ImageImageImage

76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1

Moderators: HartfordWhalers, BullyKing, Sixerscan, sixers hoops, Foshan

User avatar
ProcessDoctor
RealGM
Posts: 11,728
And1: 6,467
Joined: Jul 02, 2006
   

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1061 » by ProcessDoctor » Sun Dec 10, 2023 5:40 pm

Sixerscan wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:If we want to use the assets by the deadline and get TWO forwards...


PHI out: Harris, Korkmaz, Martin, 2026 OKC 1st, 2028 LAC 1st, 2029 PHI 1st, two 2nds
PHI in: Anunoby, Grant

POR out: Grant, Brogdon
POR in: Harris, Korkmaz, Martin, 2026 OKC 1st, two 2nds via PHI

TOR out: Anunoby
TOR in: Brogdon, 2028 LAC 1st, 2029 PHI 1st


Maxey/Beverley/Springer
Oubre/Melton/Smith
Anunoby/Batum/House
Grant/Covington/Morris
Embiid/Reed/Bamba


Then next year anyone not named Maxey, Springer, Anunoby, Grant, Reed, or Embiid would have to return on a team-friendly deal, the MLE, or a vet min.

Think you’d need the new arena built for them to pay basically 4 maxes for years into the future like that.


Lol yea you'd be committing to those 4 dudes over the next 4 years. Thankfully Grant isn't a max and Maxey's max is only 25% of the cap. Surround them with the MLE, vet mins, and rookie contracts.

We'd be paying the tax but could realistically avoid the apron. Kinda hate the Bball Paul deal now lol. Dude is getting benched and is no more productive than any typical vet min backup C.
2025-2026 Philadelphia 76ers:

Maxey/McCain/Lowry
Edgecombe/Grimes/Gordon
George/Oubre/Edwards
Watford/Barlow/Walker
Embiid/Drummond/Bona/Broome
User avatar
76ciology
RealGM
Posts: 66,482
And1: 27,350
Joined: Jun 06, 2002

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1062 » by 76ciology » Sun Dec 10, 2023 6:00 pm

Wizards, pistons, pistons, hornets and bulls.

Not a good team until dec 21 against the Wolves.

Damn
There’s never been a time in history when we look back and say that the people who were censoring free speech were the good guys.
User avatar
Stanford
Forum Mod
Forum Mod
Posts: 53,718
And1: 18,975
Joined: Feb 07, 2005
Location: Parts Unknown
   

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1063 » by Stanford » Sun Dec 10, 2023 6:55 pm

I think the Tobias stuff is less about spacing than it is about how few threes the team attempts. The Celtics kill us on volume. And 3 is more than 2.
M2J
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,893
And1: 2,035
Joined: Sep 04, 2012

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1064 » by M2J » Sun Dec 10, 2023 6:58 pm

Stanford wrote:I think the Tobias stuff is less about spacing than it is about how few threes the team attempts. The Celtics kill us on volume. And 3 is more than 2.



Exactly and if he's going to have a low energy offensive game to claim he's a great defender against Tatum ...at least catch and shoot 3-5 jumpers a game.
eyeatoma
RealGM
Posts: 29,964
And1: 13,211
Joined: Feb 25, 2005
     

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1065 » by eyeatoma » Sun Dec 10, 2023 9:19 pm

Read on Twitter


Good news...
User avatar
mjkvol
Head Coach
Posts: 6,839
And1: 6,510
Joined: Apr 13, 2019

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1066 » by mjkvol » Sun Dec 10, 2023 9:46 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
Read on Twitter


Good news...


I'd much rather he sits unless he's 100%. Loooooong season.
"Most people do not really want freedom, because freedom involves responsibility, and most people are frightened of responsibility." - Sigmund Freud
eyeatoma
RealGM
Posts: 29,964
And1: 13,211
Joined: Feb 25, 2005
     

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1067 » by eyeatoma » Sun Dec 10, 2023 9:55 pm

mjkvol wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
Read on Twitter


Good news...


I'd much rather he sits unless he's 100%. Loooooong season.



I agree, this is why I shouldn't have him on my fantasy team lol. I'm always torn in these situations.
User avatar
76ciology
RealGM
Posts: 66,482
And1: 27,350
Joined: Jun 06, 2002

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1068 » by 76ciology » Mon Dec 11, 2023 5:15 am

Stanford wrote:I think the Tobias stuff is less about spacing than it is about how few threes the team attempts. The Celtics kill us on volume. And 3 is more than 2.


The Celtics can do this because they can penetrate the paint more effectively, forcing us to provide help defense. Unlike us, they have multiple players who can drive, draw defenders, and finish.

When Tobias Harris, Nicolas Batum, Kelly Oubre, Robert Covington, or De'Anthony Melton attacking the paint, teams wouldn't feel compelled to send extra help. This is why our half-court offense and open three-pointers struggle without Joel Embiid, as we often rely on the pick-and-pop with Covington or Marcus Morris.

Examining our players:
- Maxey has a weak left side.
- Melton seems to struggle as a finisher.
- Tobias faces challenges finishing over defenders due to size and athleticism.
- Covington lacks dribbling skills.
- Batum is focused on preserving his knee for retirement in Paris next season.

Our primary attacking strategy revolves around Embiid drawing defenders and creating opportunities for backdoor cuts or spot-up shooters. While effective in the regular season, this approach becomes more challenging in the playoffs against teams with tighter defenses, greater length, leading to turnovers, Embiid fatigue, and opponents becoming familiar with our actions—especially in a seven-game series.

So last year, Celts figured it out and just send time lord in the paint. Biid can’t drop it off to Tucker because Tucker is not a threat inside the paint. Which is not the same situation if they have to do it against the Nuggets because they have Aaron Gordon.
There’s never been a time in history when we look back and say that the people who were censoring free speech were the good guys.
Bum Adebayo
General Manager
Posts: 7,711
And1: 4,075
Joined: Apr 28, 2016

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1069 » by Bum Adebayo » Mon Dec 11, 2023 3:34 pm

None of our players have elite ball handling, that's the main thing, we won't win jack **** without that.
Negrodamus
RealGM
Posts: 26,719
And1: 17,348
Joined: Aug 05, 2004

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1070 » by Negrodamus » Mon Dec 11, 2023 7:49 pm

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/273929/Lakers-Sixers-Expected-To-Be-Trade-Suitors-For-Zach-LaVine

I'd rather have DLO than LaVine if I'm the Lakers. In fact, I'd help them facilitate this trade if I'm the Sixers to get DLO, who is having a career year now that he understands his role is to not be the superstar.
LeonJordanJr24
Starter
Posts: 2,290
And1: 771
Joined: Jul 18, 2013

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1071 » by LeonJordanJr24 » Mon Dec 11, 2023 8:41 pm

Negrodamus wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/273929/Lakers-Sixers-Expected-To-Be-Trade-Suitors-For-Zach-LaVine

I'd rather have DLO than LaVine if I'm the Lakers. In fact, I'd help them facilitate this trade if I'm the Sixers to get DLO, who is having a career year now that he understands his role is to not be the superstar.



Dlo is slow and can't defend lol I rather bring Simmons back and let him Secondary ball handle, rebound and defend. Also, he is another guy who can hand and play center mins.
Negrodamus
RealGM
Posts: 26,719
And1: 17,348
Joined: Aug 05, 2004

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1072 » by Negrodamus » Mon Dec 11, 2023 9:40 pm

LeonJordanJr24 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/273929/Lakers-Sixers-Expected-To-Be-Trade-Suitors-For-Zach-LaVine

I'd rather have DLO than LaVine if I'm the Lakers. In fact, I'd help them facilitate this trade if I'm the Sixers to get DLO, who is having a career year now that he understands his role is to not be the superstar.



Dlo is slow and can't defend lol I rather bring Simmons back and let him Secondary ball handle, rebound and defend. Also, he is another guy who can hand and play center mins.


None of this is true other than DLO being a bad defender. Simmons is a trash ball handler (good for a C). He has a chronic back injury that will prevent him from the one elite thing he had: longevity and relentless stamina. He also doesn't play center and in the times he found himself in that position, he was bad at it. On top of all that, Simmons held the team hostage for a year suggesting he won't happily return to Philadelphia; so not even worth discussing.

DLO being a very good shooter and an elite passer makes him infinitely more valuable than Simmons.
the_process
RealGM
Posts: 29,492
And1: 10,487
Joined: May 01, 2010

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1073 » by the_process » Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:19 pm

Negrodamus wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/273929/Lakers-Sixers-Expected-To-Be-Trade-Suitors-For-Zach-LaVine

I'd rather have DLO than LaVine if I'm the Lakers. In fact, I'd help them facilitate this trade if I'm the Sixers to get DLO, who is having a career year now that he understands his role is to not be the superstar.


I assume this is Brand doing Klutch a favor. I can't believe they are vey interested unless it's super cheap (read: Tobias straight up).
M2J
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,893
And1: 2,035
Joined: Sep 04, 2012

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1074 » by M2J » Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:46 pm

the_process wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/273929/Lakers-Sixers-Expected-To-Be-Trade-Suitors-For-Zach-LaVine

I'd rather have DLO than LaVine if I'm the Lakers. In fact, I'd help them facilitate this trade if I'm the Sixers to get DLO, who is having a career year now that he understands his role is to not be the superstar.


I assume this is Brand doing Klutch a favor. I can't believe they are vey interested unless it's super cheap (read: Tobias straight up).


It's going to be cheap whether its Tobias or filler like Morris/etc. Maybe some 2nd rounders and/or pick swaps. They're not going to get a good young asset for him or really good picks.

The Lakers and Sixers are both concerned about the same thing, making this investment without the idea that Zach is going to buy into being a 3rd option and focusing on playing better defense. Kinda similar transition to what needed to occur with Tobias when Harden was acquired by Philly. I feel he's already proven he can do that to some degree, and as long as he stays healthy, then he's going to help either team become legit.

The Heat feel that keeping him and Herro would give them 2 similar players that they need to help defensively, and both are on max deals....so they want to see what Herro does this season before showing interest.
User avatar
76ciology
RealGM
Posts: 66,482
And1: 27,350
Joined: Jun 06, 2002

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1075 » by 76ciology » Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:47 am

Its gonna be a 3 way.

Bulls get Tobi. Raps get Lavine. Sixers get Siakam.

Everything will then make sense.

..for me :lol:
There’s never been a time in history when we look back and say that the people who were censoring free speech were the good guys.
Sportfan73
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,920
And1: 1,320
Joined: Jun 18, 2015
   

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1076 » by Sportfan73 » Tue Dec 12, 2023 5:00 am

the_process wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/273929/Lakers-Sixers-Expected-To-Be-Trade-Suitors-For-Zach-LaVine

I'd rather have DLO than LaVine if I'm the Lakers. In fact, I'd help them facilitate this trade if I'm the Sixers to get DLO, who is having a career year now that he understands his role is to not be the superstar.


I assume this is Brand doing Klutch a favor. I can't believe they are vey interested unless it's super cheap (read: Tobias straight up).

Actually makes more sense if it’s the lakers doing Klutch a favor. They’d be trading a bunch of guys who play real minutes and also who are on 3 year contracts which is the opposite of what Chicago wants. And only have 1 first round pick to include on top of that. I think it might be time to face the fact that we are in fact the only team interested in Lavine
M2J
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,893
And1: 2,035
Joined: Sep 04, 2012

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1077 » by M2J » Tue Dec 12, 2023 8:35 am

Sportfan73 wrote:
the_process wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/273929/Lakers-Sixers-Expected-To-Be-Trade-Suitors-For-Zach-LaVine

I'd rather have DLO than LaVine if I'm the Lakers. In fact, I'd help them facilitate this trade if I'm the Sixers to get DLO, who is having a career year now that he understands his role is to not be the superstar.


I assume this is Brand doing Klutch a favor. I can't believe they are vey interested unless it's super cheap (read: Tobias straight up).

Actually makes more sense if it’s the lakers doing Klutch a favor. They’d be trading a bunch of guys who play real minutes and also who are on 3 year contracts which is the opposite of what Chicago wants. And only have 1 first round pick to include on top of that. I think it might be time to face the fact that we are in fact the only team interested in Lavine


I'd say one thing in Lakers favor vs Sixers from the bulls perspective is they'd actually trade players they will use and could maybe eventually flip for more like Rui or Austin maybe.
elchengue20
Starter
Posts: 2,236
And1: 1,917
Joined: Aug 17, 2013

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1078 » by elchengue20 » Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:02 am

No way Lakers trade Austin for Lavine.
User avatar
76ciology
RealGM
Posts: 66,482
And1: 27,350
Joined: Jun 06, 2002

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1079 » by 76ciology » Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:53 am

I wanna focus on Zach Lavine and be open in adding him to our team because i dont want to die of heart attack if that ever happens.

How does Zach Lavine fit on our team?
How’s the rotation gonna be like?
How’s the offense and defense gonna be like?

I find that Lavine and Maxey backcourt will be similar to Donovan Mitchell&Garland or maybe.. Dame&CJ? In both cases, defense was the issue. Cavs solved this by playing double big, which is the only solution I see. And how are we going to get Embiid usage?
There’s never been a time in history when we look back and say that the people who were censoring free speech were the good guys.
eyeatoma
RealGM
Posts: 29,964
And1: 13,211
Joined: Feb 25, 2005
     

Re: 76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1 

Post#1080 » by eyeatoma » Tue Dec 12, 2023 12:30 pm

76ciology wrote:I wanna focus on Zach Lavine and be open in adding him to our team because i dont want to die of heart attack if that ever happens.

How does Zach Lavine fit on our team?
How’s the rotation gonna be like?
How’s the offense and defense gonna be like?

I find that Lavine and Maxey backcourt will be similar to Donovan Mitchell&Garland or maybe.. Dame&CJ? In both cases, defense was the issue. Cavs solved this by playing double big, which is the only solution I see. And how are we going to get Embiid usage?



He doesn't.

It'll be worst than MItchella and Garland. Mitchell can defend, and had the rep of a great defender coming out of college. Garland can't. Maxey is a sieve and so is LaVine.

Worse Lavine will take touches from Maxey who is a more talented scorer than LaVine.

Offense will look pretty good, but I see more of Maxey deferring when he shouldn't and it being the LaVine show.

Defense will probably be worse.

On top of that LaVine is just as injury prone as Jo. Don't want too injury prone stars on your team, see the Clippers as a potential outcome.

Return to Philadelphia 76ers