2023 Season

wco81 · Post #321 » by **wco81** » Thu Dec 7, 2023 11:18 pm

I hope the team doesn't mentally relax after the run they've been on.

They might not approach this Seattle game like the Philly game or even the first Seattle game.

They were at their peak after trouncing the Cowboys, everyone pronouncing them the greatest, and then went to Cleveland knowing their starting QB was out and then got into a pregame scuffle with the Browns players.

We could be at a similar point, a big triumph over the Eagles and they're going to rest Armstead and maybe players could slightly let up.

But Seattle is desperate and their offense performed much better vs. the Cowboys, though their defense still struggled.

CrimsonCrew · Post #322 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Thu Dec 7, 2023 11:32 pm

I would hope they never take the Hawks for granted. Especially when the Hawks gave the Cowboys a run for it and are coming off of extra rest. We match up well with the Hawks, but that doesn't mean much once the game starts. We should have lit up the Vikings and didn't.

Pattersonca65 · Post #323 » by **Pattersonca65** » Fri Dec 8, 2023 2:36 pm

CrimsonCrew wrote:I would hope they never take the Hawks for granted. Especially when the Hawks gave the Cowboys a run for it and are coming off of extra rest. We match up well with the Hawks, but that doesn't mean much once the game starts. We should have lit up the Vikings and didn't.

You would think with the first seed in play and division title in reach they wouldnt

CharityStripe34 · Post #324 » by **CharityStripe34** » Fri Dec 8, 2023 6:43 pm

I think they'll be watching film of the Hawks/Cowboys and will come out sharp. Division title in reach. Lock that shyt up.

wco81 · Post #325 » by **wco81** » Fri Dec 8, 2023 6:56 pm

Hope so. If they approach it like Cleveland or even Minnesota ...

Samurai · Post #326 » by **Samurai** » Fri Dec 8, 2023 7:41 pm

We don't have to be at our best to beat the SeaChicks. Just don't come out completely flat and give the game away. Go about your business, do your job and we should get a win. We don't need to blow them out by 20+ for it to count as a win.

arich35 · Post #327 » by **arich35** » Sat Dec 9, 2023 3:51 am

Armstead, Dwelley, & McCloud all out
Luter, Burford, and Mitchell all doubtful

Post #328 » by **Harry Palmer** » Sat Dec 9, 2023 5:41 am

If we do, we deserve the consequences.

Samurai · Post #329 » by **Samurai** » Sun Dec 10, 2023 1:34 am

Ray-Ray McCloud goes to the IR, so he will miss at least the next 4 weeks. Not overly concerned if Bell doesn't make any big returns on punts; as long as he doesn't fumble I'll be satisfied.

But Chris Conley is the WR who is being called up from the practice squad to take McCloud's spot in the WR room. So even with an injury, our 3rd round pick Danny Gray still hasn't impressed coaches enough to fill his spot. Looks like another 3rd round swing-and-a-miss.

arich35 · Post #330 » by **arich35** » Mon Dec 11, 2023 4:25 am

Eagles lost. If we went out we get the 1 seed, something big to play for going forward.

Jikkle · Post #331 » by **Jikkle** » Mon Dec 11, 2023 5:34 am

arich35 wrote:Eagles lost. If we went out we get the 1 seed, something big to play for going forward.

Yeah the issue is the Eagles play the Hawks, Giants twice, and Cardinals so it's pretty realistic for them to sweep their remaining schedule.

We still got the Ravens and even the Rams on ours with big question marks now on who's going to be ready on defense. It didn't seem like anyone's injuries were too serious so I'm guessing everyone should be a go for the Raven's matchup but still way to early to tell.

Jikkle · Post #332 » by **Jikkle** » Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:06 am

I will say if the Eagles lose one more the #1 seed is likely ours. Dallas probably loses at least one of their last 4 as they have a tough stretch.

I can see us losing one game in the next 4 but I think it's unlikely they lose 2. Though this is a team that lost 3 in a row so losing 2 out of the last 4 isn't out of the question either.

Post #333 » by **Harry Palmer** » Mon Dec 11, 2023 11:03 am

Baltimore might beat us straight up, especially if our D is missing a bunch of players. If Ward misses time, we’re VERY vulnerable on the back end, though Wilks has raised the floor on the other guys some. Ward is not the 2nd best player on the team, or even close, but esp. with Huff already out I think it’s our 2nd most vulnerable position to lose our top player after Trent, qb being of course the exception to every rule. Maybe CMC is, but I think that’s more lack of superlatives rather than turning into a lose-you-games weakness without Trent or Ward. I wonder if they use the same defensive scheme as vs. Eagles to contain LaMar. Imo he’s ~ a better version of Hurts, so this could be the game our longstanding issue with mobile qbs comes home to roost.

CrimsonCrew · Post #334 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Mon Dec 11, 2023 5:12 pm

Even with Baltimore struggling against the Rams, they are a major threat. They're a very good team on both sides of the ball. That said, their skill players aren't great. If we can contain Lamar, we have an excellent chance of winning that one. The DBs have really stepped up lately. Thomas is playing a lot better, and even on the TD he gave up, he was in great position. That was a really tough ball to defend, and that sort of thing happens in the league. Lenoir has been playing well. Hopefully Ward gets back, but even if he doesn't, I don't think we hit the panic button. And Ji'ayir Brown has been playing very well in Huf's absence, but we are definitely paper thin at that spot.

Very good chance to seize that #1 seed, but we've got to go out and do it. And we've all got to be Hawks fans this next week as it's the only game I can see the Eagles possibly losing going forward, unless they just completely collapse.

Really wish Moody had hit that FG against the Browns....

CrimsonCrew · Post #335 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Mon Dec 11, 2023 5:15 pm

Verrett signed to PS. I wouldn't necessarily expect him to play and excel, but he adds some experienced depth at least. And a great guy to have back in the building.

wco81 · Post #336 » by **wco81** » Mon Dec 11, 2023 5:23 pm

Why is Deebo fielding KR and not getting much past the 25?

They should tell him to kneel those. I know he has to go out there because of injuries but nobody expects him to actually make returns.

CrimsonCrew · Post #337 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Mon Dec 11, 2023 5:28 pm

Somewhat amazingly, it looks like it could be shaping up to be a two-man race for the MVP between Purdy and Prescott. That's incredible. Hurts was right in the mix, but hard to see him winning it after struggling while dropping games in back-to-back weeks against the two other guys.

Purdy and Prescott have really similar stat lines. Respectively, 3553 passing yards to 3504, 70.2% completion to 69.3%. 25 TDs to 28, and 7 INTs to 6. Brock arguably separates himself a bit with 61 passes for 20+ yards (though plenty of those are YAC), and 12 of 40+ to Prescott's 52 and 4. Right now, I would say Prescott has the edge simply because of pedigree, career arc, and the fact that he plays for Dallas. But Purdy has a very legitimate chance. Prescott has the tougher schedule, with games at the Bills, at the Dolphins, and vs. the Lions. If they win all of those, it's hard to see Prescott not winning it. But if they don't, and the Niners do win out, Purdy could become the favorite.

Oh, and Tua is right there, too. He's at 3457 yards and 24 TDs, but plays his 13th game tonight - against a bad passing D in the Titans. He's also looking at a 10-3 record after tonight. The end of his season is brutal, though. He's home for three of four, which is good, because that team is markedly better at home. But after tonight, he gets the Jets, Cowboys, Ravens, and what is likely to be a desperate Bills team to close out the year. That's as tough a stretch as anyone has had this year, probably.

wco81 · Post #338 » by **wco81** » Mon Dec 11, 2023 5:59 pm

Don't really care about individual awards.

In fact those awards may lead to contracts which are bad for the team. I want the team to win, not for players to win awards.

Bosa winning Defensive Player of the Year may have led to the most bloated non QB contract in history. He would have got a big contract regardless but the award made it seem like he was the whole defense and got compensated like he is. This season he's just one of the better guys -- I'd say Warner and Greenlaw, at least as a tandem, have had more impact this season.

Purdy will get paid too when he's up for extension and he continues this level of play. But team has better chance of getting a team or cap-friendly deal if he doesn't win MVP.

In fact some would argue that CMC is what makes the offense go.

As far as player vs. team, I think Steve Young won 2 MVPs before finally getting the monkey off his back, i.e. win the SB.

CrimsonCrew · Post #339 » by **CrimsonCrew** » Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:21 pm

wco81 wrote:Don't really care about individual awards.

In fact those awards may lead to contracts which are bad for the team. I want the team to win, not for players to win awards.

Bosa winning Defensive Player of the Year may have led to the most bloated non QB contract in history. He would have got a big contract regardless but the award made it seem like he was the whole defense and got compensated like he is. This season he's just one of the better guys -- I'd say Warner and Greenlaw, at least as a tandem, have had more impact this season.

Purdy will get paid too when he's up for extension and he continues this level of play. But team has better chance of getting a team or cap-friendly deal if he doesn't win MVP.

In fact some would argue that CMC is what makes the offense go.

As far as player vs. team, I think Steve Young won 2 MVPs before finally getting the monkey off his back, i.e. win the SB.

Sure. I think it would be incredible for Purdy, and an amazing story - especially if he capped it off with a super bowl win. But I don't care about it in terms of bragging rights, and agree that it could hurt the team longterm. Purdy seems like the type who MIGHT sign a reasonable contract to allow for a stronger team around him, as Brady did for all those years, but that's a big ask, especially for a guy who will make so little for his first three seasons.

Mostly it's just awesome for him and the team that he's playing so well. I hope he wins it because if he does, it means that he's balling out and we're winning. And that's the best thing for everyone.

SK21209 · Post #340 » by **SK21209** » Mon Dec 11, 2023 6:31 pm

Still going to be tough to lock up the 1 seed with how soft the Eagles' schedule is. Cardinals are still playing hard and trying to figure out if they're keeping Murray long term. Ravens don't look as good as their metrics indicate to me, but they're a good team fighting for the 1 seed in the AFC. The Commanders are packing it in for next year but the Rams will likely have a chance to make the playoffs if they beat us in Week 18.

Would be awesome if the Eagles could lose one more game to give us a little breathing room, but it probably has to be this week against Seattle. I do think Seattle can do it but I'm not holding my breath. Dallas is going to lose to one of @Buffalo or @Miami IMO.