rarefind wrote:Parataxis wrote:rarefind wrote:There are no ethics in sports or big business.
While you can't make someone sign with you who never intended to, we now have two black eyes. One from the WC series and now this debacle. Rational thought doesn't blame a front office after this but we got played... badly. That certainly is not something to write home about.
At least we have some nice renos but too bad most people won't be able to justify the ticket cost to watch a mid baseball team. I'm worried as we are now in desperation mode and I feel like we are going to do something really dumb now to sell some tickets. Good thing we have Ross Atkins at the helm.
I really don't understand how the Jays have a 'black eye' from this. We didn't sign Ohtani - but neither did 28 other teams. And being used 'as leverage' didn't cost us anything. We're no worse off now than we would have been had Friday never happened, and Ohtani signed with the Dodgers for 600MM instead.
It's a nothingburger.
No, it isn't a nothing burger. You are coming at this from the perspective of our front office and ownership and I understand that. Share your sentiment with the average fan and they will disagree.
No, I'm coming at it from the perspective of myself, an average fan. One who goes to maybe 6-8 games a year and the occasional road trip as an excuse to see another city.
Do I wish we'd signed Ohtani? Yeah, duh.
But given that we didn't, am I glad that we tried for it? Also, yeah.
Like, you don't win them all. There's 30 teams, more FAs (including more 'top FAs') are going to sign with other teams that will sign with the Jays. That's just life.