How Is LeBron Playing At Such A High Level? Unreal...
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Lakers are now 4th seed in the WC and LeBron has egregiously impressive impact numbers. Extreme separation from the rest of his team. The other starters sink completely when they are not playing with him. Have never seen separation like this.
On/Off Rating for Lakers players with more than 100 minutes played
LeBron: +20.3 rtg
Davis: +8.4 rtg
Russell: +6.3 rtg
Rui: +4.5 rtg
Reddish: +2.7 rtg
Vincent: +2.2 rtg
Wood: +0.5 rtg
Prince: -1.1 rtg
Reeves: -4.4 rtg
Christie: -5.5 rtg
Hayes: -9.4 rtg
On/Off Rating for Lakers players with more than 100 minutes played
LeBron: +20.3 rtg
Davis: +8.4 rtg
Russell: +6.3 rtg
Rui: +4.5 rtg
Reddish: +2.7 rtg
Vincent: +2.2 rtg
Wood: +0.5 rtg
Prince: -1.1 rtg
Reeves: -4.4 rtg
Christie: -5.5 rtg
Hayes: -9.4 rtg
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Guardia wrote:Better question would be why we never ever heard anything bad about Lebron off the court?
And pleast dont act like he done nothing. Its just the people/companies behind him that make this things ‘go away’.
Why are people like this?... no but seriously... why?
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NyKnicks1714 wrote:His production aside, LeBron should be load managing, especially if Darvin Ham can't resist the temptation to play him big minutes. I think he's missed one game this season and that's far too few.
gotta look at the context. this lakers team has been dealing with a ton of injuries to start the season AND had one of the toughest schedules to start the year. if they stuck to their guns about minutes restrictions, theyd have a losing record right now. I mean they were playing multiple games without a single wing player not named LeBron. You had no Vanderbilt, no Rui, no Reddish, no Hayes, no Vincent. I mean thats literally half of the rotation. Now that theyre healthy, and especially with the schedule lightening up in a week or so, he will finally get to rest up a bit.
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JordansBulls wrote:The High Cyde wrote:He’s the GOAT.
This man might play for 24-25 years straight, that’s about 10 years more than Jordan while being just as if not more dominant than him for that long, and he’s already scored more than Kareem. It is absurd, the longevity plus the peak plus the prime stretching two+ decades…
And still has less overall accolades while a guy in his own era that came in after him has as many titles and beat him head to head more without switching teams and stacking the deck. Also has missed the playoffs as much as titles won.
wait wait wait wait WAIT... back that truck up for just a sec... I was giving you a couple of these petty points at first but uh, then you said something truly stupid. You said that Steph did NOT stack the deck? so im assuming you were just in a coma from 2017-2019? That would be the only explanation.
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LeBron is definitely a fake slimey pos, but I can't deny how insane it is that he's playing at this level. Been arguably the third best player in the league this year.
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Dr Aki wrote:Best part of tonight
4-4 3pt
8-8 FT
Yup and 0 turnovers. Ridiculously efficient and impactful game
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ryguy613 wrote:JordansBulls wrote:The High Cyde wrote:He’s the GOAT.
This man might play for 24-25 years straight, that’s about 10 years more than Jordan while being just as if not more dominant than him for that long, and he’s already scored more than Kareem. It is absurd, the longevity plus the peak plus the prime stretching two+ decades…
And still has less overall accolades while a guy in his own era that came in after him has as many titles and beat him head to head more without switching teams and stacking the deck. Also has missed the playoffs as much as titles won.
wait wait wait wait WAIT... back that truck up for just a sec... I was giving you a couple of these petty points at first but uh, then you said something truly stupid. You said that Steph did NOT stack the deck? so im assuming you were just in a coma from 2017-2019? That would be the only explanation.
Seems like he save that line in his notepad. He keeps repeating that over and over again. He forgot to mention his other narrative that LeBron also won bronze in Olympics as 19 years old playing 11 minutes and took 4 shots per game and that he played with washed Shaq, Ben Wallace, Deron Williams and other former stars about to retire. They are so insecure right now just like their idol MJ because they know its just a matter of time until LeBron took the throne from Jordan. Try to google when did MJ decided to start the production of his Last Dance documentary.
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1. PEDs
2. He quit playing defense years ago which allows him to conserve so much energy and avoid wear and tear
3. Others players quit playing defense so scoring is so much easier
2. He quit playing defense years ago which allows him to conserve so much energy and avoid wear and tear
3. Others players quit playing defense so scoring is so much easier
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Everyone here saying PEDs just makes me giggle (also wonder how many double accounts there are). But first, why would LeBron be the only one doing this? Is the rest of the league just not capable nor smart enough to enhance their career by an extensive amount and make extra millions, which would be worth it for NBA players given their short career span? Secondly, as far as I knew, PEDs don't increase shooting numbers and basketball IQ, but perhaps I'm oblivious to the multitude of benefits it says. In that case, shoot me up!
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On a real note, he's a GOAT, which makes the norm for guys like him statistically irrelevant. Every generation will have a guy who defies the common knowledge about something we think we know. LeBron is an outlier and he should be seen as such in terms of career length and performance.
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Guardia wrote:Better question would be why we never ever heard anything bad about Lebron off the court?
And pleast dont act like he done nothing. Its just the people/companies behind him that make this things ‘go away’.
For real, why does no one talk about the gambling debts that supposedly got his dad killed?
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Sofia wrote:Guardia wrote:Better question would be why we never ever heard anything bad about Lebron off the court?
And pleast dont act like he done nothing. Its just the people/companies behind him that make this things ‘go away’.
For real, why does no one talk about the gambling debts that supposedly got his dad killed?
This is a clear example of both sides of the argument being idiots. Holy **** people need to grow up.
Back to topic. Lebron is a business man. As far as I know he's probably the only one that spends 1m a year on his body. Maybe even more? With how medicine is advance now, it shouldn't be a surprise. But it is surprising because to many nba stars getting injured lol. Makes me wonder if NBA players are just there for a paycheck.
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Bronsexual fans LOL ...
Wait until retirement unless they protect him LOL ... ...
Edit: And yes I'm a hater. hope you Bron fans retire with him
Wait until retirement unless they protect him LOL ... ...
Edit: And yes I'm a hater. hope you Bron fans retire with him
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Prince187 wrote:1. PEDs
2. He quit playing defense years ago which allows him to conserve so much energy and avoid wear and tear
3. Others players quit playing defense so scoring is so much easier
LOL I love you
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When he retires, the news will come out, but as stated b4 I give him props still not In my top 5 players ...
1. MJ 2. B.Russel 3. L.Bird 4. T.Duncan 5 M.Johnson ... 6. Kobe 7 Shaq ... 8 Bron
Yes I'm a Kobe fan/Laker fan. Still not In my top 5 ... Top 5 Is a class of It's own... Bird himself would wreck Bron with his mind games LOL ... Bird would have Bron crying like no tomorrow LOL
1. MJ 2. B.Russel 3. L.Bird 4. T.Duncan 5 M.Johnson ... 6. Kobe 7 Shaq ... 8 Bron
Yes I'm a Kobe fan/Laker fan. Still not In my top 5 ... Top 5 Is a class of It's own... Bird himself would wreck Bron with his mind games LOL ... Bird would have Bron crying like no tomorrow LOL
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SlimShady83 wrote:When he retires, the news will come out, but as stated b4 I give him props still not In my top 5 players ...
1. MJ 2. B.Russel 3. L.Bird 4. T.Duncan 5 M.Johnson ... 6. Kobe 7 Shaq ... 8 Bron
Yes I'm a Kobe fan/Laker fan. Still not In my top 5 ... Top 5 Is a class of It's own... Bird himself would wreck Bron with his mind games LOL ... Bird would have Bron crying like no tomorrow LOL
You said it… you are a hater and Kobe fan not a lakers fan.
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AussieCeltic wrote:He’s either on PEDS or people have to admit it’s way easier to score now than it was 10 years ago.
I mean Lebron has similar numbers now to what he had in his second stint in Cleveland but now he’s averaging way less minutes.
So where are his peers then?
Like maybe Lebron just is really good at basketball. Most of these arguments against him make zero sense because if that's true why is he the only guy left from his era, lol. The other guys couldn't afford steroids?
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kingr wrote:For the crowd that likes to accuse him for being on PEDs... Can someone with knowledge explain to me how it works. Does it make him hit shots? Would PEDs make every player in the NBA much better and play at a high level until 40?
Come on you’re telling me you don’t know anybody who’s gone on testosterone replacement therapy before? Most of them will say how they feel like teenagers again, have tons of energy, increased strength, increased focus, motivation, more confidence, less recovery time, etc
All that stuff will help out a ton on the basketball court. Especially the increased focus and confidence, that will help you shoot better. For the first decade of LeBron’s career his biggest criticism was about how he’s a mental midget who folds under pressure and is afraid to take the last shot. Well steroids can totally change that in his case it obviously did.
And I’m just talking about testosterone here. HGH is a whole different story. It’s extremely expensive to take high doses of pharmaceutical grade HGH for long periods of time so I don’t know anyone who’s done that but I know of people who’ve taken moderate doses for short periods of time and they said it makes them feel out of this world.
LeBron is taking the highest quality and highest doses of PEDs known to man because money isn’t an issue and neither is getting caught because he’s being protected by the people who control the NBA and control the powerful corporations. Other players don’t get that protection, so they get caught while he gets an unfair advantage over everyone else
Btw I’m not endorsing anyone here using steroids because it’s stupid and you’re going to significantly decrease your lifespan. They also tend to work best for people who never needed them, like LeBron. He only started using them during his second Cleveland stint. And they are the only reason why he’s seemingly defeated Father Time. He’s not Tom Brady and doing some crazy stuff to take care of his body. Brady doesn’t even eat some types of vegetables because he thinks they’re unhealthy, meanwhile LeBron eats junk food and drinks alcohol regularly
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Homer38 wrote:
Chill man you’re going to make general board blow a gasket. They just can’t face reality, they hate this stuff.

