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Who is leading the race for MVP? (players listed in alphabetical order)

Giannis Antetokounmpo
50
17%
Luka Doncic
45
15%
Kevin Durant
1
0%
Anthony Edwards
3
1%
Joel Embiid
61
21%
Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
41
14%
Tyrese Haliburton
8
3%
Nikola Jokic
64
22%
Jayson Tatum
7
2%
Other (Kawhi, Curry, Booker, Fox, Gobert, LeBron, AD, Etc.)
11
4%
 
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Post#201 » by Wolfgang630 » Tue Dec 12, 2023 10:17 pm

Yeah JJ that’s how it works. He can’t get past the second round so it will be brought up. For as much crap Harden gets he still make it to the WCF leading a team
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Post#202 » by eyeatoma » Tue Dec 12, 2023 10:23 pm

Wolfgang630 wrote:Yeah JJ that’s how it works. He can’t get past the second round so it will be brought up. For as much crap Harden gets he still make it to the WCF leading a team
HE WAS INJURED... Why is it that people on here conveniently ignore that?

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Post#203 » by Wolfgang630 » Tue Dec 12, 2023 10:48 pm

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Wolfgang630 wrote:Yeah JJ that’s how it works. He can’t get past the second round so it will be brought up. For as much crap Harden gets he still make it to the WCF leading a team
HE WAS INJURED...

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Yet the games he played great in while injured nothing was said. But once he plays like garbage in a game 7 the “injury” is brought up
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Post#204 » by Wolfgang630 » Tue Dec 12, 2023 10:56 pm

Tell me about Kobe fking Bryant’s injuries he dealt with especially in his fingers. Jimmy Butler had a bad ankle and made it all the way to the NBA Finals. Joker plays with a bad wrist on and off. Allen Iverson dealt with tons of injuries. Why is it Embiid we have to keep hearing about injuries.
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Post#205 » by eyeatoma » Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:06 pm

Wolfgang630 wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:
Wolfgang630 wrote:Yeah JJ that’s how it works. He can’t get past the second round so it will be brought up. For as much crap Harden gets he still make it to the WCF leading a team
HE WAS INJURED...

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Yet the games he played great in while injured nothing was said. But once he plays like garbage in a game 7 the “injury” is brought up
That's how injuries work. You're inconsistent.

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Post#206 » by eyeatoma » Tue Dec 12, 2023 11:08 pm

Wolfgang630 wrote:Tell me about Kobe fking Bryant’s injuries he dealt with especially in his fingers. Jimmy Butler had a bad ankle and made it all the way to the NBA Finals. Joker plays with a bad wrist on and off. Allen Iverson dealt with tons of injuries. Why is it Embiid we have to keep hearing about injuries.
Bad ankle and torn meniscus, pcl/lcl and a broken face are absolutely different.

Allen Iverson was a warrior. No one compares, maybe Kobe.

Jimmy didn't tear anything or break anything. There are levels here that you don't want to acknowledge because it's convenient for your argument.

You seriously comparing a bad wrist to a broken face, bruh...

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Post#207 » by Kurtz » Wed Dec 13, 2023 2:00 am

eyeatoma wrote:You seriously comparing a bad wrist to a broken face, bruh...

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Post#208 » by Hussien Fatal » Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:03 am

Jokic ejected tonight early, definitely not gonna help his numbers nor mvp case.
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Post#209 » by eyeatoma » Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:07 am

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eyeatoma wrote:You seriously comparing a bad wrist to a broken face, bruh...

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Which one do you think is worse for a basketball player?


I know what you're trying to say, but if you can barely see with a mask on, and have a concussion (Embiid did when he played Miami) I'd say that's just as bad or worse.

Which do you think is more necessary as a human being? Your wrist being hurt, or your face on fire from a broken orbital bone?
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Post#210 » by eyeatoma » Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:09 am

Hussien Fatal wrote:Jokic ejected tonight early, definitely no gonna help his numbers nor mvp case.



Jokic's plus 97 and CRAPTOR going to take a huge hit unfortunately. I will say, that was a ridiculous call. Silver needs to let an independent body investigate these clowns.
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Post#211 » by LordCovington33 » Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:14 am

timO wrote:SGA
embid
joker
giannis
Hali
Doncic
Tatum
labron
KD
Fox

What a bunch of amazing players. Truly an international game.
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Post#212 » by Hussien Fatal » Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:17 am

eyeatoma wrote:
Hussien Fatal wrote:Jokic ejected tonight early, definitely no gonna help his numbers nor mvp case.



Jokic's plus 97 and CRAPTOR going to take a huge hit unfortunately. I will say, that was a ridiculous call. Silver needs to let an independent body investigate these clowns.



I agree that was a soft ejection, but it sorta seems like Jokic is just having a rough stretch currently. He needs to find a way to get out of it soon if he’s gonna win mvp. Embiid has to be the favorite at the moment he has a 79% win percentage at 15-4 and not to mention he’s putting up ATG numbers.
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Post#214 » by LordCovington33 » Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:22 am

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eyeatoma wrote:You seriously comparing a bad wrist to a broken face, bruh...

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Which one do you think is worse for a basketball player?


I know what you're trying to say, but if you can barely see with a mask on, and have a concussion (Embiid did when he played Miami) I'd say that's just as bad or worse.

Which do you think is more necessary as a human being? Your wrist being hurt, or your face on fire from a broken orbital bone?


It depends mate, and it also depends on pain tolerance. Some players can ride the pain better than others (eg masked Jaylen Brown), Embiid unfortunately is not that guy.

Let’s see how it all plays out now that the sixers have a better coach. Doc was a mess, and Brett Brown was one dimensional and became so predictable during a 7-game series.
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Post#215 » by LordCovington33 » Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:23 am

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Post#216 » by Hussien Fatal » Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:23 am

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He's playing incredible ball - if he can keep this up for an 82 game season, I'd have no issues giving him the MVP. It would be a far more deserving one than last year. He won't get the "Derrick Rose MVP" talk anymore.


Is he better than last year? Yes. Is he closer to being the rightful MVP than he was last year? Yes. Has he been better than Jokic or SGA so far? I'd say unequivocally no. He's at best a push in box stats and he hasn't shown anywhere near the same impact plus he's missed more time.


Did you just say Embiid hasn’t shown the same impact as Jokic or SGA? Embiid currently has a 79% win percentage in games played this season. His numbers are even more impressive than SGA and JOKIC. Embiid in December is averaging….
41ppg 12.3rpg and 6apg neither Jokic or SGA are currently putting up numbers like that.

He’s missed only 3 games and you say it like hes missed way more games than those guys. And you also fail to mention Embiid has participated in every single Sixers win (15) this season while his team is 0-3 without him.
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Post#217 » by dygaction » Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:25 am

Nikola's stock is sinking for ppg lovers with two early rejections this season.
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Post#218 » by Hussien Fatal » Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:27 am

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Which one do you think is worse for a basketball player?


I know what you're trying to say, but if you can barely see with a mask on, and have a concussion (Embiid did when he played Miami) I'd say that's just as bad or worse.

Which do you think is more necessary as a human being? Your wrist being hurt, or your face on fire from a broken orbital bone?


It depends mate, and it also depends on pain tolerance. Some players can ride the pain better than others (eg masked Jaylen Brown), Embiid unfortunately is not that guy.

Let’s see how it all plays out now that the sixers have a better coach. Doc was a mess, and Brett Brown was one dimensional and became so predictable during a 7-game series.


I agree with the statement that Embiid is not that guy with a mask, he’s worn it twice and struggled badly both times. But if he’s healthy come playoff time I expect him to play like the MVP player he is.
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Post#219 » by Mavrelous » Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:27 am

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I don't live in the US (or Europe when he was there), all on TV...
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Post#220 » by MavsDirk41 » Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:28 am

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Luka, Giannis, Embiid, and Joker are in a tier of their own right now.

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