NBA MVP Discussion Thread 2023-24 (continued)

[AleksandarN]

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Hmm coming from a two faced player who attacked Jokic in that sham interview in April.

People can change their views after being presented with new info, or in this case, just recognizing his play. He upped his scoring ability in the playoffs last year, and the year before. This isn't something new, he's just doing it in the regular season now.

I'll give credit to Embiid for that statement.

Maybe it is just that one interview then.

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Sixers obliterated the Wizards by 45 points. Oh and btw only 4 fts this game.

Come to think of it I don't know how Embiid isn't the consensus #1 for MVP right now given that he has been able to sit out 6 4th quarters because the Sixers have dominated so much with him.

I'd be curious to know how many of the other MVP candidates have sat out 4th quarters this season, and if they aren't how it gives them an opportunity to add to their stats.

The notion that he stat pads is ridiculous given what I just mentioned.

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Sixers obliterated the Wizards by 45 points.

Come to think of it I don't know how Embiid isn't the consensus #1 for MVP right now given that he has been able to sit out 6 4th quarters because the Sixers have dominated so much with him.

I'd be curious to know how many of the other MVP candidates have sat out 4th quarters this season, and if they aren't how it gives them an opportunity to add to their stats.

The notion that he stat pads is ridiculous given what I just mentioned.

I remember the nuggets being up by 20+ points with 3 minutes left and Jokic was still in. Once he got the assist for a triple double, he was subbed out. I commented on it at the time, and I got bashed for mentioning it. It is what it is.

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Sixers obliterated the Wizards by 45 points. Oh and btw only 4 fts this game.

Come to think of it I don't know how Embiid isn't the consensus #1 for MVP right now given that he has been able to sit out 6 4th quarters because the Sixers have dominated so much with him.

I'd be curious to know how many of the other MVP candidates have sat out 4th quarters this season, and if they aren't how it gives them an opportunity to add to their stats.

The notion that he stat pads is ridiculous given what I just mentioned.

Wasn’t Luka just blamed for stat padding, playing 31 min while sitting out 4th in a 50 pt win?

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Sixers obliterated the Wizards by 45 points. Oh and btw only 4 fts this game.

Come to think of it I don't know how Embiid isn't the consensus #1 for MVP right now given that he has been able to sit out 6 4th quarters because the Sixers have dominated so much with him.

I'd be curious to know how many of the other MVP candidates have sat out 4th quarters this season, and if they aren't how it gives them an opportunity to add to their stats.

The notion that he stat pads is ridiculous given what I just mentioned.

Wasn’t Luka just blamed for stat padding, playing 31 min while sitting out 4th in a 50 pt win?

It wasn't me... This board has some weird responses about any player not named Jokic. There is one standard for him, with a myriad of excuses, and for everyone else it's always very cut and dry. Unless it is painfully obvious like his last two games, Jokic is essentially beyond reproach.

[AleksandarN]

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Sixers obliterated the Wizards by 45 points.

Come to think of it I don't know how Embiid isn't the consensus #1 for MVP right now given that he has been able to sit out 6 4th quarters because the Sixers have dominated so much with him.

I'd be curious to know how many of the other MVP candidates have sat out 4th quarters this season, and if they aren't how it gives them an opportunity to add to their stats.

The notion that he stat pads is ridiculous given what I just mentioned.

I remember the nuggets being up by 20+ points with 3 minutes left and Jokic was still in. Once he got the assist for a triple double, he was subbed out. I commented on it at the time, and I got bashed for mentioning it. It is what it is.

What game was that? I looked at all of his triple doubles and non of them apply

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Sixers obliterated the Wizards by 45 points. Oh and btw only 4 fts this game.

Come to think of it I don't know how Embiid isn't the consensus #1 for MVP right now given that he has been able to sit out 6 4th quarters because the Sixers have dominated so much with him.

I'd be curious to know how many of the other MVP candidates have sat out 4th quarters this season, and if they aren't how it gives them an opportunity to add to their stats.

The notion that he stat pads is ridiculous given what I just mentioned.

Wasn’t Luka just blamed for stat padding, playing 31 min while sitting out 4th in a 50 pt win?

It wasn't me... This board has some weird responses about any player not named Jokic. There is one standard for him, with a myriad of excuses, and for everyone else it's always very cut and dry. Unless it is painfully obvious like his last two games, Jokic is essentially beyond reproach.

If you don't know who said that why say it was a Nuggets fan?

[eyeatoma]

Wasn’t Luka just blamed for stat padding, playing 31 min while sitting out 4th in a 50 pt win?

It wasn't me... This board has some weird responses about any player not named Jokic. There is one standard for him, with a myriad of excuses, and for everyone else it's always very cut and dry. Unless it is painfully obvious like his last two games, Jokic is essentially beyond reproach.

If you don't know who said that why say it was a Nuggets fan?

When did I say it was a Nuggets fan?

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[dygaction]

It wasn't me... This board has some weird responses about any player not named Jokic. There is one standard for him, with a myriad of excuses, and for everyone else it's always very cut and dry. Unless it is painfully obvious like his last two games, Jokic is essentially beyond reproach.

If you don't know who said that why say it was a Nuggets fan?

When did I say it was a Nuggets fan?

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"Re: NBA MVP Discussion Thread 2023-24
Post#1604 » by LordCovington33 » Wed Dec 6, 2023 11:05 pm
By the way, that was some pathetic stat padding by the Mavericks tonight. The team is up big (50 points in the end), and Doncic still played 32 minutes."

By the end of 3rd, 76ers were up by 45;
By the end of 3rd, Mavs were up by 35; The game before, Dec 2nd, Mavs just had a 30:0 4th quarter run, so maybe Kidd wanted to make sure it did not happen to them.

32min is not a lot more than 30min, which was how many minutes Embiid played.

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Embiid is BY FAR the front runner for MVP….the Sixers are now 15-4 when Embiid plays. And currently Embiid is having one of the most dominant regular seasons the league has seen.

[AleksandarN]

It wasn't me... This board has some weird responses about any player not named Jokic. There is one standard for him, with a myriad of excuses, and for everyone else it's always very cut and dry. Unless it is painfully obvious like his last two games, Jokic is essentially beyond reproach.

If you don't know who said that why say it was a Nuggets fan?

When did I say it was a Nuggets fan?

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You tried to imply it was and blame it on a nuggets fan. I didn’t say you were. And it was in fact a Philly fan. Your own

[RB34]

Embiid and the Sixers have a great chance to run it up. They play the Pistons twice and then the Bulls, I imagine they win those games via blowouts. They then play the Wolves.

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"Re: NBA MVP Discussion Thread 2023-24
Post#1604 » by LordCovington33 » Wed Dec 6, 2023 11:05 pm
By the way, that was some pathetic stat padding by the Mavericks tonight. The team is up big (50 points in the end), and Doncic still played 32 minutes."

By the end of 3rd, 76ers were up by 45;
By the end of 3rd, Mavs were up by 35; The game before, Dec 2nd, Mavs just had a 30:0 4th quarter run, so maybe Kidd wanted to make sure it did not happen to them.

32min is not a lot more than 30min, which was how many minutes Embiid played.

For reference Sixers in the Embiid era have been notorious for giving up huge leads. Hence playing him for the 3rd.

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[AleksandarN]

Embiid and the Sixers have a great chance to run it up. They play the Pistons twice and then the Bulls, I imagine they win those games via blowouts. They then play the Wolves.

I would love the Nuggets to blow out teams. Doesn’t seem to happen. Always careless and blow big leads. annoying

[Woodsanity]

I hope Embiid wins a 2nd MVP actually.
The inevitable collapse in the playoffs afterwards will be glorious.

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"Re: NBA MVP Discussion Thread 2023-24
Post#1604 » by LordCovington33 » Wed Dec 6, 2023 11:05 pm
By the way, that was some pathetic stat padding by the Mavericks tonight. The team is up big (50 points in the end), and Doncic still played 32 minutes."

By the end of 3rd, 76ers were up by 45;
By the end of 3rd, Mavs were up by 35; The game before, Dec 2nd, Mavs just had a 30:0 4th quarter run, so maybe Kidd wanted to make sure it did not happen to them.

32min is not a lot more than 30min, which was how many minutes Embiid played.

For reference Sixers in the Embiid era have been notorious for giving up huge leads. Hence playing him for the 3rd.

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I have not problem with anyone stat padding or playing conservative, just seeing enough of the double standards.

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You tried to imply it was and blame it on a nuggets fan. I didn’t say you were. And it was in fact a Philly fan. Your own

I said Jokic fans, I did not say Nuggets fan. You can't put words in my mouth. There are plenty of non Nuggets fans who are Jokic fans. Yes it was a sixers fan who said that about Doncic. Doesnt' change the fact that plenty of Jokic fans say that Embiid takes games off, and then choose to play minnows to pad his stats.

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"Re: NBA MVP Discussion Thread 2023-24
Post#1604 » by LordCovington33 » Wed Dec 6, 2023 11:05 pm
By the way, that was some pathetic stat padding by the Mavericks tonight. The team is up big (50 points in the end), and Doncic still played 32 minutes."

By the end of 3rd, 76ers were up by 45;
By the end of 3rd, Mavs were up by 35; The game before, Dec 2nd, Mavs just had a 30:0 4th quarter run, so maybe Kidd wanted to make sure it did not happen to them.

32min is not a lot more than 30min, which was how many minutes Embiid played.

I am not a fan of ANY franchise player staying out longer than they should. Embiid should have been subbed out once it hit 30. The sixers have blown massive leads in the past, including a huge one last year against the Lakers, but keeping your franchise players healthy is the number one priority. It’s a marathon, not a sprint. The same thing applies to any franchise player, like I said. Sub them the hell out of there in the third quarter once it hits 30.

Embiid got injured against Toronto in a playoff series when the sixers were leading comfortably. A stupid Doc Rivers coaching moment. It resulted in him missing time in the next round.

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SGA is right in the conversation, top 3 imo

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"Re: NBA MVP Discussion Thread 2023-24
Post#1604 » by LordCovington33 » Wed Dec 6, 2023 11:05 pm
By the way, that was some pathetic stat padding by the Mavericks tonight. The team is up big (50 points in the end), and Doncic still played 32 minutes."

By the end of 3rd, 76ers were up by 45;
By the end of 3rd, Mavs were up by 35; The game before, Dec 2nd, Mavs just had a 30:0 4th quarter run, so maybe Kidd wanted to make sure it did not happen to them.

32min is not a lot more than 30min, which was how many minutes Embiid played.

For reference Sixers in the Embiid era have been notorious for giving up huge leads. Hence playing him for the 3rd.

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We were awful at keeping leads during the Doc Rivers era. We have got to have faith in Nurse though. If our lead is 25 or 30 at any point in the second half of the third quarter, get him out of there and just have him ready just in case. He needs as much rest as possible. Let him rest and let our bench get some playing time with our other starters.