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Time to reduce injuries keep 2 move 2: JI, Suggs, WCJ, or Fultz.

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Re: Time to reduce injuries keep 2 move 2: JI, Suggs, WCJ, or Fultz. 

Post#41 » by Duke4life831 » Fri Dec 8, 2023 7:55 pm

From an outsiders perspective, Id say move on from Fultz, Harris, and kick the tires on WCJ.

Suggs shouldnt even be in consideration for this and I just dont think there is more value with JI being here and banged up than what youll get back in return for him.

Fultz and Harris I think are easy ones. Ya doubt there is much value for them, just dont see much value for them on this team anyways. WCJ is the guy I think you can get value for and depending on the value, I would say yes on moving him.
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Re: Time to reduce injuries keep 2 move 2: JI, Suggs, WCJ, or Fultz. 

Post#42 » by zaymon » Fri Dec 8, 2023 8:57 pm

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MagicMatic wrote:He was traded away from Philly for the exact reasons people accurately criticize him in Orlando. He's perpetually "injured" and is a liability on offense for obvious reasons.


You realize ish like putting “injured” in quotations is why you are known as a hater despite making otherwise good points, right?


He is known as a hater where, in your head ? Becouse we believe 10 doctors who said his shoulder is ok instead of 1 who said he has TOS ?
You can defend Fultz if you want, even regardless of logic and reality but it doesnt make you a better person.
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Post#43 » by Message Boar » Fri Dec 8, 2023 9:43 pm

In this hypothetical, I'm keeping Suggs (easily) and WCJ (somewhat less easy). Could consider JI over WCJ in terms of impact per minute, but well, he's even more unreliable to me.

Might edit in more later.
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Post#44 » by rusoopE » Fri Dec 8, 2023 11:31 pm

We gotta look at how the injuries happens and how we threat em. Wendell's was just pure unluck. You are being too harsh to the guy he has a pass for me.
Isaac is between cottons treatment, they gonna refuse to play him even with a small headache and trying to get his value as high as they can before an imminent trade.
Fultz is gonna be on the trade line all year and if the fo can't get anything he will be gone at the end of the season so I don't even care about him.
Suggs is suggs man, 120% heart and hustle, maybe he can learn to read his body and how to take care of it in-game and off game and avoid all these injuries, hopefully...
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Post#45 » by meatwad4343 » Sat Dec 9, 2023 12:04 am

I don't expect JI back after this year. You can't justify giving him any money when he's always hurt, I'm weary of paying Suggs big money for the same reason. Fultz can just walk, wcj I would try to trade
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Re: Time to reduce injuries keep 2 move 2: JI, Suggs, WCJ, or Fultz. 

Post#46 » by Audi » Sat Dec 9, 2023 12:17 am

zaymon wrote:
Audi wrote:
MagicMatic wrote:He was traded away from Philly for the exact reasons people accurately criticize him in Orlando. He's perpetually "injured" and is a liability on offense for obvious reasons.


You realize ish like putting “injured” in quotations is why you are known as a hater despite making otherwise good points, right?


He is known as a hater where, in your head ? Becouse we believe 10 doctors who said his shoulder is ok instead of 1 who said he has TOS ?
You can defend Fultz if you want, even regardless of logic and reality but it doesnt make you a better person.


Haha, no doctors said his shoulder was “ok” and if you don’t know what a diagnosis by omission is then you should probably go sit at the kids table.

Why are you even rushing to MagicMatic’s defense anyway? We already know you’ve sided against the medical professionals and have ascribed to your own nonsense conspiracy on Fultz. Nobody cares. Ship has sailed. You planted your flag on that distant planet. But as far as I know, MagicMatic’s not taken the plunge into your wild stance and so I’m questioning why he says the things he says when he’s otherwise making perfectly apt points.
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Re: Time to reduce injuries keep 2 move 2: JI, Suggs, WCJ, or Fultz. 

Post#47 » by zaymon » Sat Dec 9, 2023 6:25 am

Audi wrote:
zaymon wrote:
Audi wrote:
You realize ish like putting “injured” in quotations is why you are known as a hater despite making otherwise good points, right?


He is known as a hater where, in your head ? Becouse we believe 10 doctors who said his shoulder is ok instead of 1 who said he has TOS ?
You can defend Fultz if you want, even regardless of logic and reality but it doesnt make you a better person.


Haha, no doctors said his shoulder was “ok” and if you don’t know what a diagnosis by omission is then you should probably go sit at the kids table.

Why are you even rushing to MagicMatic’s defense anyway? We already know you’ve sided against the medical professionals and have ascribed to your own nonsense conspiracy on Fultz. Nobody cares. Ship has sailed. You planted your flag on that distant planet. But as far as I know, MagicMatic’s not taken the plunge into your wild stance and so I’m questioning why he says the things he says when he’s otherwise making perfectly apt points.


Just continoue call people haters, it makes you look more credible.
You act so immature and childish no suprise kids table is the first thing that came to your mind.
Your diagnosis by omission argument makes no sense. All imaging tests are good, and there is no structural damage and one doctor after another cant find a physical problem and whole organization doesnt know whats happening and than his agent finds him a doctor who diagnoses illness you cant really confirm and than he is traded immediately.
TOS 100% diagnosis by omission lol.
Doctor who diagnosed him by omission was incompetent or tried to protect him. Lots of money on the table. Fultz should start psychotherapy if he didnt already. I feel bad for him becouse he seems like a nice guy.
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Re: Time to reduce injuries keep 2 move 2: JI, Suggs, WCJ, or Fultz. 

Post#48 » by Audi » Sat Dec 9, 2023 2:30 pm

zaymon wrote:
Audi wrote:
zaymon wrote:
He is known as a hater where, in your head ? Becouse we believe 10 doctors who said his shoulder is ok instead of 1 who said he has TOS ?
You can defend Fultz if you want, even regardless of logic and reality but it doesnt make you a better person.


Haha, no doctors said his shoulder was “ok” and if you don’t know what a diagnosis by omission is then you should probably go sit at the kids table.

Why are you even rushing to MagicMatic’s defense anyway? We already know you’ve sided against the medical professionals and have ascribed to your own nonsense conspiracy on Fultz. Nobody cares. Ship has sailed. You planted your flag on that distant planet. But as far as I know, MagicMatic’s not taken the plunge into your wild stance and so I’m questioning why he says the things he says when he’s otherwise making perfectly apt points.


Just continoue call people haters, it makes you look more credible.
You act so immature and childish no suprise kids table is the first thing that came to your mind.
Your diagnosis by omission argument makes no sense. All imaging tests are good, and there is no structural damage and one doctor after another cant find a physical problem and whole organization doesnt know whats happening and than his agent finds him a doctor who diagnoses illness you cant really confirm and than he is traded immediately.
TOS 100% diagnosis by omission lol.
Doctor who diagnosed him by omission was incompetent or tried to protect him. Lots of money on the table. Fultz should start psychotherapy if he didnt already. I feel bad for him becouse he seems like a nice guy.


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Re: Time to reduce injuries keep 2 move 2: JI, Suggs, WCJ, or Fultz. 

Post#49 » by Knightro » Sat Dec 9, 2023 2:50 pm

It wouldn’t surprise me whatsoever if that the severe hitch in Fultz’s shot is back and the knee tendinitis diagnosis is more or less a cover to keep him from having to go out there and try and play with that hitchy shot.
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Post#50 » by Furinkazan » Sat Dec 9, 2023 2:56 pm

WCJ gets fkn injured every fkn year... yet nobody here treats him as injury prone...

Id love us to upgrade either at pg or C so imo
WCJ and Fultz bye
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Post#51 » by VFX » Sat Dec 9, 2023 4:07 pm

Knightro wrote:It wouldn’t surprise me whatsoever if that the severe hitch in Fultz’s shot is back and the knee tendinitis diagnosis is more or less a cover to keep him from having to go out there and try and play with that hitchy shot.


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Post#52 » by RookieStar » Sat Dec 9, 2023 9:02 pm

Furinkazan wrote:WCJ gets fkn injured every fkn year... yet nobody here treats him as injury prone...

Id love us to upgrade either at pg or C so imo
WCJ and Fultz bye


We all know ( and I have been saying it evern since he got here ) we can always expect WCJ t gve us around 60 games a season only. Thats why a backup C is important for us ( hence the Vuc debate about bringing him home lol)

However, his injuries isn't always the same. Ankle, eyes, hands etc. Its more of a bad luck than injury prone for him
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Post#53 » by RookieStar » Sat Dec 9, 2023 9:05 pm

MagicMatic wrote:
Knightro wrote:It wouldn’t surprise me whatsoever if that the severe hitch in Fultz’s shot is back and the knee tendinitis diagnosis is more or less a cover to keep him from having to go out there and try and play with that hitchy shot.


This


Yeah... anyone ever heard of tendinits taking this long? But since we are winning and watching our high draft pick play, no one really cares. win-win for everyone.
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Post#54 » by basketballRob » Sat Dec 9, 2023 10:57 pm

meatwad4343 wrote:I don't expect JI back after this year. You can't justify giving him any money when he's always hurt, I'm weary of paying Suggs big money for the same reason. Fultz can just walk, wcj I would try to trade
They brought him back this year.

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Post#55 » by Blue_and_Whte » Sun Dec 10, 2023 1:41 am

I’d only keep Suggs TBH.
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Post#56 » by eyriq » Sun Dec 10, 2023 2:53 pm

It's crazy how impactful Isaac is when healthy. It makes his unreliability all the more disappointing. I'm curious to learn what Weltman plans for him.
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Post#57 » by Blue_and_Whte » Sun Dec 10, 2023 2:59 pm

eyriq wrote:It's crazy how impactful Isaac is when healthy. It makes his unreliability all the more disappointing. I'm curious to learn what Weltman plans for him.

I was just about to edit my comment with the same thoughts. I mean these injuries seem like they can be played through but obviously they’re going to be overly cautious especially with how much time he’s missed.
Imo we could afford to move on from WCJ and Fultz if it improves the roster.
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Post#58 » by T-Cat » Sun Dec 10, 2023 3:14 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:
eyriq wrote:It's crazy how impactful Isaac is when healthy. It makes his unreliability all the more disappointing. I'm curious to learn what Weltman plans for him.

I was just about to edit my comment with the same thoughts. I mean these injuries seem like they can be played through but obviously they’re going to be overly cautious especially with how much time he’s missed.
Imo we could afford to move on from WCJ and Fultz if it improves the roster.


We need as much depth as possible come playoff time! Markelle will be more useful off the bench for us, I'm curious if we will see a better Fultz around that time especially cause it's his contract year.
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Post#59 » by eyriq » Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:59 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:
eyriq wrote:It's crazy how impactful Isaac is when healthy. It makes his unreliability all the more disappointing. I'm curious to learn what Weltman plans for him.

I was just about to edit my comment with the same thoughts. I mean these injuries seem like they can be played through but obviously they’re going to be overly cautious especially with how much time he’s missed.
Imo we could afford to move on from WCJ and Fultz if it improves the roster.
I'm not ready to move on from WCJ. We've got him on a great contract. Fultz is an easy out, JI is harder, while Suggs is on the verge of being considered a core piece.

JI, I'd let it play out. If he can get up into the mid 20s in minutes per game while staying healthy I'll celebrate like we won the championship. Otherwise, he's cut. Fultz I'd try and trade at the deadline.
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Post#60 » by fendilim » Sun Dec 10, 2023 6:11 pm

Audi wrote:
zaymon wrote:
Audi wrote:
You realize ish like putting “injured” in quotations is why you are known as a hater despite making otherwise good points, right?


He is known as a hater where, in your head ? Becouse we believe 10 doctors who said his shoulder is ok instead of 1 who said he has TOS ?
You can defend Fultz if you want, even regardless of logic and reality but it doesnt make you a better person.


Haha, no doctors said his shoulder was “ok” and if you don’t know what a diagnosis by omission is then you should probably go sit at the kids table.

Why are you even rushing to MagicMatic’s defense anyway? We already know you’ve sided against the medical professionals and have ascribed to your own nonsense conspiracy on Fultz. Nobody cares. Ship has sailed. You planted your flag on that distant planet. But as far as I know, MagicMatic’s not taken the plunge into your wild stance and so I’m questioning why he says the things he says when he’s otherwise making perfectly apt points.

Do you believe his shoulders are “ok”?
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