Spates wrote:Scoot McGroot wrote:Spates wrote:
Also, PS and OG are pending free agents that Toronto can't afford to lose for nothing.
AGREED! But also, neither can Indiana. Thanks for coming around to what we’ve been saying.
But seriously, Indy cannot afford to pay market value for OG or Siakam and see the risk theater they leave, either. Nor can we afford to have to max out OG just to beat other offers on the market. And not 100% sure we want to max out Siakam as he enters his mid 30’s, especially after paying the full trade cost to acquire him. It essentially leaves Indy with just Haliburton and OG/Siakam making 60-65% of the salary cap, and no picks or youth to fill holes around them. It’s a dangerous spot to be in.
I really don't think OG would leave. He's going for 4 years 125-135. I don't think the same could said for Pascal, I wouldn't want a trade for him if I were a Pacers fan.
OG's college career was in Indiana and there have been some indications that he'd be interested in returning. Interactions that various Raptors pundits noticed last season. It's just speculation but I have this gut feeling there's legitimacy to it. I'm a random person online, I know, but if OG isn't a Raptor next year I deeply think he'll be a Pacer.
I have minimal interest in Mathurin. He's not the player I'd want dominating the ball on a rebuilding team. I'd be wary of giving him that sort of opportunity. He's a better fit alongside a legitimate starting PG. I'm not aquatinted with Walker but I'd be satisfied with Walker, Sheppard, and a first for an expiring OG. I think Nembhard adds more value to the Pacers over the next 4 years than he would to a rebuilding team. As a basis, non-contributors would be traded for an impact wing and your developmental pipeline isn't depleted.
See, we don’t know that he won’t leave. We just say “he played at IU, and he’d fit there roster wise, why would he leave?” But we forget that Victor Oladipo played at IU, was given the keys to the team, and even before his injury, was asking teams to trade for him and that he was coming to play with them. He wasn’t saying “this is my city”, he was saying “this is my s***”.
I think a lot of Raptors fans are seeing the inherent risks of losing a guy like OG for nothing, recognize that pending unrestricted free agency is a risk, and then ignoring all those things in hopes that OG’s college market would pay full price in trade and ignore all those risks as well. And yet Indiana is historically cautious and values team control over almost anything else.
But I’m sure you’d be satisfied with Walker, Sheppard, and a first for OG. That’s an insane valuation for a half season rental and the requirement to be willing to max OG to keep him. There’s a lot of teams that can clears max cap space this summer. And not a lot of top players on the market. If OG is willing to leave his market, he could easily get a max.