Fake Trade Thread #5

[JustBuzzin]

Anyway we can get Zion without trading Melo/Miller/Mark?


Hayward/Bridges + future pick

[SWedd523]

Boy you must be plum crazy if you think trading for Zion is a good idea at this point

[JustBuzzin]

Lol

[Liver_Pooty]

I honestly can't think of the last time an athlete who if he just took care of himself could be the best player in the world at his sport. The dude is a fringe all star not even caring. Tragic to be honest.

[GoBobs]

Anyway we can get Zion without trading Melo/Miller/Mark?


Hayward/Bridges + future pick

Somebody is beating that offer, and even if they didn't we would end up regretting it.

[Rich4114]

Trading for Zion now is buying low and the best time to make such a move. Especially if it’s a matter of diet. It’s certainly a risk, but as I said before the draft if it wasn’t a risk then he wouldn’t be available at all. If you can add someone like that to the roster for future draft capital and not give up Melo/Miller/Mark then you absolutely do it. If it turns out bad, we still have a better team than we do now.

[Diop]

if we trade Rozier for an expiring, could we sign Miles and OG Anunoby next year?

its a pipe dream, but i need something to keep me going

Ball,
OG,
Miller,
Miles, Pj Washington
Mark, Richards

[JMAC3]

if we trade Rozier for an expiring, could we sign Miles and OG Anunoby next year?

its a pipe dream, but i need something to keep me going

Ball,
OG,
Miller,
Miles, Pj Washington
Mark, Richards

Likely not, that would give us 50 million in cap space. Miles and OG probably both are asking for 30+.
Raptors will be at 80 million in cap space if they let Pascal and OG walk, so there really is no incentive for them not resign them if they decide not to trade them right now.

OG is a candidate for a FVV deal, someone gives him a 2 year Max type of deal.

[JustBuzzin]

if we trade Rozier for an expiring, could we sign Miles and OG Anunoby next year?

its a pipe dream, but i need something to keep me going

Ball,
OG,
Miller,
Miles, Pj Washington
Mark, Richards

OG is literally the perfect fit for this team.

[HornetJail]

Bridges has a ~15M cap hold due to his tiny salary this year. If we are going to be a cap team, I assume we're renouncing every FA/unguaranteed player but him and maybe Amari Bailey (min). Cut ties with Thor, McGowens, etc. Factor in about 8M for our 1st round pick if we're going to continue to suck.

Melo, PJ, Miller, Mark, Martin, Richards, NSJ, ~#6 pick, Miles cap hold is around $105M if we do trade Terry. Keeping Terry and moving off of Martin+Richards instead puts us around $116M. Moving off all three of Terry, Martin, Richards, puts us down to $94M.

The cap is projected at $142M and is usually projected low, so we could theoretically have $50M to throw at outside FAs before Bridges. $65M if he bolts. That $50M figure should be enough to bring in OG and a couple quality rotation players. I don't buy OG as more than a $25-30M guy though.

[KingCat]

Not saying we should but hypothetically if we wanted to trade Terry while he is on a hot streak, then how about something like

Heat send: Lowry, Highsmith, 2nd?
Hornets send: Terry, Bouk

Maybe Im selling Terry low but this gives us another big contract dump going to the summer with Lowry and Highsmith has shown to be a good defender with a glimpse of 3pt shooting. Heat desperately need a PG and another scorer and Terry is proving in Melo's absence that he can still be a primary PG on a team.

[NCHeels2008]

If we could get Highsmith that cheap we should run to the league office

[NCHeels2008]

Trading for Zion now is buying low and the best time to make such a move. Especially if it’s a matter of diet. It’s certainly a risk, but as I said before the draft if it wasn’t a risk then he wouldn’t be available at all. If you can add someone like that to the roster for future draft capital and not give up Melo/Miller/Mark then you absolutely do it. If it turns out bad, we still have a better team than we do now.

would LOVE to get out of the Bridges business

[JMAC3]

A team to keep in mind for a Hayward location is Memphis. They are projected to be a lux tax team next year so they might want to dump a contract and also they have struggled to find consistent play at the 3 spot.

Kennard could make sense as a guy we get back as bench scorer for us moving forward.

Piggy backing off this idea the other... adding in the fact that Memphis wants open roster spots to keep Biz when Ja comes back. What do you think about this?


Grizzlies get Hayward
Hornets get Kennard, Steven Adams plus an asset (2nd rounder or young player)

Why for Grizz: Clears roster crunch, puts them in a much more manageable cap spot next and Hayward fills a need at the 3 spot they are lacking this year.

Why for Hornets: Hornets likely aren't bringing back Hayward. Kennard is probably a guy that given Hornets cap situation would be an easy yes to PO. They eat Adams cap for now, but he would be a good locker room addition and they could look to flip him or Nick Richards in the summer and still have a solid center rotation. Konchar/Roddy/LaRavia would be a great pickup, but doubt they toss him in. I think a 2nd would be fine.

[Rich4114]

A team to keep in mind for a Hayward location is Memphis. They are projected to be a lux tax team next year so they might want to dump a contract and also they have struggled to find consistent play at the 3 spot.

Kennard could make sense as a guy we get back as bench scorer for us moving forward.

Piggy backing off this idea the other... adding in the fact that Memphis wants open roster spots to keep Biz when Ja comes back. What do you think about this?


Grizzlies get Hayward
Hornets get Kennard, Steven Adams plus an asset (2nd rounder or young player)

Why for Grizz: Clears roster crunch, puts them in a much more manageable cap spot next and Hayward fills a need at the 3 spot they are lacking this year.

Why for Hornets: Hornets likely aren't bringing back Hayward. Kennard is probably a guy that given Hornets cap situation would be an easy yes to PO. They eat Adams cap for now, but he would be a good locker room addition and they could look to flip him or Nick Richards in the summer and still have a solid center rotation. Konchar/Roddy/LaRavia would be a great pickup, but doubt they toss him in. I think a 2nd would be fine.

This is a move that works well if we're selling on this season

[JDR720]

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[JMAC3]

A team to keep in mind for a Hayward location is Memphis. They are projected to be a lux tax team next year so they might want to dump a contract and also they have struggled to find consistent play at the 3 spot.

Kennard could make sense as a guy we get back as bench scorer for us moving forward.

Piggy backing off this idea the other... adding in the fact that Memphis wants open roster spots to keep Biz when Ja comes back. What do you think about this?


Grizzlies get Hayward
Hornets get Kennard, Steven Adams plus an asset (2nd rounder or young player)

Why for Grizz: Clears roster crunch, puts them in a much more manageable cap spot next and Hayward fills a need at the 3 spot they are lacking this year.

Why for Hornets: Hornets likely aren't bringing back Hayward. Kennard is probably a guy that given Hornets cap situation would be an easy yes to PO. They eat Adams cap for now, but he would be a good locker room addition and they could look to flip him or Nick Richards in the summer and still have a solid center rotation. Konchar/Roddy/LaRavia would be a great pickup, but doubt they toss him in. I think a 2nd would be fine.

This is a move that works well if we're selling on this season

Yes and No, I think if we are serious about playing a starting lineup of Ball, terry, Miller, Miles and Mark... then Kennard off the bench is a nice weapon this year and probably next year.

[JDR720]

If we just stand pat and do nothing, it'll be ridiculous on so many levels. Probably try to re-sign Gordon and run it back again next year just to troll us.

[JMAC3]

If we just stand pat and do nothing, it'll be ridiculous on so many levels. Probably try to re-sign Gordon and run it back again next year just to troll us.

Sounds like we aren't against trading at all, just don't want to take on a lot of salary like Lavine. Which I am also against, I don't think his fit is much better than Rozier but costs 2x and would stunt some of Miller growth IMO.

[SWedd523]

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