs should be calling daily.

[Bucksmaniac]

My concern with Beasley is that he doesn't look like he can create his own offense. His handles are pretty bad. I think he is strictly a spot up guy. I want someone like a Lou Williams or Jamal Crawford type.

Honestly don't know how people can think this after now watching the stark difference between him and a guy like Grayson. You could close out hard on guys like Grayson, Pat, Wes, and completely neutralize them offensively cuz they can't do much of anything off the dribble. Beasley is such a superior movement shooter off the bounce and it's not even close.

Beasley has a far quicker release than Grayson, but is worse at attacking closeouts. Beasley almost never scores off the dribble. The 2 times versus the Knicks that Lopez gave it to Beas with the clock running down were 2 terrible shot attempts. Beasley had 18 points last night, with the only dribble was to set up a sidestep 3.

Everything Beas scores is created by others. He doesn't score when he's in with bench lineups.

Griffins offense is creating better shots than we had in the past, and we have lots of shooters taking advantage, including Beas.

This underscores why he’s such a great fit as a 5th starter, he will only be set up by others if smart minds prevail. I was thinking MarJon initially for 5th starter but happy to have Malik prove me wrong.

Your second statement is not really true, our role players got tons of open 3s under Bud, they just couldn’t hit them, don’t underestimate how well Beasley has capitalized on this space in a way that other current role players like Pat haven’t done as consistently. Hope it keeps up!

[tedbrogen]

Here’s the argument to move Pat -
3P% and 3PA per game in his seasons with the Bucks:
33% on 3attempts
33 on 2.5
37 on 4
40 on 6
34 on 5
34 on 3
He’s also a 30 year old role player and role players who rely on their athleticism which Pat does for everything except shooting, generally don’t age well. To my eyes, he looks awful on D the past two seasons and he wasn’t great before.

The argument to keep him is that he has shot better in the playoffs four out of the five years and the last two years it was on five attempts per game.