NBA MVP Discussion Thread 2023-24

Wolfgang630 · Post #1601 » by **Wolfgang630** » Thu Dec 7, 2023 6:00 am

CobraCommander wrote:
AleksandarN wrote:
Wolfgang630 wrote:Definitely an absolute trash game from Jokic. Worst game in years.

I agree 100 percent

Got Westbrookian triple double lol

lol didn’t realize he got the triple double

AleksandarN · Post #1602 » by **AleksandarN** » Thu Dec 7, 2023 6:00 am

CobraCommander wrote:
AleksandarN wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:Got Westbrookian triple double lol

I was going to say that. 32 shots lol. I am like wtf. When did Jokic become a ball hog. Terrible chucker.

It was like he just wanted to beat these dudes so bad that he was pressing- I like that… correction - I love that Jokic wants to beat these guys - the clippers are a threat and he wanted to put them in their place.

It was like I was watching Kobe on his bad nights. Jokic was a stubborn chucker tonight. Terrible terrible game.

LordCovington33 · Post #1603 » by **LordCovington33** » Thu Dec 7, 2023 6:04 am

The two centers tonight

9-32 (Jokic)
19-29 (Embiid)

LordCovington33 · Post #1604 » by **LordCovington33** » Thu Dec 7, 2023 6:05 am

By the way, that was some pathetic stat padding by the Mavericks tonight. The team is up big (50 points in the end), and Doncic still played 32 minutes.

AleksandarN · Post #1605 » by **AleksandarN** » Thu Dec 7, 2023 6:06 am

bigboi wrote:
AleksandarN wrote:
bigboi wrote:
Disappeared when pointed out facts? I stopped even looking at y’all posts because it was so ridiculous. Had one dude talking about Jokic is better at running a team than Magic Johnson. Half of your arguments are incoherent nonsense. Random stat random stat, “that’s why Jokic is the GOAT”. Again, Jokic is elite but this is the SAME THING AS HARDEN. Realgm tried acting like Harden was better than Kobe because of random stats and that was never the case. Jokic is a liability on defense so he should never be considered on any MJ or Bron tier. It’s going to be funny to see y’all tears when he loses mvp again. B b but RAPTOR says blah blah blah nonsense

When did say I Jokic was a GOAT? Nothing you said is remotely what I said. Lol You keep trying but failing. Try to be less obvious when you gaslight. Do better when you try and troll. Terrible bud. Step up your troll game.

I’m not trolling. I’m clearly talking in general. I don’t remember what you said exactly. I just know that you’re a fanboy

lol. You obviously don’t know me. I criticize him and posters who go over board and say he is a top 10 player or he better than bird all time etc. Nice try though. Last conversation we had you disappeared when presented with facts. I keep expecting a better discussion but again let down

bigboi · Post #1606 » by **bigboi** » Thu Dec 7, 2023 6:06 am

Jokic triple double wasn’t even a real one either. Dude got the triple double off a Murray dribble drive where Murray pump faked. Make it make sense

AleksandarN · Post #1607 » by **AleksandarN** » Thu Dec 7, 2023 6:07 am

LordCovington33 wrote:The two centers tonight

9-32 (Jokic)
19-29 (Embiid)

Definitely Embiid had the better game by far. Considering this is Jokic’s worse game of his career. 9 for 32 I mean come on lol

LordCovington33 · Post #1608 » by **LordCovington33** » Thu Dec 7, 2023 6:07 am

AleksandarN wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:
AleksandarN wrote:I was going to say that. 32 shots lol. I am like wtf. When did Jokic become a ball hog. Terrible chucker.

It was like he just wanted to beat these dudes so bad that he was pressing- I like that… correction - I love that Jokic wants to beat these guys - the clippers are a threat and he wanted to put them in their place.

It was like I was watching Kobe on his bad nights. Jokic was a stubborn chucker tonight. Terrible terrible game.

And to do it in an LA game, which many voters would have watched

AleksandarN · Post #1609 » by **AleksandarN** » Thu Dec 7, 2023 6:08 am

Wolfgang630 wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:
AleksandarN wrote:I agree 100 percent

Got Westbrookian triple double lol

lol didn’t realize he got the triple double

Worse triple double of his career

eyeatoma · Post #1610 » by **eyeatoma** » Thu Dec 7, 2023 6:08 am

CobraCommander wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
AleksandarN wrote:
Huh?

Sorry, I thought that came from another poster, my bad. I thought that was Wolfgang who said that.

There is some merit to Embiid ducking tough games and then showing up to kill the wizards lol

I could get buckets on the wiz -

Kuz and Poole are the lowest basketball iq duo in nba history

There is no merit. He has played the Celtics and dropped 50, and played the Bucks and dropped 40-50 in a win.

He has dominated Gobert in the past, and dominated Jokic in the past. Who is he ducking that he's scared of? Shouldn't he be ducking Horford?

Or Marc Gasol?

AleksandarN · Post #1611 » by **AleksandarN** » Thu Dec 7, 2023 6:09 am

LordCovington33 wrote:
AleksandarN wrote:
CobraCommander wrote:It was like he just wanted to beat these dudes so bad that he was pressing- I like that… correction - I love that Jokic wants to beat these guys - the clippers are a threat and he wanted to put them in their place.

It was like I was watching Kobe on his bad nights. Jokic was a stubborn chucker tonight. Terrible terrible game.

And to do it in an LA game, which many voters would have watched

I am sure him having an off night won’t sway voters tonight. Given his body of work I doubt it. But man was Jokic terrible lol

LordCovington33 · Post #1612 » by **LordCovington33** » Thu Dec 7, 2023 6:10 am

People might say, yeah it’s against the Wizards, but how many have had a 50-13-7 (one turnover) or better against them this year?

Chokic · Post #1613 » by **Chokic** » Thu Dec 7, 2023 6:10 am

9/32?

eyeatoma · Post #1614 » by **eyeatoma** » Thu Dec 7, 2023 6:11 am

LordCovington33 wrote:People might say, yeah it’s against the Wizards, but how many have had a 50-13-7 (one turnover) or better against them this year?

He has 6 turnovers. You might have read 1 block.

AleksandarN · Post #1615 » by **AleksandarN** » Thu Dec 7, 2023 6:12 am

Chokic wrote:9/32?

Yeah absolutely terrible. Worse game of his career

mediocrityrules · Post #1616 » by **mediocrityrules** » Thu Dec 7, 2023 6:13 am

LordCovington33 wrote:By the way, that was some pathetic stat padding by the Mavericks tonight. The team is up big (50 points in the end), and Doncic still played 32 minutes.

It was definitely stat padding in the 3rd.

He played all 12 minutes in the third quarter, as the margin hovered around 30 points for the entire quarter.

LordCovington33 · Post #1617 » by **LordCovington33** » Thu Dec 7, 2023 6:14 am

eyeatoma wrote:
LordCovington33 wrote:People might say, yeah it’s against the Wizards, but how many have had a 50-13-7 (one turnover) or better against them this year?

He has 6 turnovers. You might have read 1 block.

Yes, you are right. It didn’t seem right as I saw him turnover the ball on multiple times while watching.

LordCovington33 · Post #1618 » by **LordCovington33** » Thu Dec 7, 2023 6:18 am

mediocrityrules wrote:
LordCovington33 wrote:By the way, that was some pathetic stat padding by the Mavericks tonight. The team is up big (50 points in the end), and Doncic still played 32 minutes.

It was definitely stat padding in the 3rd.

He played all 12 minutes in the third quarter, as the margin hovered around 30 points for the entire quarter.

Their choice in the end, but when you are up that big and the player ends up twisting an injury or sth, you only have yourself to blame. Seen it with Embiid during the Toronto playoff series when rivers kept him out there for too long and he hurt his eye. Why risk it for a triple double? You need your franchise players healthy.

mediocrityrules · Post #1619 » by **mediocrityrules** » Thu Dec 7, 2023 6:20 am

LordCovington33 wrote:
mediocrityrules wrote:
LordCovington33 wrote:By the way, that was some pathetic stat padding by the Mavericks tonight. The team is up big (50 points in the end), and Doncic still played 32 minutes.

It was definitely stat padding in the 3rd.

He played all 12 minutes in the third quarter, as the margin hovered around 30 points for the entire quarter.

Their choice in the end, but when you are up that big and the player ends up twisting an injury or sth, you only have yourself to blame. Seen it with Embiid during the Toronto playoff series when rivers kept him out there for too long and he hurt his eye. Why risk it for a triple double? You need your franchise players healthy.

I'm not against stat padding per se, but for a lot of these guys the risk of injury is too great, and you also just want to give guys as much rest as you can when you can when they are your starters and play starter's minutes.

LordCovington33 · Post #1620 » by **LordCovington33** » Thu Dec 7, 2023 6:22 am

mediocrityrules wrote:
LordCovington33 wrote:
mediocrityrules wrote:
It was definitely stat padding in the 3rd.

He played all 12 minutes in the third quarter, as the margin hovered around 30 points for the entire quarter.

Their choice in the end, but when you are up that big and the player ends up twisting an injury or sth, you only have yourself to blame. Seen it with Embiid during the Toronto playoff series when rivers kept him out there for too long and he hurt his eye. Why risk it for a triple double? You need your franchise players healthy.

I'm not against stat padding per se, but for a lot of these guys the risk of injury is too great, and you also just want to give guys as much rest as you can when you can when they are your starters and play starter's minutes.

And you want to give the other players more minutes to practise plays in real game situations.

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